Classic Server

Hello, this is a thread intended for direct feedback to the devs/community team (as there is no way that I am aware of to send feedback directly) not meant to be a topic of debate.

I would like to request that, if possible, the devs make available one FFXI server that is set to an earlier patch date. Specifically, the furthest along patch when the level cap was 75 before the addition of the back to back repeatable grounds of valor/fields of valor (as book burns are against the idea of the 'classic' experience).

This is something that a number of other games have offered (the main ones that come to mind are everquest progression servers which are similar but slightly different from what I am asking, and runescape classic functionality, there is also a lineage 2 classic server) and I think something that would be great to offer here.

This server would be a single server with a different patch or a rule set that makes everything since the intended patch not exist on the server. This could be done at the same time as making other server changes like server consolidation for population purposes.

As a huge fan of the game you have made, please look into seeing if this is possible. If it is not, then it is what it is but this would be a great thing for some of us out there.

Please support this with a like.

note: Please stop speaking as to the developers limitations as I highly doubt you or anyone in here knows the details of them. If you're wrong about the developers limitations then you are just spreading useless misinformation, if you are right about them then we still end up with nothing because it is unconfirmed and unofficial. Let the devs speak for themselves should they choose to, its not your responsibility as a member of the community to do so.

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That would be reset to 2009 I guess, because Aby arrived in early 2010.

Would you like the reset to include "no level-synch" and no "auto gear-scaling" for capped events? And how do you think that 2014 lower server numbers would provide enough people to fill parties on the correct job / level / time of day. If this server was small (I think it would be) who would synth all the correct cap armors / weapons required for levelling-up and for engaging in capped events without gear-scaling.

Quite honestly my years 2004-2009 on Remora were my happiest days in Vanadiel, I liked the level 75 cap etc. So its not that I don't see your point of view. I just wonder how the lower player numbers in 2014, and the even lower numbers on an optional retro niche server, would have enough bodies to fill regular xp parties with the right levels / jobs / timezones etc. and how those small server numbers would farm the mats and synth the gear for all the level-capped parties.

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Originally Posted by Stompa

That would be reset to 2009 I guess, because Aby arrived in early 2010.

Would you like the reset to include "no level-synch" and no "auto gear-scaling" for capped events? And how do you think that 2014 lower server numbers would provide enough people to fill parties on the correct job / level / time of day. If this server was small (I think it would be) who would synth all the correct cap armors / weapons required for levelling-up and for engaging in capped events without gear-scaling.

Quite honestly my years 2004-2009 on Remora were my happiest days in Vanadiel, I liked the level 75 cap etc. So its not that I don't see your point of view. I just wonder how the lower player numbers in 2014, and the even lower numbers on an optional retro niche server, would have enough bodies to fill regular xp parties with the right levels / jobs / timezones etc. and how those small server numbers would farm the mats and synth the gear for all the level-capped parties.

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Well, as you say there are risks but its something I think should be tried anyway. If it doesn't work, whats the worst that could happen? They shut the classic server down and ppl go back to the current ones. Personally though, I think theres a lot of potential for this to work, as there being only 1 server there would likely be a few people from all the current servers that swap over and I think we would even draw in some returning players who long for the old school ways. As for the level sync, while I was not a fan of it when it was added I think it should stick for this classic server on your point actually that we may have fewer players there so having tools like that may be needed. I think that still supports the classic but makes it approachable with lesser means which is more mandatory now than when it was originally added.

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Originally Posted by Natasha

Well, as you say there are risks but its something I think should be tried anyway. If it doesn't work, whats the worst that could happen? They shut the classic server down and ppl go back to the current ones. Personally though, I think theres a lot of potential for this to work, as there being only 1 server there would likely be a few people from all the current servers that swap over and I think we would even draw in some returning players who long for the old school ways. As for the level sync, while I was not a fan of it when it was added I think it should stick for this classic server on your point actually that we may have fewer players there so having tools like that may be needed. I think that still supports the classic but makes it approachable with lesser means which is more mandatory now than when it was originally added.

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It does sound like an interesting experiment... I would love to see the results of a 2009-era server with everyone starting from the 6 level 1 starter jobs. (Since I'm figuring that you wouldn't be able to transport your toon you currently have over).

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Originally Posted by Stompa

That would be reset to 2009 I guess, because Aby arrived in early 2010.

Would you like the reset to include "no level-synch" and no "auto gear-scaling" for capped events? And how do you think that 2014 lower server numbers would provide enough people to fill parties on the correct job / level / time of day. If this server was small (I think it would be) who would synth all the correct cap armors / weapons required for levelling-up and for engaging in capped events without gear-scaling.

Quite honestly my years 2004-2009 on Remora were my happiest days in Vanadiel, I liked the level 75 cap etc. So its not that I don't see your point of view. I just wonder how the lower player numbers in 2014, and the even lower numbers on an optional retro niche server, would have enough bodies to fill regular xp parties with the right levels / jobs / timezones etc. and how those small server numbers would farm the mats and synth the gear for all the level-capped parties.

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It wouldn't be a bad idea at all to have a server that's a pre-aby one, i preferred those days to afterwards. As for the concern for how the small server would operate SE would hopefully take some of the improvements to the game and implement them to it, as you said level sync the gear scaling and such, the hours of waiting for a party because I wasn't around the level I can do without lol.

So it sounds like it is not a "full reset" to those times, but basically level 75 and all old systems, except gear scaling and level synch, which would be included despite being more modern additions.

You would probably need to keep some of the level-specific casket-drop armors/weaps, and maybe a RoE-type NPC who sells lvl 1-75 basic armor/weaps. Because if everyone is xping and doing events on the old slowmode system, you aren't going to have enough people synthing and farming all the mats for making gear. Sure there will be some people fulltiming the synthesis lifestyle, but probably not enough to provide all the level-specific gear for a whole server.

The other problem I can see is people who have built RME past lvl 75 lol. Those people are not going to join your server, and lose all the work they did.

Its a nice idea though and I'm sure quite a few people would be interested.

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Originally Posted by Stompa

So it sounds like it is not a "full reset" to those times, but basically level 75 and all old systems, except gear scaling and level synch, which would be included despite being more modern additions.

You would probably need to keep some of the level-specific casket-drop armors/weaps, and maybe a RoE-type NPC who sells lvl 1-75 basic armor/weaps. Because if everyone is xping and doing events on the old slowmode system, you aren't going to have enough people synthing and farming all the mats for making gear. Sure there will be some people fulltiming the synthesis lifestyle, but probably not enough to provide all the level-specific gear for a whole server.

The other problem I can see is people who have built RME past lvl 75 lol. Those people are not going to join your server, and lose all the work they did.

Its a nice idea though and I'm sure quite a few people would be interested.

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I would prefer to avoid having those kinds of vendors in the server at least at the start and add them if it is needed when the population flattens out. There are already at least a few places to get supplementary gear such as normal gil vendors and conquest points etc. Also idk, I personally have an i119 apocalypse and several other RME things and I welcome dropping it all to go back.

Between the low population now, and the cost of maintaining two different forks of the game (because new bugs will be found in that seperate server version), that's a very large risk, with the resources we have now. They're already accellerated to monthly patches, versus the 3-4 a year they were doing before Abyssea, and with fewer staff to do so. It would harm the more populated version of the game to do so. There's also concern that the current player base has aged on average, and now has less free time to do things, hence the QoL improvements they are doing. Something like this is better done by the community running unofficial servers, because they're doing it as a hobby, rather than requiring a lot of payment to do it, and there can be a larger dev team involved.

They wont do it for 2 reasons:

1- It will cost them time and won't get any money for that

2- It will split an already low game population which will be VERY bad for the standard game

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Originally Posted by Spectreman

They wont do it for 2 reasons:

1- It will cost them time and won't get any money for that

2- It will split an already low game population which will be VERY bad for the standard game

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Money = possibly
Split a low game population = doubtful
Many left as is DUE to the fact abyssea and the aftermath was introduced including myself. It's a possibility a server of the original layout of ffxi would attract many players back seeing as I myself have spoken to many people who all agree they wish FFXI had not changed post 75

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Originally Posted by Spectreman

They wont do it for 2 reasons:

1- It will cost them time and won't get any money for that

2- It will split an already low game population which will be VERY bad for the standard game

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Originally Posted by bungiefanNA

Between the low population now, and the cost of maintaining two different forks of the game (because new bugs will be found in that seperate server version), that's a very large risk, with the resources we have now. They're already accellerated to monthly patches, versus the 3-4 a year they were doing before Abyssea, and with fewer staff to do so. It would harm the more populated version of the game to do so. There's also concern that the current player base has aged on average, and now has less free time to do things, hence the QoL improvements they are doing. Something like this is better done by the community running unofficial servers, because they're doing it as a hobby, rather than requiring a lot of payment to do it, and there can be a larger dev team involved.

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And yet this was done with games in similar situations (most applicable to everquest) so it is obviously not something that is impossible. For the bugs, being that it would be using a previous or even current build of the game the bugs would be minimal. As for the age of the playerbase, a lot of people who played the game BACK THEN were in that age range and managed just fine so I am not sure why you would assume that matters especially since if they don't like it its only a server option?

Finally, in response to it getting them no money that is just flat out incorrect. If that were the case then why do we have patches? The mmo industry is a "service" industry and offering options such is this is a service that will help to keep players or bring back old players or even possibly bring in new players.

They can't use a current build, as they'd have to modify it to turn off a bunch of things (Abyssea, Adoulin, the QoL improvements in the past year, new job traits and abilities, NPCs related to level 76+ content), which would make a new build, which would have new bugs. Old builds have bugs they've fixed with more recent patches. Reverting to a previous build would reintroduce those bugs.

Also, the game client and server need to identify as matching versions. Notice that the test server required a seperate install.

It won't split the community, in fact, most CURRENT players are perfectly content with the CURRENT game. This is more of an opportunity to bring back players. If Everquest is any example to use, a time-locked/progression server is very successful. In fact, most the players that came back played on both the specific server type AND the normal servers. So it can actually grab more attention towards what SE is doing with the game. I also think "splitting" the currennt population is irrelevant considering content now and days is only done with 6 people. Anyways, the idea of a server like this is great, one issue with receiving feedback for it though is the people who would love this server aren't around these forums. Which actually leads into another issue, SE would have to do some type of promotion to "experience FFXI during it's pinnacle" and crap like that.

The real issue is the money. If they invested time to do something like this, would they make a profit? From 2 different experiences, I personally believe so, RO's progression server, and EQs progression server were both examples of success. Do I think it could work for FFXI? Definitely, matter of fact, I'm willing to bet with the current state of a lot of the players in FFXIV feel like they have nothing to do, might jump at the opportunity to play FFXI during the beginning eras again during their downtime in 14 (promotion example).

Ultimately, I would love a server like this. I feel SE could make it a success. Will they do it though? Really hard to say, maybe they have something in the works. I mean look at all the campaigning they do to bring back players already, what's to say something like this isn't already on the agenda?

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Originally Posted by bungiefanNA

They can't use a current build, as they'd have to modify it to turn off a bunch of things (Abyssea, Adoulin, the QoL improvements in the past year, new job traits and abilities, NPCs related to level 76+ content), which would make a new build, which would have new bugs. Old builds have bugs they've fixed with more recent patches. Reverting to a previous build would reintroduce those bugs.

Also, the game client and server need to identify as matching versions. Notice that the test server required a seperate install.

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Do you really think that they don't have back ups of older versions? The only real issue is making sure older versions are compatible with windows 7/8. Companies, and people in general don't just throw out old stuff. Even more so, anyone that programs can tell you this especially in this kind of field. You think lawyers would get done with a lawsuit and just throw away everything relevant to that case? It's a way of life, almost like writing in a journal or something. There is some valid arguments to why SE shouldn't do this, but I guarantee what you are saying isn't one of them.

Better way to explain it. SE makes older version of FFXI compatible with current operating systems. SE just re-implements everything that wait for it......... already exists.

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Originally Posted by bungiefanNA

They can't use a current build, as they'd have to modify it to turn off a bunch of things (Abyssea, Adoulin, the QoL improvements in the past year, new job traits and abilities, NPCs related to level 76+ content), which would make a new build, which would have new bugs. Old builds have bugs they've fixed with more recent patches. Reverting to a previous build would reintroduce those bugs.

Also, the game client and server need to identify as matching versions. Notice that the test server required a seperate install.

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Note again that this has been done with games in a similar situation (everquest is even older than ffxi) so its definitely possible. Further, please stop speaking as to the developers limitations as I highly doubt you or anyone in here knows the details of them. If you're wrong about the developers limitations then you are just spreading useless misinformation, if you are right about them then we still end up with nothing because it is unconfirmed. Let the devs speak for themselves should they choose to, its not your responsibility as a member of the community to do so.

I don't know, I would prefer the devs' limited time and resources be put into the mainstream FFXI.

They probably do have the old versions' archives but it's not as simple as just throwing it on some server somewhere. People will still expect support, and if it catches on they'll want seasonal events and other content ported to it... And isn't there a lot of long term progression goals in FFXI right now for people that want to do that kind of thing?

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Originally Posted by Ris

I don't know, I would prefer the devs' limited time and resources be put into the mainstream FFXI.

They probably do have the old versions' archives but it's not as simple as just throwing it on some server somewhere. People will still expect support, and if it catches on they'll want seasonal events and other content ported to it... And isn't there a lot of long term progression goals in FFXI right now for people that want to do that kind of thing?

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As stated above, refrain from assuming the devs do not have the resources for the project as none of us know exactly what resources they have available. It would probably be better to state something like "I'm not against it as long as it doesn't interfere with the main version of the game." as that states your position while still holding the provision of 'don't do it if the cost is too great'.

As for the second statement, FFXI right now is a very different kind of game from the final fantasy of old. Long term progression or not it isn't offering the experience that I expect from FFXI, and there are others who share this view. Not to condemn current FFXI if you like it, but its not the game I loved for many years.

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Originally Posted by Ris

I don't know, I would prefer the devs' limited time and resources be put into the mainstream FFXI.

They probably do have the old versions' archives but it's not as simple as just throwing it on some server somewhere. People will still expect support, and if it catches on they'll want seasonal events and other content ported to it... And isn't there a lot of long term progression goals in FFXI right now for people that want to do that kind of thing?

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This is the biggest issue I see. Would releasing said servers prevent resources from being put into mainstream FFXI? This isn't really something we can answer, because we don't really know. Like I pointed out in previous comments though, you can use what we do know from other games that have done some type of suggested server for a basis. I feel it wouldn't, because if these servers were successful, it would allow the resources to use people specifically for those servers rather than using current staff. Now, that isn't to say SE would do that, and in fact it would probably be smarter to not do that since everything is already in place if some sort of "back ups" really do exist. All they basically need to do is flip a switch. It may come with bugs which is another story, but that is also under the assumption that those bugs didn't already have some sort of fix already. Since we live in a different era though with different operating systems etc. It would be safe to assume that something may be possibly bugged, though there also exists the chance that it's not. Considering though that FFXI is still alive and going, if something WAS bugged, the fixes would be phenomenally faster since there is a version of FFXI that already doesn't have said bugs.

Also, stuff like GMs and things use to be volunteered. I don't know if that is the case anymore, and don't really care to find out, but if that is still the case, even GM activity is void. Seasonal events? How is that even an issue, most the seasonal events existed back in the days that exist now, your saying it would be harder to give said server a Christmas event over normal servers?

Long term progression goals? I don't quite understand what you mean by this. Are you referring that people can create basically their own progression LS? If so, that is possible in a game like FFXI since nothing has been removed (well besides things like not being forced to lvl down for certain content which makes certain things basically impossible to relive), but it's just different. It's really hard to explain, and different for every person. For me, a big problem is not everyone else around me is doing the same thing, so it ruins my experience, almost like whats the point. Also, given the choice, I would rather take the easier route than make my life harder. The game, although content still exists, has significantly changed, from certain unique NMs have significantly reduced spawn timers, and exp rates through the roof, even just grinding mobs, 25% increased base movement etc. A lot of that stuff can't just be removed trying to create your own time-locked expansion LS or something.

I think a couple of the issues I do have that if something like this were to happen, there needs to be better measures in place for RMT and claim bots. Those were absolutely out of hand, and that is also something that has been huge on games that have done progression servers, RMT work their magic on them so fast.

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Originally Posted by Natasha

As stated above, refrain from assuming the devs do not have the resources for the project as none of us know exactly what resources they have available. It would probably be better to state something like "I'm not against it as long as it doesn't interfere with the main version of the game."

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I guess I can't really complain when you say it like that, but even if the cost is small... I don't mean that they don't have the resources, but I do think that those resources would come out of FFXI's total budget. Like they're not going to hire anyone new for it...

So my feedback to the devs is please keep focusing on the mainstream game (unless you could hire someone new to work on side projects that don't add to the main game).

It may bring ppl back so it may be worth the money.

All I know is nearly our entire ls quit the game after abyssea was released and things like dynamis were destroyed. And since Adoulin/ARR the population seems to be dwindling all the more. Maybe a good ol reset on a single server would be a good choice.

I doubt SE still has the old code to roll back to. They would essentially have to rewrite the whole thing, thus creating a new game, and I doubt they have the staff or enough interest in doing such a project.

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I think a couple of the issues I do have that if something like this were to happen, there needs to be better measures in place for RMT and claim bots. Those were absolutely out of hand, and that is also something that has been huge on games that have done progression servers, RMT work their magic on them so fast.

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One such game got around that hurdle by blocking out China ISPs. Cut the amount of RMT activity by a lot.

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Originally Posted by nekrothing

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/05...rver-detailed/

Lineage 2 is currently in the process of launching three subscription-based hybrid-classic servers

Now, how is this relevant? For quite some time, there are those who have hoped that Square would release some sort of classic server for FFXI. With the recent influx of players, the aging Lineage 2 has proved that it might be worthwhile for Square to test the waters with their own hybrid-classic server. If it'll revitalize the population and bring people back, having some sort "PTS-Classic Server" to gauge the interest wouldn't be a bad idea.

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Apparently lineage 2 is also going to be hosting a classic server of sorts, lets not miss out on this SE.

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Originally Posted by Natasha

Apparently lineage 2 is also going to be hosting a classic server of sorts, lets not miss out on this SE.

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Here are some more links highlighting the success of these classic servers:

Second classic server launched, with international ones being considered: http://2p.com/6773375_1/Innova-wants...by-Apophis.htm

Third classic server launched: http://i.imgur.com/e2zryGU.jpg

EU classic server confirmed: http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic....art=350#p27507

NA classic server being considered: http://s16.postimg.org/ce6zleln9/Dear_NCsoft.png

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Originally Posted by nekrothing

Here are some more links highlighting

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Thanks for hopping over, even though I broke the news a bit early. xD

Wasn't sure if you would or not.

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Originally Posted by PlumbGame

Do you really think that they don't have back ups of older versions?

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You really think Square Enix is keeping backups of 6+ year old game data for no reason other than possibly appeasing some handful of people who can't stop living in the past?

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Originally Posted by Zarchery

You really think Square Enix is keeping backups of 6+ year old game data for no reason other than possibly appeasing some handful of people who can't stop living in the past?

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You think everquest, and lineage and runescape did? Yup, I don't know why you find this to be such an impossible feat when its already been done with other mmos. Do we know for sure they have them? Nope, but if they don't SE can tell us that, not players.

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Originally Posted by Zarchery

You really think Square Enix is keeping backups of 6+ year old game data for no reason other than possibly appeasing some handful of people who can't stop living in the past?

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You would be surprised for the reasons old data is kept as far as im concerned as long as it doesnt affect those in favor of this new ffxi isnt a reason to be against it so would really be nice for you to X this "handful of people living in the past" all it reminds me of are those on the FFXIV forums blabbing about "go back to ffxi if you want ffxi things in ffxiv"

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Originally Posted by Natasha

Thanks for hopping over, even though I broke the news a bit early. xD

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No worries! The more exposure this gets, the better.

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Originally Posted by Zarchery

You really think Square Enix is keeping backups of 6+ year old game data for no reason other than possibly appeasing some handful of people who can't stop living in the past?

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You really assume people just throw away stuff like this? You seriously think a professional company like SE wouldn't have back ups of EVERYTHING they have? How do you think ports for other devices happen so easily? You think stuff like Chrono Trigger was rebuilt from the ground up? Even more, do you know anything about programming, or any profession at all? Give examples I gave earlier, people don't just call it a day and throw out anything old or not relevant to current projects.

With the fact that this is far from the first post on this subject, I wonder if the reps have taken this back to the devs and if they even for a moment stopped to consider it or even have their finance ppl take a look to see if it would be feasible.

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Originally Posted by Natasha

Hello, this is a thread intended for direct feedback to the devs/community team (as there is no way that I am aware of to send feedback directly) not meant to be a topic of debate.

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Too bad :D

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I would like to request that, if possible, the devs make available one FFXI server that is set to an earlier patch date. Specifically, the furthest along patch when the level cap was 75 before the addition of the back to back repeatable grounds of valor/fields of valor (as book burns are against the idea of the 'classic' experience).

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But for realsies, theres a very low chance, probably the ballpark chance of 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%, that SE will ever release a "Final Fantasy XI Classic!" server. But ya know, probability and such, I'm sure theres a universe out there that has a FFXI classic server officialy sanctioned by SE, but you'll probably have more luck inventing a machine that lets you travel to alternate realities, finding the one with the FFXI Classic server, killing your duplicate and taking over their life, than you do of SE releasing a FFXI Classic server.

However, in the interest of helping you, you can actually find a good deal of "Private" servers that have stuff like this. Swing over to BG and check out their FFXI section, theres a few there that let you do this. some of them are kinda popular too.

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note: Please stop speaking as to the developers limitations as I highly doubt you or anyone in here knows the details of them. If you're wrong about the developers limitations then you are just spreading useless misinformation, if you are right about them then we still end up with nothing because it is unconfirmed and unofficial. Let the devs speak for themselves should they choose to, its not your responsibility as a member of the community to do so.

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Ha... hahaha... ha... my lungs are bleeding after this.

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Originally Posted by Elphy

With the fact that this is far from the first post on this subject, I wonder if the reps have taken this back to the devs and if they even for a moment stopped to consider it or even have their finance ppl take a look to see if it would be feasible.

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One can only hope we can get a community rep to come in and give a clear yes or no on the issue.

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

But for realsies, theres a very low chance

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Nothing wrong with trying is there?

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

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Likes are a good way to draw attention and thats exactly what I wan't to do, draw a community rep or dev reply.

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

Too bad :D

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Ha... hahaha... ha... my lungs are bleeding after this.

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Seems players like you are just out to stop any possible chance of things such as a classic server from happening, i mean seriously what do people like you (those who enjoy current ffxi) lose from SE actually creating a server for those who prefer the old classic ffxi? IMO all you types just hop on here just to mock others and dont really post anything worth while.

I'd agree with this only if no server transfers were allowed to it. It'd be unfair to be able to bring in a character fully grinded through the post-abyssea exploits. All back to level 1, people.

first i'd like to say, i posted a thread just like this a few weeks back and didn't get any good feedback, but i am excited to see more people agree , i knew there was more people out there who wanted this! this idea is perfect and i support it 100%, we need SE to hear us! idk how to do that exactly but if you create a petition or anything like that, let me know i will support it and my friends will too

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Originally Posted by PlumbGame

You really assume people just throw away stuff like this? You seriously think a professional company like SE wouldn't have back ups of EVERYTHING they have? How do you think ports for other devices happen so easily? You think stuff like Chrono Trigger was rebuilt from the ground up? Even more, do you know anything about programming, or any profession at all? Give examples I gave earlier, people don't just call it a day and throw out anything old or not relevant to current projects.

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Chrono Trigger was a static RPG. When it was released on SNES, there was one version. FFXI is a dynamic MMORPG with dozens and dozens of versions over 10+ years. My assumption is that server space is finite and they wouldn't hoard every version of every update forever.

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Originally Posted by Zarchery

Chrono Trigger was a static RPG. When it was released on SNES, there was one version. FFXI is a dynamic MMORPG with dozens and dozens of versions over 10+ years. My assumption is that server space is finite and they wouldn't hoard every version of every update forever.

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What? I can drive down to walmart and buy a hard drive to back up everything on my computer, but SE doesn't have the capabilities of doing something similar?

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

Too bad :D



But for realsies, theres a very low chance, probably the ballpark chance of 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%, that SE will ever release a "Final Fantasy XI Classic!" server. But ya know, probability and such, I'm sure theres a universe out there that has a FFXI classic server officialy sanctioned by SE, but you'll probably have more luck inventing a machine that lets you travel to alternate realities, finding the one with the FFXI Classic server, killing your duplicate and taking over their life, than you do of SE releasing a FFXI Classic server.

However, in the interest of helping you, you can actually find a good deal of "Private" servers that have stuff like this. Swing over to BG and check out their FFXI section, theres a few there that let you do this. some of them are kinda popular too.



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Ha... hahaha... ha... my lungs are bleeding after this.

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What? Do I just laugh at this post? I think that's the point of a post like this right? Even more so, what was mentioned in this post, anyone with half a brain knows those things you mention aren't even close to the classic experience, let alone fully functional.

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Originally Posted by PlumbGame

What? I can drive down to walmart and buy a hard drive to back up everything on my computer, but SE doesn't have the capabilities of doing something similar?

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There are no Walmarts in Japan. But that is not even the point they have this awesome tech district in Toyko called Shinjiku that has aweosme electronics stores, but that is not the point.
Servers don't just operate like your home PC. they are a little bit more touche and temperamental. You can't just go buy a one terabite drive and stick it in. Most servers for things like MMOs are part of huge farms that the parent company uses for their whole company. So it is not just oh this one server is for FFXI. Server is a subjective term for allocated area of space for a program that allows others access.
I mentioned in the other post that if you look hard enough you will find plenty of "classic" privet servers. But SE has been cracking down on them hard lately. Which is absolutely silly if the PS was not charging money. I'm sure there are still some out there somewhere.