Why we cant Jump in this game?

seen mamool ja do it with warm up how come we cant jump? please dont say "LOL this is not WOW" i think part of WOW success if the freedom you get when controlling your character

Cause it would be too much work for little benefit, they would have to redo all the maps coding for every zone.

White Humes can't jump.


Duh.

DRG says hi.

Death to all PS2's

Getting stuck on stuff would be easily avoidable regardless of jumping or not, and it would be impossible for the PS2 to be limiting it.

Have you tried walking in 80 lbs of metal, let alone jump? I've worn 60lbs of leather armor. Jumping and swimming is not natural.

ooo this old argument -.-

On the player side, jumping is not needed, why add something that is not needed?
on the programing side, you can not just "add" jump, there is alot that has to be done in order to add it in at this point.

monks jump. tarus do backflips.
drg do jumps.
what more do you want?

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Originally Posted by hordecore

seen mamool ja do it with warm up how come we cant jump? please dont say "LOL this is not WOW" i think part of WOW success if the freedom you get when controlling your character

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What about Crash bandicoot? He was jumping before WOW.

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What does jumping contribute to any MMO aside from cheap entertainment?

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Originally Posted by Andylynn

What does jumping contribute to any MMO aside from cheap entertainment?

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Frustration, as everyone is constantly jumping everywhere.

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Originally Posted by Andylynn

What does jumping contribute to any MMO aside from cheap entertainment?

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Gets your past those 2 inch high bumps that you can't seem to walk over

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Originally Posted by rog

Frustration, as everyone is constantly jumping everywhere.

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There is another MMO called Perfect World which gives characters the equivalent of a moon jump. All it does is cause cowardice in open PVP. AKA frustration.

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Originally Posted by Andylynn

There is another MMO called Perfect World which gives characters the equivalent of a moon jump. All it does is cause cowardice in open PVP. AKA frustration.

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I played a game conquer online that was the same way. Running was entirely pointless, as jumping was 5x faster. You could jump all the way across the screen at once. it was really quite silly.

There's no real point to jumping. Those ledges and barriers that in real life we could jump over or at least climb up are designed to prevent players from going that way. Even if jumping had been implemented from the beginning, the designers would have simply made the barriers and ledges higher so you wouldn't be able to jump up to them anyway.

There are no rocks to jump across to traverse rivers, no outcrops of rock to climb up a cliff, no hidden zones or treasure by hopping onto a roof and crawling into some NPC's attic. The areas in the game were not made with that action in mind. You might as well ask to get the galka together to push that broken pillar off the stairs to Byakko, rob the shopkeepers or guild merchants, or shoot down airships with BLM spells when you're bored. Fun though they may be.

This is not to say getting a /jump animation is out of the question, but an animation is all it would be. From the game's perspective you would still be rooted to the ground and unable to hop over a discarded napkin.

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Originally Posted by Andylynn

What does jumping contribute to any MMO aside from cheap entertainment?

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Getting over ledges, rocks, other obstacles. Also lets you have boss mechanics where jumping is required. For example an Earth element boss might start casting an earthquake aoe ability and if you jump as the cast finishes you avoid damage.

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

ooo this old argument -.-

On the player side, jumping is not needed, why add something that is not needed?

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Those God-awful flights of steps in Ordelle's would like a word with you. :)

I agree, jumping has it problems, it allows retards to jump around like a 5-year-old on a bouncy ball in areas like the AH, and other popular gathering places, I so hate places like Orgrimmar in WOW and 21st Hall in LoTR:O for that.

OTOH, I disagree it's "not needed", much of the terrain in the game is low steps which even a Taru could jump up, let alone the other races.

I always find myself frustrated when I come back to FFXI .. the MMO I sill love above all the others I play .. due to the tedious running around stupidly low ledges in places like La Theine and the like.

Its not like they can have a full 3d world now like current gen MMOs where you can fly around go to different areas ect. Assuming PS2 limitations on this one.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Getting over ledges, rocks, other obstacles. Also lets you have boss mechanics where jumping is required. For example an Earth element boss might start casting an earthquake aoe ability and if you jump as the cast finishes you avoid damage.

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Not entirely sure why you'd care for such a thing.

Stupid thread with a stupid question, if SE wanted to mimic other MMOs they would have. And other then traversing terrain jumping is pointless in FF11. It also defeats the purposes of the mechanisms SE placed in most zones to reach different parts of it.

SE would have more people glitching too.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Getting over ledges, rocks, other obstacles. Also lets you have boss mechanics where jumping is required. For example an Earth element boss might start casting an earthquake aoe ability and if you jump as the cast finishes you avoid damage.

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Last night I checked jumping wouldn't protect you from a earthquake lmao. If SE wanted to do that they couldnt just add the float spell.

next hel lwant a wetsuit so water doesnt hurt him..... we dont jump becase we dont need to jump. this ant tomb raider or zelda. this is FFXI !!!!

/kick

Why jump, when there are elevators, ramps, portals, and other such objects?

this isn't WoW... FF series never have jump com'on lol

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Originally Posted by Sama

this isn't WoW... FF series never have jump com'on lol

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x-2, and 13 did, silly.

Mario can jump.

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Originally Posted by Khajit

Mario can jump.

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Not a hume!

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Originally Posted by Sama

this isn't WoW... FF series never have jump com'on lol

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Thats untrue, Final Fantasy Mystic Quest had jumping.

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Originally Posted by Kimara

Thats untrue, Final Fantasy Mystic Quest had jumping.

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yeah and in Japan that game was called Final Fantasy USA -.-

It was labeled as "a dumbed down RPG for the American audience"

All of the Final Fantasy Tactics games have jumping of a sort, pretty sure there's even a Jump stat.

Leaping Boots will rise again!

Although it would take a lot of work on Se's side. I don't think there would be a problem with jumping, I'm not really for or against it. There is nothing in the game currently that I wish so badly I could jump over, that I can't just go around. I do think I would rather SE put adding jumping as a very low priority though, there's a lot of other things I'd rather see first.

Vertical movement is not necessary in any video game. Go back to QQing.

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Originally Posted by Deadvinta

Vertical movement is not necessary in any video game. Go back to QQing.

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What about the Descent series, or any flight-sim...?

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Originally Posted by hordecore

seen mamool ja do it with warm up how come we cant jump? please dont say "LOL this is not WOW" i think part of WOW success if the freedom you get when controlling your character

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Yeah I want to see everyone bunny hopping everywhere for no reason.

No thanks.

I wouldn't care if they let people jump in ffxi

that being said I would hope they concentrate on making lvl 99 content playable and fun instead of a jump feature

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Originally Posted by Andylynn

What does jumping contribute to any MMO aside from cheap entertainment?

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Jumping has many legitimate uses, especially in this game where every tiny little object seems to get in your way.

I really hate people using the excuse "people will jump around like idiots for no reason." The immaturity of a few people is not a good reason to not have a feature.

On a side note, in FFXIV they were considering adding jumping.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Jumping has many legitimate uses, especially in this game where every tiny little object seems to get in your way.

I really hate people using the excuse "people will jump around like idiots for no reason." The immaturity of a few people is not a good reason to not have a feature.

On a side note, in FFXIV they were considering adding jumping.

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It would be nice to get over some obstacles in the game.. like i always get stuck on the stairs in ordelle's cave and and the leujaoam sanctum assault zones.

I don't think it should be a priority right now.. especially with all the big changes they are making and with there not even being endgame content atm... I would hope they spend time on content instead of gimmicks like a jump feature.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

I really hate people using the excuse "people will jump around like idiots for no reason." The immaturity of a few people is not a good reason to not have a feature.

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Why do you assume only the immature will do so? While running around there is nothing else to do, and thus many people will simply tap the jump button repeatedly, to make it slightly less boring than running around would otherwise be.