"SpellSet" System For Bluemage Spell Sets: {Can I have it?} *Community Reps? Devs?*

"Equipset" is great! twenty is not enough as I am sure you are aware.

Can we expand on the "Equipset" system and develop a "Spellset" system that works the same way for Blue Mage Spell Sets?

I personally find determining the spell combos that I like for each instance I play the job (per situation, i.e main/sub/VW/abby/etc.) as a complete time drain and is (for me) the main reason I don't play it as much as I used to. The fact that if I spend the time setting spells as a procing blue in VW, then use blue as a subjob, then want to go back to VW to only see that the system didn't remember half my VW spell set is a turn off to utilization for me personally.

How difficult would it be to execute this and how long would it take if considered?

Thanks,
Regards!

Yes PLEASE!

Bump.
{/cheer}

Bump
/cheer

That would be great. I don't play BLU often, and find myself not as apt to change out my spell set even though that's the way it's meant to adapt. It's just an aggravation to have to tell people to wait (like changing out procs) and having to keep lists of what spell set for what sub and event.

This would be great.

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Originally Posted by Mitruya

That would be great. I don't play BLU often, and find myself not as apt to change out my spell set even though that's the way it's meant to adapt. It's just an aggravation to have to tell people to wait (like changing out procs) and having to keep lists of what spell set for what sub and event.

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Im telling ya!! I don't know how many list I have misplaced with blu spells sets on them. I feel that it should be self contained within the game, like macros etc.

another bump!
we need more likes to get this noticed by the dev team too :3

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Originally Posted by Rubicant82

another bump!
we need more likes to get this noticed by the dev team too :3

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Meh, I guess people like manually setting spells for 20 minutes lol. Or no one is really playing Blu. Hmmm...
In anycase...... {BUMP}

The dev team currently has other tasks that are higher on the priority list, so adding this feature would be difficult at this time. We have received similar requests from other jobs, such as puppetmaster, but it is difficult to create a system that would only benefit a single job, where in comparison the gear set system benefits all players. At this time there are no plans for a spell set feature.

I don't even have BLU unlocked and I support this.

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

The dev team currently has other tasks that are higher on the priority list, so adding this feature would be difficult at this time. We have received similar requests from other jobs, such as puppetmaster, but it is difficult to create a system that would only benefit a single job, where in comparison the gear set system benefits all players. At this time there are no plans for a spell set feature.

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Thank you for the response.

Ok, I understand the priority list. You did say difficult at this time, so that leads me to believe its schedule more than ability that is deterrent to implementation. I can understand that.

But there has to be a way to help this cause for the people that want to play blue more. Here is an idea:

In the blue menu the devs have already implemented a classification system for blue mage spells. Much of it is a repeat of information that can be found on the spell description itself. I personally never utilize the "Type"classification system that is already in place. I am able to read the spell description and get all the info that I need without it (type, strong to which type monster, magic based, physical etc.). Lets change that classification from a system define classification to a user defined classification. This section seems to be (Is) implemented in reverse of the newly implemented "setequip" feature. I am saying reverse the links and allow the user to define those links to the spell and then the user could just sort spells utilizing the structure that's already there. Of course we would like to rename the fields but generic labels will do. This will not be brand new implementation as the space is there, the structure is already there, privileges have to change, the linking has to be reversed, user right have to given, etc. The current structure will reduce dev time and actually allow the change to be implemented, tested and release within a release cycle. I know the devs are using flexible architecture so much of this will be copy/paste with respect to linking and rights since it is basically the same sub system frame as the "equipset system" with different settings. If we could save the settings like you save macro settings then there would be very little impact on the server side, besides user initiated saves.

So timing maybe bad, yes I can understand that, but this shouldn't be a big implementation based of the fact that basic structure it is being leveraged in reverse by the "equipset" subsystem. Its is difficult to see this taking a mountain of time to provide.

How do we get this on the "to-do" list?


I don't know who in there right mind would "like" that response appreciate it "yes", like it "No!"

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

The dev team currently has other tasks that are higher on the priority list, so adding this feature would be difficult at this time. We have received similar requests from other jobs, such as puppetmaster, but it is difficult to create a system that would only benefit a single job, where in comparison the gear set system benefits all players. At this time there are no plans for a spell set feature.

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Yeah wouldn't want something like a Weaponskill update that only benefits SAM or something...

:P

The team had been looking into a system similar to equipment sets for blue magic spells; however they discovered that there are too many technical hurdles to overcome and as such there are no plans at the moment to develop this feature.

For the future, the development team is looking into a system that will not remove the blue magic spells you've set when you are placed under level restrictions.

Currently, the team is focused on system-related additions and adjustments for the chat features and a finished version of the /lockstyle feature, so once this has been completed they will shift their focus.

Grekumah, thank you for letting us know but please let the dev team know how disappointing this response really is.

As someone who used to bring my blu to events, it was very frustrating needing to switch out a range of spells as needs changed during an event - I literally kept a spreadsheet so I could make sure I equipped the right spells for the right macrosets I was using. Blue mage SpellSets should be a priority, regardless of the technical difficulties.

If blue magic could be set with a command, that would even make a world of difference. Would that be easier to do as a temporary fix, until a SpellSet can be developed?

/unequipspell "wild carrot"
/equipspell "cocoon"

This is off-topic, but I couldn't help but notice the "finished version of /lockstyle" part of that post. Are they finally going to make it to where it stays on after zoning and whatnot? I haven't been around much so I'm way out of the loop.

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Originally Posted by Seillan

This is off-topic, but I couldn't help but notice the "finished version of /lockstyle" part of that post. Are they finally going to make it to where it stays on after zoning and whatnot? I haven't been around much so I'm way out of the loop.

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This is the first time they've mentioned it.

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Originally Posted by Catmato

This is the first time they've mentioned it.

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They actually mentioned one aspect of it back at it's inception; working for weapons of the same type. Staying on through zoning and other functions could be included as well. I'd hope for a function to not blink even if you change weapons types as long as you're not engaged since mages commonly swap between staffs and clubs.

It's pretty useless for mages atm, so hopefully they work around lockstyle with changing weapons

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

The team had been looking into a system similar to equipment sets for blue magic spells; however they discovered that there are too many technical hurdles to overcome and as such there are no plans at the moment to develop this feature.

For the future, the development team is looking into a system that will not remove the blue magic spells you've set when you are placed under level restrictions.

Currently, the team is focused on system-related additions and adjustments for the chat features and a finished version of the /lockstyle feature, so once this has been completed they will shift their focus.

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I understand the priority to focus on enhancements that will affect more players (as I imagine the amount of blue mages is a fraction of the community), but please still consider blue mage sets!

With all of the new spells I'm finding myself clicking remove all more than ever depending on the content I'm doing. I tried a CoP Dynamis last night on blue mage and set a lot of newer spells exclusively for the job traits, and it was great for that but totally impractical for newer content which requires a vastly different setup.

Blue Mage sets would be a much welcome feature!