Wow, there is only me in South Gustaberg

Never imagined that could happen... maybe it's time for a server merge. How new players will find any fun in the game without people to play with?

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Originally Posted by Spectreman

Never imagined that could happen... maybe it's time for a server merge. How new players will find any fun in the game without people to play with?

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It's just not that type of game anymore. If there were 10 lowbies in South gusta, it would be annoying because everyone would have their trusts out competing with each other for mobs to kill. The bulk of the population is doing endgame stuff, and those that are new have reasonable tools now to get to endgame on their own. I know it sucks, but welcome to MMO's in 2014. SE had to adapt or die with this game.

Merge w/ Sylph and I'll come join you

Being alone in a starting zone is nice at times.

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Originally Posted by Lithera

Being alone in a starting zone is nice at times.

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It can also make it hard to get started. My head's above water, but might not be if I hadn't been lucky enough to meet a helpful person. Now 10 trust parties in a zone might be bad, but without going to that extreme... I don't think it would be bad to see signs of intelligent life occasionally.

How is it hard to get started? You can practically solo to 99 with trusts and doing nothing else lol.

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Originally Posted by Draylo

How is it hard to get started? You can practically solo to 99 with trusts and doing nothing else lol.

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If you know trusts exists, and eminence exists, and those field manual thingies exist, and why you're not getting more spells than the one you started with when you level, and so on.

I mean getting starting in the game from level 1~5 or so, not grinding up to endgame fast. A new person in the LS I joined couldn't even figure out how to logout (And I know I had that same issue when I started over a decade ago, but fortunately I remembered when I returned XD).

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Originally Posted by Zarchery

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Originally Posted by Ramzi

It's just not that type of game anymore. If there were 10 lowbies in South gusta, it would be annoying because everyone would have their trusts out competing with each other for mobs to kill. The bulk of the population is doing endgame stuff, and those that are new have reasonable tools now to get to endgame on their own. I know it sucks, but welcome to MMO's in 2014. SE had to adapt or die with this game.

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Being alone in a starting zone is nice at times.

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Originally Posted by Draylo

How is it hard to get started? You can practically solo to 99 with trusts and doing nothing else lol.

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I remember when FFXI was touted as having one of the friendliest, most welcoming, and most helpful communities among MMOs. I doubt anyone would believe that today.

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Originally Posted by Camiie

I remember when FFXI was touted as having one of the friendliest, most welcoming, and most helpful communities among MMOs. I doubt anyone would believe that today.

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I don't know. Coming back to the game, pretty much starting new because I don't remember much of anything from the game nearly a decade ago... people have been very friendly and welcoming so far. The problem, at least for me, is (was) just getting in touch in the first place. And before I made those friends, figuring out what to do to get started.

That's my perspective anyway...^^;

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Originally Posted by Camiie

I remember when FFXI was touted as having one of the friendliest, most welcoming, and most helpful communities among MMOs. I doubt anyone would believe that today.

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I remember when all your posts weren't negative towards FFXI, oh wait no I don't. Why are you subbed again?

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Originally Posted by Camiie

I remember when FFXI was touted as having one of the friendliest, most welcoming, and most helpful communities among MMOs. I doubt anyone would believe that today.

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Think what you want. I still lend a hand to people who are polite, and friendly. It's still a better community than many other MMO's.

A while back I picked up EVE and one of the most enjoyable features in that game was the rookie chat channel. When you start the game anew you are automatically in the rookiechat where all the new players are and some veteran moderators. Those vets can then answer all the questions for the new people (and most importantly, the new players immediatley have a social feel for the game). After a month you get booted from that channel and have to figure it out on your own.
Of course EVE only has one server so it different for XI, but this might be a way to fix the problems that new people have.
I dont know much about servers and computers but isnt it possible to have a chatchannel that merges all new players on every server?

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Originally Posted by Draylo

I remember when all your posts weren't negative towards FFXI, oh wait no I don't. Why are you subbed again?

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Why are you following all my posts? Creepy...
Anyway I wasn't being negative toward FFXI. I was being negative toward YOU. So now you have a post that wasn't negative toward FFXI.

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Originally Posted by vienne

A while back I picked up EVE and one of the most enjoyable features in that game was the rookie chat channel. When you start the game anew you are automatically in the rookiechat where all the new players are and some veteran moderators. Those vets can then answer all the questions for the new people (and most importantly, the new players immediatley have a social feel for the game). After a month you get booted from that channel and have to figure it out on your own.
Of course EVE only has one server so it different for XI, but this might be a way to fix the problems that new people have.
I dont know much about servers and computers but isnt it possible to have a chatchannel that merges all new players on every server?

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That's actually a pretty cool idea although I'm sure the devs will come up with some excuse why it can't or won't be done.

It just seems like all players care about these days is protecting their own private XP/farming spots and having instant access to whatever battlefield they've chosen that day. They don't ever want to have to put up with a new player, or really anyone who's outside their little circle of friends, in any of their daily activities.

They don't want more than a couple hundred people on a server that used to hold thousands. They don't want a healthy, growing community rife with hungry, wide-eyed newcomers. They just want kids to stay off their lawn... Even though it's not their lawn at all...

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It just seems like all players care about these days is protecting their own private XP/farming spots and having instant access to whatever battlefield they've chosen that day. They don't ever want to have to put up with a new player, or really anyone who's outside their little circle of friends, in any of their daily activities.

They don't want more than a couple hundred people on a server that used to hold thousands. They don't want a healthy, growing community rife with hungry, wide-eyed newcomers. They just want kids to stay off their lawn... Even though it's not their lawn at all...

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My post was just because I'm sick for the 400 "server merge plz" posts that pop up every damn week. Server merges aren't gonna solve a damn thing but people keep trotting out this obnoxious trope like it's the obvious panacea to their problems.

Server populations through merges have absolutely nothing to do with the volume of new players. That's why this particular "server merge plz" thread is particularly dumb.

I leveled a bunch of jobs from 1 to 30 about 4 years ago because I wanted the job emotes. Each time I spent probably 90 minutes max in the 1-10 range in a starter zone. South Gustaberg is 1 of 3. Server merge isn't going to magically make hordes of people spend all their time in a starter zone with an activity that takes an hour and a half. Even back in the old days the starter zones were usually pretty sparse and people didn't team up to XP.

Also my post was partly about the rare times you do see others out with their trusts and you're trying to complete your page but everyone is doing the same blasted page as you so you have to wait.

Or if you're leveling blue mage and are semi afk while worms whack away at you and someone robs one cause it it turned yellow because it's hp is so low that if you sneezed on it it would die. Or they cure you cause they think your lv 18 is going to die sometime soon.

Or maybe you get cured while trying to death warp and you get cured or people try to save you and they kill your monsters. Then there was the fun times trying to down a metal slime or laying claim to one during the 2nd DQX event.

So yes it can be nice to be the only one or almost only one in the starter zones.

It's not like I'm going omg there is too many people camping VE why is it that every time I'm trying to get a hairpin everyone and their uncle is out in dunes waiting for its spawn time SE should make it into a popped NM instead.

I will often choose the super-EP mobs option for my timed species RoE challenge, because I'm in a hurry. A lot of times I will do those challenges on the stronger mob in Seekers, but when I'm in a hurry I just go spank the old areas EP mobs because I can clear 20/20 in short time. There are always people at every location, they never team up despite all of us target the same handful of mobs, everyone is solo "army of one" with trust trains scurrying along behind them. They often don't answer tells about "team up?" and will often voke second mobs off you if you have mob plus link.
Back when magians were the swinging thing, everyone always teamed up for species trials, <That way.> everyone got their points and there wasn't any stress. But things seemed to have changed and now I see people competing over the weakest bunnies and lizards for their RoE points lol. So I don't think that situation would improve if there were server merge.

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Originally Posted by Camiie

I remember when FFXI was touted as having one of the friendliest, most welcoming, and most helpful communities among MMOs. I doubt anyone would believe that today.

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To be fair though, unlike the XIV community, a lot of people don't act like they sat on a pike just at the mere mention of an MMOs name or a "silly question", so I think some would still believe it.