Please reconsider dropping content additions after the last BC is released in Nov.

I think it's extremely disappointing to hear you will completely stop additions to the game after the 3 part addon is complete. Not only do I think you are making a mistake in that regard, but you are making a mistake by announcing it so far in advance. You have essentially made the entire community feel like there is almost no point in playing the game anymore. We feel like we will be abandoned.

You don't have to go all out with updates after November, the kinds of changes/updates we've been getting are more than enough even if you toned down the frequency and volume.

So I ask that you reconsider, and at least allow for additional job adjustments (additions and changes) in the future if needed, and completion/tuning of battle content/systems that are not quite finished yet.

Here's a snippet from Announcing the Vana'diel Project:

Additionally, service for the PlayStation® 2 and Xbox 360® versions will end on or around March 2016, and we will focus our efforts on the Windows® version. Feedback posted on the forums and obtained through other avenues will inform quality of life improvements and balance adjustments, so do not hesitate to tell us your thoughts and opinions.

So it would indeed seem like there will still be changes done, just not in major scale... not until they change their minds, that is. ^^;

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I'm sure if they manage to retain a large enough player base in spite of this announcement, and we are vocal about getting another expansion, they will look into development of one. If we refuse to let the game die, they have incentive to keep doing things with it.

Why is change so hard to accept? There is soo much to do in that game...I mean..it took me almost 4 years to complete all the story lines. I've enjoyed my time with FFXI. I play on Windows, so I'll still be playing...even to the end hopefully. There are still others out there that will still want to play, so I'll play with them. You can't expect them to keep tossing out new content over and over when they want to move on...whether its better or worse. Thank you SE for the wonderful memories! Thank you for creating a virtual world! Thank you for your time!

Anything new in the game after the last major story will probably be contigent on any gains that come from the mobile version. If they get more out of it than they expected, they might announce some new content.

In all fairness, FFXI has become a ridiculously huge game. I'd easily need another year or so after content updates ended to say I've played and beaten every individual thing in the game.

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Why is change so hard to accept? There is soo much to do in that game...I mean..it took me almost 4 years to complete all the story lines. I've enjoyed my time with FFXI. I play on Windows, so I'll still be playing...even to the end hopefully. There are still others out there that will still want to play, so I'll play with them. You can't expect them to keep tossing out new content over and over when they want to move on...whether its better or worse. Thank you SE for the wonderful memories! Thank you for creating a virtual world! Thank you for your time!

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I'm not saying they have to constantly add new content. I'm saying don't shut the door on QoL updates and needed job improvements.

Did they even finish monstrosity? That is a whole other side to the game that would be viable if they did a tiny bit more with it.

Also I hope they finish up Job points. It seems like an interesting system but I think there needs to be another 100 point tier passive or two (At 400, or even 500 JP, add ACC and MACC job point categories if possible).

I know the game is huge but at the same time it's finite (and I've done a lot of it). But another part of what made me come back frequently was the monthly updates even if it was just job tweaks.

I would be really happy with new content 2-3 times a year (on the size of what we get currently in a monthly update). I wish SE would consider something like that instead of abandoning FFXI updates after November 2015 (which is what it sounds like now).

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I would be really happy with new content 2-3 times a year (on the size of what we get currently in a monthly update). I wish SE would consider something like that instead of abandoning FFXI updates after November 2015 (which is what it sounds like now).

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I agree with this, seems like SE are pooling all of there resources into a mobile game that might not even take off and if it doesn't it then may be too late to save ffxi if they stop proper content updates completely.

If new expansions and add-ons stop, will old abandoned content at least be finished and released as was previously announced? Moblin Maze Mongers could use some high level content, as well as Pankration, Monstrosity, the Colliseum from ToAU, and a whole bunch of other events that were just left hanging after a while.

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Why is change so hard to accept? There is soo much to do in that game...I mean..it took me almost 4 years to complete all the story lines. I've enjoyed my time with FFXI. I play on Windows, so I'll still be playing...even to the end hopefully. There are still others out there that will still want to play, so I'll play with them. You can't expect them to keep tossing out new content over and over when they want to move on...whether its better or worse. Thank you SE for the wonderful memories! Thank you for creating a virtual world! Thank you for your time!

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I applaud you, Sir.

You really said what I have been thinking, entirely. Vanadiel has given me over a decade of fun, friendship, excitement and joy. Nothing else in my life has ever come close to that, not videogames or anything. Even though I pay subs for the game, I am still in SE's debt because they gave me a decade of unforgettable memories, something money can not buy, and certainly not the tiny subs they asked of me.

And so I will be battling monsters in Vanadiel, going fishing, petting my Mog Garden sheep, and so on, for as long as the game is available online, and it doesn't matter to me that there are no more expansions 2016+ because it is still Vanadiel and still the realm of wonder where all my fondest memories dwell.

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Anything new in the game after the last major story will probably be contigent on any gains that come from the mobile version. If they get more out of it than they expected, they might announce some new content.

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Trickling simple things into the game would still do wonders IMO. Add a few quests, some Unity NMs, etc. There's still dozens of zones in the game that we do little in. Add a ??? with a sparkle or a swirl, some NM they brain stormed together in 5 minutes with a reused model, and add some gear that they developed with a dart board with a reused model and it'd go much, much further than "no more content."

If the mobile version is the game directly, beyond catching people that haven't played the game yet that take part heavily in mobile games (younger generations fit that bill well) I can't see much reason for seasoned players to give it much thought since it'll be released at a point when the game is receiving no content. :/ Not saying that to you so much as I'm saying it to SE. Business wise, I can understand wanting to relaunch this massive amount of content at an audience that has likely never heard of it, much less played it, in an ecosystem where such an offering would dominate if handled correctly. But providing no further content seems to be crippling it out of the gate.

We'll probably get a definitive answer as to what kind of updates we can expect after November, I think it's safe to say there will not be any new storylines, battle systems, or jobs. I would expect to continue to see login campaigns, new trusts, job point categories, balance adjustments, quality of life improvements, etc, so long as there is demand for it.

I would like to see new high tier fights or other challenging activities once in a while. It's fun to grind old content but it's always exciting to figure out a new challenge.

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I applaud you, Sir.

You really said what I have been thinking, entirely. Vanadiel has given me over a decade of fun, friendship, excitement and joy. Nothing else in my life has ever come close to that, not videogames or anything. Even though I pay subs for the game, I am still in SE's debt because they gave me a decade of unforgettable memories, something money can not buy, and certainly not the tiny subs they asked of me.

And so I will be battling monsters in Vanadiel, going fishing, petting my Mog Garden sheep, and so on, for as long as the game is available online, and it doesn't matter to me that there are no more expansions 2016+ because it is still Vanadiel and still the realm of wonder where all my fondest memories dwell.

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Have to agree here as well, regardless of new content or not I will stay as long as I can. Too many good memories and tbh too much for me to still do!

It is simply too close to my heart to abandon it, but ppl should not be surprised, I have noted many many times on alla how dead ffxi is ...this is simply the result of that reality.

Its a change...nothing more in my eyes. Look forward to playing this wonderful game for a good bit of time yet, but if and when the end does happen, I will accept it. Until then, I still have a long list of things to finish....and even start! :D

I wish we'd at least get slow updates... like get some kind of new content once every 6 months, or a year. Rehash something! Redo old content! Make Nyzul 3.0, just the same as the original but higher level with new gear! Add like 3 items every few months but say nothing about where to get them and see how long it takes the community to figure it out!

Maybe I'm a bit too guilty of falling for the carrot and stick model we've had all this time, but I really imagine that if they will hang on to as much of a skeleton team to release bugfixes and even balance the game better, I can't see why the same people couldn't add a little something new here or there, on the side. The way I see it, SE is attempting to shuffle us all on over to XIV or something new, because even with how old FFXI is, with some server merges we'd all still be fine.

We'd be fine but I am wondering if FFXI has stopped making as much money? I think their timing is poor though because I knew several people who were going to resubscribe for the reforged af3 and now I know several people who have quit because of the whole 'end is near' thing.

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Why is change so hard to accept? There is soo much to do in that game...I mean..it took me almost 4 years to complete all the story lines. I've enjoyed my time with FFXI. I play on Windows, so I'll still be playing...even to the end hopefully. There are still others out there that will still want to play, so I'll play with them. You can't expect them to keep tossing out new content over and over when they want to move on...whether its better or worse. Thank you SE for the wonderful memories! Thank you for creating a virtual world! Thank you for your time!

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The problem is that once you've caught up to speed on accomplishments with nothing left to look forward to but the Next Update. That's when you quit. Which would happen sooner rather than later I would imagine for the vast majority whom still play. I play on 360 and if Nov is the last of the last then I won't even need them to boot me offline by March 2016 when they kill off support for my platform. I would be already long gone by then with little to do that meant anything beyond nastalgia.

Strange things will happen after this announcement, we will come together as a tight knit community and we will beat the odds. Remember if this happens, I said it first! /copyright

I'd hope SE would continue with updates in the forseeable future with large updates like they did with Zilart and Aht Urghan. These little content upgrades we've gotten to add more missions, more dungeons, more gear with moot upgrades, have been disappointing imo. They've not given me the same buzz I used to get in the days when whole new worlds were added. It feels like SE is just squeezing in little bits here and there to satisfy the hardcore players who've already cleared everything else so they have a reason to log in besides login points. All servers suffer with low population, if the players who've completed everything haven't anything to look forward to they'd not log in or they'd move onto another MMO and likely not return to FFXI and that would cost SE money and probably put an end to FFXI. I am guessing SE is saying "no more updates" probably because they want to see if it'll be worth it first after they drop PS2/Xbox support.

If the mobile version is a success *and* if it runs on the same servers as the PC version I imagine they'd change their minds about no new content updates. They might decide to drop the PC native version at that point. But porting the Android version to the PC would be a relatively simple matter. Commercial tools for compiling PC versions of Android apps already exist and with a completely rewritten engine for a native Android version porting to different platforms would be much simpler than with the mess of spaghetti code they have now.

I would never play a mobile version of the game (Heck, I have a Windows tablet and the game runs fine on that), but the odds decent are good people in Japan might. If they get a meaningful number of players from it, it could change things. Don't hold your breath though.

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I was thinking this too. It's not unheard of for a small indie company to change its mind and put out more updates, but a corporation with multiple other MMOs...

That is truly a pipe dream. If any new content continues after Nov, it will be private servers

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The problem is that once you've caught up to speed on accomplishments with nothing left to look forward to but the Next Update. That's when you quit. Which would happen sooner rather than later I would imagine for the vast majority whom still play. I play on 360 and if Nov is the last of the last then I won't even need them to boot me offline by March 2016 when they kill off support for my platform. I would be already long gone by then with little to do that meant anything beyond nastalgia.

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Yeah but this is nothing new. Having played since ps2, i can't tell ya how many i've seen log on day of update, burn thru a few missions and latest gimmick, then disappear till the next update...then just cancel sub for good when it became clear the updates can't keep up with their progress. Nov-March was until SoA a typical update cycle. I mean this right here is why we've gone from 500k subs to 80k ish. If you ask me, the devs determined they can't keep this pace of monthly updates with the limited budget they have

Even with all the content added since lv75, it's possible to make a new char and max out on all but mythics in 3-4 months or less. For the most part, people who won't accomplish this before november play sparingly or avoid endgame