Adoulin missions ending points to..

A new expansion?

Does the speed with which Adoulin is being finished up point towards another expansion in 2015?

Wotg was drawn out for years because they were dragging out releasing a new expansion. With FFXI the expansions usually help to pay for and give the template for all the content that follows until a new one launches, which is why they always launch with almost no content other than areas.

I personally cant see another expansion coming in the near future, as seekers of adoulin was the last game to come out for PS2 in japan before they retired it. So you gotta wonder if thats it for future big content expansions if SE are still sticking with japanese PS2 users =(

Yes, new expansion is on its way. New jobs!

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Originally Posted by Draylo

Yes, new expansion is on its way. New jobs!

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Source? Details? Yeah you got nothing.

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Originally Posted by Afin

I personally cant see another expansion coming in the near future, as seekers of adoulin was the last game to come out for PS2 in japan before they retired it. So you gotta wonder if thats it for future big content expansions if SE are still sticking with japanese PS2 users =(

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That just means no new titles have been announced, they can announce and release one if they want to.

They already stated the last ps2 title would be fifa 14 and a new title has been announced since then, PES 2014.

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Originally Posted by Pixela

That just means no new titles have been announced, they can announce and release one if they want to.

They already stated the last ps2 title would be fifa 14 and a new title has been announced since then, PES 2014.

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That's not 100% true, the last title was FIFA 2014 for South America, but PES 2014 was released the same day in NA as FIFA 2014 (September 24, 2013). Mind you that was several months after the Release of Seeks of Adoulin which was April 11, 2013. Never the less, Japan didn't get those two titles, so FFXI: SoA is still the last released game for the PS2 there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._game_consoles

As for there being another expansion, More than likely not. WotG was stretched out for the purpose of the fact that they originally had no plans to make another expansion to begin with. When FFXIV tanked the first round, they needed some type of hook to keep people. Most of the people that migrated there were people from FFXI. There is more than enough content that they could expand upon, and as much as it pain to agree, as long as the PS2 is still attached to it in Japan, the next expansion is very slim to none. But I do remember reading something from an FFXIV article, they were throwing around the idea of an FFXI: Gaiden game for the New Gens. Who knows? They have been porting so many of the previous gen games to them, someone might get froggy and do a 100% HD, Remaster, Super Deluxe, OMG version for the PS4 and everyone can rejoice for their dreams of the super graphics for this game.

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That's not 100% true, the last title was FIFA 2014 for South America, but PES 2014 was released the same day in NA as FIFA 2014 (September 24, 2013). Mind you that was several months after the Release of Seeks of Adoulin which was April 11, 2013. Never the less, Japan didn't get those two titles, so FFXI: SoA is still the last released game for the PS2 there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._game_consoles

As for there being another expansion, More than likely not. WotG was stretched out for the purpose of the fact that they originally had no plans to make another expansion to begin with. When FFXIV tanked the first round, they needed some type of hook to keep people. Most of the people that migrated there were people from FFXI. There is more than enough content that they could expand upon, and as much as it pain to agree, as long as the PS2 is still attached to it in Japan, the next expansion is very slim to none. But I do remember reading something from an FFXIV article, they were throwing around the idea of an FFXI: Gaiden game for the New Gens. Who knows? They have been porting so many of the previous gen games to them, someone might get froggy and do a 100% HD, Remaster, Super Deluxe, OMG version for the PS4 and everyone can rejoice for their dreams of the super graphics for this game.

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What I wrote was that there is no cut off to making new ps2 titles, there are no more announced titles but any company can make more anytime they want, there is no directive passed down by Sony that no more can be made.

A more reasonable explanation for how long it took to finish WoTG is that they simply did not have the staff to work on it, they were all working on FFXIV. This is well documented since work on lots of titles was ceased and delayed due to that. Also one of the major development directives for FFXIV was that it was to be as unlike FFXI as possible, it's pretty obvious that the idea was to run multiple mmo titles and infact they stated the idea was to run multiple titles to maintain a steady cash flow.

So it's very possible that the next expansions could already be being worked on and may release in 2015.

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Originally Posted by Pixela

What I wrote was that there is no cut off to making new ps2 titles, there are no more announced titles but any company can make more anytime they want, there is no directive passed down by Sony that no more can be made.

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Could and Would are two very different things. If the pool for the PS2 was so small in the US that it didn't warrant a release, I doubt that there will be a 'bigger' pool in Japan now that there are two generations of console differences.

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A more reasonable explanation for how long it took to finish WoTG is that they simply did not have the staff to work on it, they were all working on FFXIV. This is well documented since work on lots of titles was ceased and delayed due to that. Also one of the major development directives for FFXIV was that it was to be as unlike FFXI as possible, it's pretty obvious that the idea was to run multiple mmo titles and infact they stated the idea was to run multiple titles to maintain a steady cash flow.

So it's very possible that the next expansions could already be being worked on and may release in 2015.

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While it's true that they wanted both games to continue in tandem, it's doesn't mean that they had a plan to release a full expansion passed WotG Orginally.

Wings of the Goddess debuted in the States: November 20, 2007. That is a MASSIVE 7 years ago. The conclusion update happened around Aug-September of 2010. Which that marks the official release of FFXIV: September 22, 2010 that ran until November 11, 2012. Coincidentally, The official announcement for the fourth WoW Expansion, happened in March of 2012 with a release date of September 25, 2012. Strangely enough, 3 months later, after nearly 2 years from the conclusion of WotG, and the increasingly poor reviews for and Sales for FFXIV, on June 22, 2012 an actual expansion was set to release April 11, 2013. 4 Months before the second attempt to get FFXIV:ARR off the ground.

The only reason that we got that expansion, in full truth was because FFXIV tanked and WoW was making yet another expansion further pulling away from 14. And even the CD we got was next to nothing for content. I'd love to see FFXI continue to grow and get more and more expansions, but the likelihood is very low. We'll most likely get another add-on scenario like Abyssea or the Crystalline Prophecy bunch.

Concerning how it seems SE as a whole doesn't want to throw more money at XI. We haven't had a XI fanfest in years, the freshly picked look like something slightly higher than something someone could have done in their basement. Most players feel that the XI dev team is a skeleton crew or almost there. Though I will say that SoA was a nice surprise, but I doubt there will be another full blown expansion like this.

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Could and Would are two very different things. If the pool for the PS2 was so small in the US that it didn't warrant a release, I doubt that there will be a 'bigger' pool in Japan now that there are two generations of console differences.



While it's true that they wanted both games to continue in tandem, it's doesn't mean that they had a plan to release a full expansion passed WotG Orginally.

Wings of the Goddess debuted in the States: November 20, 2007. That is a MASSIVE 7 years ago. The conclusion update happened around Aug-September of 2010. Which that marks the official release of FFXIV: September 22, 2010 that ran until November 11, 2012. Coincidentally, The official announcement for the fourth WoW Expansion, happened in March of 2012 with a release date of September 25, 2012. Strangely enough, 3 months later, after nearly 2 years from the conclusion of WotG, and the increasingly poor reviews for and Sales for FFXIV, on June 22, 2012 an actual expansion was set to release April 11, 2013. 4 Months before the second attempt to get FFXIV:ARR off the ground.

The only reason that we got that expansion, in full truth was because FFXIV tanked and WoW was making yet another expansion further pulling away from 14. And even the CD we got was next to nothing for content. I'd love to see FFXI continue to grow and get more and more expansions, but the likelihood is very low. We'll most likely get another add-on scenario like Abyssea or the Crystalline Prophecy bunch.

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Well again you can't really state anything you said as fact, they asked US players in a questionnaire if they wanted SoA released on PS2 and they said no, which is why it didn't happen. They misunderstood the reasons they said no but still that's why. I mean honestly there is no valid reason not to keep releasing expansions, FFXI still gets monthly updates, still has a dedicated dev team working on it, gets monthly live letters and it still has a large number of players. FFXI is still one of the most popular mmo titles in Japan.

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Concerning how it seems SE as a whole doesn't want to throw more money at XI. We haven't had a XI fanfest in years, the freshly picked look like something slightly higher than something someone could have done in their basement. Most players feel that the XI dev team is a skeleton crew or almost there. Though I will say that SoA was a nice surprise, but I doubt there will be another full blown expansion like this.

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This doesn't make any sense, it gets monthly updates which are incredibly fast compared to almost any mmo you care to mention. That is by definition throwing money at XI, I've played games where it was obvious the devs had lost interest in the title and FFXI does not fit that bill at all. As for it having a skeleton crew, well that's been the case for many years now and we still got SoA so that's a meaningless argument. Development crew are not the same as a crew that makes an expansion pack.

FFXI still has a large playerbase who pay a high sub fee, especially in Japan and expansion packs really aren't all that costly to create since they always launch them bare bones and build on them over the following years. There is really zero reason not to put these out at all. People will buy them since we are a loyal bunch and there is no lockout on making PS2 discs.

I am certain one is coming because it's simply common sense that they would, I just wondered if SOA missions coming to an end signified it would be 2015 or 2016.

Well Wings of the Goddess and Abyssea both ended in December 2010. Seekers of Adoulin didn't come out until about 2 years after that. In the intervening time, I remember they raised the level cap to 95, then 99 by the end of 2011. Then they seemed to put a lot of focus on Voidwatch.

A new expansion might be in the works, but I wouldn't expect it until mid 2017.

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Well Wings of the Goddess and Abyssea both ended in December 2010. Seekers of Adoulin didn't come out until about 2 years after that. In the intervening time, I remember they raised the level cap to 95, then 99 by the end of 2011. Then they seemed to put a lot of focus on Voidwatch.

A new expansion might be in the works, but I wouldn't expect it until mid 2017.

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They most definitely have the concepts for content to go with. I'm just not going to hold my breath. Even with all the Mods that the Japanese players got with the PS2 HDD add-on, there's still a hard cap, and with no new makes to expand upon, as long as they're in the mix it'll be rough to press forward. Even the Xbox 360 is showing signs of problems, massive lag spikes, etc. Not to mention the decrease in server population. Don't get me wrong, I feel this game still has some life left in it, but if they did a 'reboot/transfer' to the new consoles then they'd have a chance to extend the life even more. Still, that costs money, and when something gives you profit for next to nothing, you try not to change it. Not to mention, The only New Gen console I would see this game transferring to would be the PS4 because SE is about keeping people connected, and the only reason FFXI came to 360 what because of the Playonline login, something Microsoft didn't have to worry about. I mean, SE did offer to put FFXIV on the Xbox One, but they declined because they wanted separate servers for their users, which defeats the purpose of scores of functions in that game, and an unnecessary burden on SE.

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They most definitely have the concepts for content to go with. I'm just not going to hold my breath. Even with all the Mods that the Japanese players got with the PS2 HDD add-on, there's still a hard cap, and with no new makes to expand upon, as long as they're in the mix it'll be rough to press forward. Even the Xbox 360 is showing signs of problems, massive lag spikes, etc. Not to mention the decrease in server population. Don't get me wrong, I feel this game still has some life left in it, but if they did a 'reboot/transfer' to the new consoles then they'd have a chance to extend the life even more. Still, that costs money, and when something gives you profit for next to nothing, you try not to change it. Not to mention, The only New Gen console I would see this game transferring to would be the PS4 because SE is about keeping people connected, and the only reason FFXI came to 360 what because of the Playonline login, something Microsoft didn't have to worry about. I mean, SE did offer to put FFXIV on the Xbox One, but they declined because they wanted separate servers for their users, which defeats the purpose of scores of functions in that game, and an unnecessary burden on SE.

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They upgraded the space available from 10 gig to 19 gigs, I think that hard cap is just fine.

Expansion packs are important to a game like this, they aid in player retention. In more modern titles expansions are a negative because it means a loss of players due to a large chunk not wanting to buy them, which is why most do downloadable expansions. FFXI has a dedicated playerbase who are well accustomed to buying them, it makes more sense and more profits to make them than not for this kind of game.

Keep in mind that FFXI is still the most profitable FF title they ever made, it was incredibly cheap to develop and is a major source of easy to maintain profit.

SE is working on the Heavensward expansion for FF14 that's probably what they want people to play.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

SE is working on the Heavensward expansion for FF14 that's probably what they want people to play.

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SE is a large company, they can make more than 1 thing at a time. Also they have always said they want to run multiple mmo titles at once to maximize profits, it's not a case of FF14 is a replacement for FF11 because they are nothing alike.

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Originally Posted by Pixela

They upgraded the space available from 10 gig to 19 gigs, I think that hard cap is just fine.

Expansion packs are important to a game like this, they aid in player retention. In more modern titles expansions are a negative because it means a loss of players due to a large chunk not wanting to buy them, which is why most do downloadable expansions. FFXI has a dedicated playerbase who are well accustomed to buying them, it makes more sense and more profits to make them than not for this kind of game.

Keep in mind that FFXI is still the most profitable FF title they ever made, it was incredibly cheap to develop and is a major source of easy to maintain profit.

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You can keep dreaming if you want to, I'm not going to place any bets. Making another expansion means that they also have to make physical copies of the game for PS2/XBox 360. The game makes them money the less effort they have to put into it. But whatever, Believe what you want to, there's no proof to point in either direction.

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You can keep dreaming if you want to, I'm not going to place any bets. Making another expansion means that they also have to make physical copies of the game for PS2/XBox 360. The game makes them money the less effort they have to put into it. But whatever, Believe what you want to, there's no proof to point in either direction.

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You're putting a lot of effort into arguing against something that would benefit you.

Everything you said applied just the same to SoA, as such they are meaningless negative nancy arguments.

The conclusion of the SoA storyline means the SoA storyline has concluded but not much more. Without official word, knowing the financials of the game, or what's going on inside SE (especially in regards to the team that manages FFXI), this conversation doesn't go far.

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SE is a large company, they can make more than 1 thing at a time. Also they have always said they want to run multiple mmo titles at once to maximize profits, it's not a case of FF14 is a replacement for FF11 because they are nothing alike.

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They have the same races but with better graphics. They are pretty similar games its just 14 has more modern mmo convinces. I been playing 14 more then 11 lately but been liking 14 much more.

I meant that XI probably won't see a budget increase any time soon which is what a full blown expansion would need. Which btw the dev team or at least part of it would be working on. They still gives us updates because enough people are still playing XI to be feasible for them. Compared to XIV, XI might as well be in hibernate mode. This year alone XIV added a job been working on all patches leading up to the expansion, the expansion, holding three fanfests (one still to come) a 14hr twitch event, got talked about at GDC, was at all the major gaming conventions, are going to be launching in China, and multiple mini events across Japan. Also there are talks in the works for an EU data center.

When was the last time XI got that much exposure? The main thing I can think of was the 18hr+ fight against AV. Most game reviewers we going wait, people still play that? Oh and shame on SE for making a fight that risked the health of its players.

SE has two mmos that it actually cares highly about and neither of them are XI. Yes, we get updates once a month and the devs still seem to care but look at the amount of misunderstanding between players and them. The monthly updates are more like a monthly feeding to rabid animals that scarf down the food in seconds and grumble about the measly offering. While also being unhappy with the food they got because it wasn't the good stuff.

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They have the same races but with better graphics. They are pretty similar games its just 14 has more modern mmo convinces. I been playing 14 more then 11 lately but been liking 14 much more.

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Did you ever play World of Warcraft? It has far more in common with WoW than it does with FFXI (especially at endgame). The only things FFXIV has in common with FFXI are cosmetic, the races aren't even called the same things.

The two titles are nothing alike, at all. If you think FFXI is like FFXIV then you're saying FFXI is like WoW, Rift, Aion etc.

Endgame is dungeon crawling, crafing is easy and worthless, there is almost no community, there is no shouting for content you just click a button and are sent to a dungeon with people from other servers you will never see again. If you never played WoW then this is is like your eyes being opened to modern mmo titles, either that or it's the people that didn't like wow just because of the graphics.

I could never stick with any wow clone long term, they get incredibly repetitive due to endless dungeon grinding the same few instances and they have no soul or community. The things that make FFXI great do not exist in FFXIV and never will, it's as simple as that.

The reason FFXI and Everquest are still played in pretty high numbers is because they are unique and their will probably never be any more titles that play like them made ever again. They are something to be treasured because all that is made these days are constant wow clones.

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Originally Posted by Pixela

You're putting a lot of effort into arguing against something that would benefit you.

Everything you said applied just the same to SoA, as such they are meaningless negative nancy arguments.

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Realist.

http://youtu.be/bV4AEBk6KDY?t=2m18s

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Originally Posted by Pixela

Did you ever play World of Warcraft? It has far more in common with WoW than it does with FFXI (especially at endgame). The only things FFXIV has in common with FFXI are cosmetic, the races aren't even called the same things.

The two titles are nothing alike, at all. If you think FFXI is like FFXIV then you're saying FFXI is like WoW, Rift, Aion etc.

Endgame is dungeon crawling, crafing is easy and worthless, there is almost no community, there is no shouting for content you just click a button and are sent to a dungeon with people from other servers you will never see again. If you never played WoW then this is is like your eyes being opened to modern mmo titles, either that or it's the people that didn't like wow just because of the graphics.

I could never stick with any wow clone long term, they get incredibly repetitive due to endless dungeon grinding the same few instances and they have no soul or community. The things that make FFXI great do not exist in FFXIV and never will, it's as simple as that.

The reason FFXI and Everquest are still played in pretty high numbers is because they are unique and their will probably never be any more titles that play like them made ever again. They are something to be treasured because all that is made these days are constant wow clones.

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Are you kidding the fights in FFXIV are extremely difficult only 3 LS in the whole world have beat bahamut so far. Your post shows me you never played the game. Endgame requires an FC or LS you can not click 1 button and get to a high end raid and join a group that is only for dungeons which is low level entry content. Stuff like EX primals and Bahamut's coil take a highly organized group.

Nobody shouts for stuff because they have the party finder which lets you see groups on your server needing members. And lets you join those groups which is way better then shouting.

There are many of the same final fantasy jobs, and summons you fight and along with stuff like bahamut. Its is truly a sequel to FF11. The patch for FF11 has just came out and I already beat the last boss in the missions. Same can not be said for FF14, I have only beat 1 out of 4 new bosses added, the fights are much more involved in 14 then anything in ff11.

Since I play both FF11 and 14 I can tell you the 14 servers are way more active then 11s and so are the community forums.

Overall the game has all the same FF races from 11 and a lot of the classic avatars that make it FF and the story is good. There is a lot of modern tech in the game because well it came out 10 years later and gaming has advanced. The combat is more involved you have to hit a lot more buttons in 14 to do damage combat is way faster paced vs 11.

If you like Final Fantasy games and the story why wouldn't you play 14 too?

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Are you kidding the fights in FFXIV are extremely difficult only 3 LS in the whole world have beat bahamut so far. Your post shows me you never played the game. Endgame requires an FC or LS you can not click 1 button and get to a high end raid and join a group that is only for dungeons which is low level entry content. Stuff like EX primals and Bahamut's coil take a highly organized group.

Nobody shouts for stuff because they have the party finder which lets you see groups on your server needing members. And lets you join those groups which is way better then shouting.

There are many of the same final fantasy jobs, and summons you fight and along with stuff like bahamut. Its is truly a sequel to FF11. The patch for FF11 has just came out and I already beat the last boss in the missions. Same can not be said for FF14, I have only beat 1 out of 4 new bosses added, the fights are much more involved in 14 then anything in ff11.

Since I play both FF11 and 14 I can tell you the 14 servers are way more active then 11s and so are the community forums.

Overall the game has all the same FF races from 11 and a lot of the classic avatars that make it FF and the story is good. There is a lot of modern tech in the game because well it came out 10 years later and gaming has advanced. The combat is more involved you have to hit a lot more buttons in 14 to do damage combat is way faster paced vs 11.

If you like Final Fantasy games and the story why wouldn't you play 14 too?

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FFXIV is WoW with FF skin, that is all it is. Endgame is doing the same few dungeons over and over and over again, and the next patch will add 3 more dungeons that you do over and over and over again. Where you throw all your gear you grinded to grind more in an endless cycle. Community? There isn't one, because the majority of players end up doing dungeon finder content with people from other servers you will never see again that won't even say hello to you because of that.

The content isn't hard, it's based on twitch mechanics and having the right gear. Ilevel isn't difficulty. Everything in FFXIV is beaten in under a week of it being added, there is nothing difficult in it if you live close to the servers.

Also you really have no idea how lively it is because it has no way to check how many people are online and the world is incredibly small compared to ffxi. You're just eyeballing.

FFXIV is nothing like FFXI at all, it IS a very basic wow clone with boring dungeon grinding as the only endgame content. The only reason people think it's something special is because it's pwetty and they are finally playing a wow game they said was bad but never actually played it. I know, I played it and other wow clones for a while. I had the stars in my eyes like you, it didn't last.

The story is awful, the community is awful, the world is tame and lacks any kind of danger, the avatars look like pokemon and the races lose most of the charm of the XI races. They all have the same animations, miquote or whatever stupid name they gave the mithras are humans with cat tails glued on their butts etc.

If you like playing FFwow then enjoy but don't say anyone who likes FFXI will like that because many of us have played it and played wow and don't like that kind of dungeon grinder. FFXI has as much in common with FFXIV as it does with call of duty with a cat girl mod.

And some people enjoy both WoW AND FFXI. Just like some people like both Xbox AND PlayStation. I'm sure there are even some who like Ford AND Chevy, but let's not go crazy here.

Anyway, what exactly is the point of this? It just seems like an episode of "Bash That Game I Don't Play."

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And some people enjoy both WoW AND FFXI. Just like some people like both Xbox AND PlayStation. I'm sure there are even some who like Ford AND Chevy, but let's not go crazy here.

Anyway, what exactly is the point of this? It just seems like an episode of "Bash That Game I Don't Play."

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It was supposed to be about how quickly we got the final missions of SoA = to us getting another full expansion some time soon. And that soon means in less time that it took us to get SoA after WotG was finished.

Yet some of the reasons Pixela have said in the bash the game I don't like portion of this thread are the exact same crap people do in XI. Which are doing the same events over and over to get gear that gets tossed to the side the moment new better stuff gets put into the game. Along with people who rush through the newest content soon after patch and complain about having nothing to do except whine about how the patch sucked because of the "lack" of things to do. Oh, and somehow XI's forums and in game community is better than XIV's. The only thing going for XI's forums is that there are no threads that have XI's producers name as the title all strung out with an excessive amount of exclamation marks at the end. Only to then complain about their character's lack of a butt or breast.

I'd like to see another expansion but I doubt it will happen for awhile. I do think it could happen though. I mean, I don't see why not. They could probably develop it using the income we send their way every month (so no cash infusion needed) and make it all back and more selling boxes/downloads. As long as they made more than they spent on Seekers, then they will consider another expansion.

Unless they think declining sub numbers are the fault of Seekers... but it is more likely they believe falling sub numbers are to do with XIV, and expect them to stabilize.

I'd like to add my 2 cents here: If you look at the Seekers artwork (amano's) there does seem to be a southern portion beyond marjami ravine (where the blue dragon-y thing is). In addition to this, there's still the UI elements, the reforged Empyrean, and a few other planned features we haven't gotten yet. As a final aside: Adoulin also has an airship dock.
Although there's a tunnel that doesn't lead anywhere in Kazham still, so that could just be cosmetic grace and not mean anything. I'd love another expansion myself, and another 10 years of life for this game, and an HD graphics version. But at the same time, realistically I don't think it's going to work out that way.
Which is a shame, I'd have loved to have gone to the far east/far west/far north/far south/underground/moon/wherever other crazy places they come up with. Sadly, the job count sits at 22, not 30 though.
happy adventuring!

I like both FFXI and FFXIV. I must be some crazy abomination.

Anyways, a new expansion would be cool, any updates is cool, this game is cool.

I think it would be hard to ask players to pay an additional $30 at once for a new expansion, but I could see an add-on trilogy of mini expansions... North continent? South Continent? Far East? More like Abyssea in terms of amount of battle content (not mechanics please) and gear and less like ACP, ASA and Moogle. I'd love to see a small town in each area too, if not a full blown castle in the north like one of the books in the library mentions... :3

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I think it would be hard to ask players to pay an additional $30 at once for a new expansion

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Why would this be hard to ask?

Aby was a good bit different than the previous add ons. I personally hated the three. Neither felt like the story, design, battles, or even the gear was worth the extra money. It felt like something that should of been included as update material. Instead by charging for it, it almost felt like they were going towards a pay to play content model, similar to what games like Dungeons and Dragons: Online did. Except the sub fee was still there... -.-

If they could recapture the usefulness that Aby brought, I wouldn't mind them. But ACP, AMKdE, and ASA really left a sour taste. I'd sooner pay for a full on expansion than wish to have anything of those likes again.

They still have Far East and Mithran Homeland to unveil. I guess also the Northern Contient where the orcs and gigas come from? I'd rather see that rolled into another expansion though. Far East sounds like it'd be tricky for lore reasons--didn't Tenzen say during Chains of Promathia that the Emptieness had consumed most of the Far East?

Doing a whole new continent is probably beyond the scope of any Abyssea like miniature expansion. Each of those only added only 3 new zones, and those were just reskins of existing zones. The earlier add on scenario trio was even less, simply adding a series of quests into existing areas. An expansion that adds a whole new continent is a lot more work and I think $30 would be a fair price point for that.

They have unlimited amount of places to choose from, there is no specific amount. Look at Adoulin, we knew nothing about it except some blurb from a NPC and occasional item descriptions. Then SE didn't even follow the little information we had on it lol, and made it something else. They can do whatever they want. We could even have an expansion that goes into the other half of Aht Urghan lol.

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They have unlimited amount of places to choose from, there is no specific amount. Look at Adoulin, we knew nothing about it except some blurb from a NPC and occasional item descriptions. Then SE didn't even follow the little information we had on it lol, and made it something else. They can do whatever they want. We could even have an expansion that goes into the other half of Aht Urghan lol.

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Sure but I'd rather they look into the places the already have established before creating new ones.

They promised Far East at some of the CoP (2005) ending cut scenes ... Where is it ?

I'd rather have that than Mithran homeland.

Well we have gone back in time....so why couldn't we go into the future? 100+ years?

Future nations, all future zones are level 99+, maybe the far east invades the mainland?

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Or what if the future is post apocalyptic and the mother crystals shattered? mission would be to find out how the apocalypse happened by investigating the future and once you find out...go back to current time and prevent it from happening