So i leeched my job to 90 in abyssea

do i need to cap wind and string or only one of them should suffice?

No real need for string.

go and grind on thousands of birds to get skilful

I thought the brd empyrean was a stringed weapon..

I don't know how good it is though.. haven't bothered with brd in a while.

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

go and grind on thousands of birds to get skilful

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String is pretty worthless unless you plan on getting the emp instrument.

seems pretty worthless this point though.

string is also nice to have if in mage party while lacking that ballad horn. ( i think it is a wind?)

I'm 90 now so how do I play my job?


Sad state the game has sunken to.

ok see this is the crap I was talking about.........

Grinding the old way totally would've told him if he needed String at the end of his levelling.

a level 90 should not be asking this question, plain and simple.

So you know everything about all of your jobs, present and future?

If it was something like "do I need Victory March?" then yeah I'd agree but he's asking whether he needs to cap (ie use) String.

Better an Abyssean-bred Bard who asks basic questions than an "Old style" Trog who is determined to prove that "their way" is good.

Serious answer, Wind/Singing minimum. If you care enough or think you'll ever use a harp, you may as well skill wind to whatever Hpemdes cap at.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Better an Abyssean-bred Bard who asks basic questions than an "Old style" Trog who is determined to prove that "their way" is good.

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I'd value the opinions of someone who earned their job over anyone who leeched their job through Abyssea. Seriously, some of you apologists are just bending over backwards to justify doing things the easy way. Maybe the game is just too hard for some of you.

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Originally Posted by Tenshibaby

I'd value the opinions of someone who earned their job over anyone who leeched their job through Abyssea. Seriously, some of you apologists are just bending over backwards to justify doing things the easy way. Maybe the game is just too hard for some of you.

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Sorry, I value facts significantly more than opinions. Especially when the opinion is something like "I don't think Haste is worth using because I pull hate enough on my WAR with 5% haste"

I'll say it again. I'd rather have someone who doesn't know and asks questions than someone who thinks they know and refuses answers.

Hey guys, i'm a level 90 rdm, do i need to skill up my divine skill?

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Originally Posted by rog

Hey guys, i'm a level 90 rdm, do i need to skill up my divine skill?

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Duh. RDM/WHM Chainspell Flash for teh zergs.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Sorry, I value facts significantly more than opinions. Especially when the opinion is something like "I don't think Haste is worth using because I pull hate enough on my WAR with 5% haste"

I'll say it again. I'd rather have someone who doesn't know and asks questions than someone who thinks they know and refuses answers.

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True that. Like I say: someone who has an educated opinion is still stating just an opinion.

I'd say cap all your brd skills, get all available spells, then experiment with gear for whatever works best for you. You'll need to learn the job one way or another, so don't be shy to experiment as long as you aren't costing other people their time and effort doing it.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Duh. RDM/WHM Chainspell Flash for teh zergs.

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Ah, right. Thanks, didn't think of that. Brb leveling divine.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Sorry, I value facts significantly more than opinions. Especially when the opinion is something like "I don't think Haste is worth using because I pull hate enough on my WAR with 5% haste"

I'll say it again. I'd rather have someone who doesn't know and asks questions than someone who thinks they know and refuses answers.

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I dont know what you are referring too here, but facts over opinions? How is it an opinion that it is bad for a level 90 BRD to be asking this question?

I took my time to learn my jobs, the jobs I play I know how to use, am I the best? no, but I do not suck by any means. Over the years I have taken advice from others and read how other people play and adapt to my own. I wont listen to some one tell me how to play DRG or DNC, if they just leeched their way to 90, even though I am only 75 on both those jobs.
I admit I have some catching up to do for the year I was gone, but it does not involve being lazy. I will level my lv 75 jobs in the new areas as that is my next place to do so, and continue to read up on the new things, and work on my equipment.

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

I dont know what you are referring too here, but facts over opinions? How is it an opinion that it is bad for a level 90 BRD to be asking this question?

I took my time to learn my jobs, the jobs I play I know how to use, am I the best? no, but I do not suck by any means. Over the years I have taken advice from others and read how other people play and adapt to my own. I wont listen to some one tell me how to play DRG or DNC, if they just leeched their way to 90, even though I am only 75 on both those jobs.
I admit I have some catching up to do for the year I was gone, but it does not involve being lazy. I will level my lv 75 jobs in the new areas as that is my next place to do so, and continue to read up on the new things, and work on my equipment.

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I wasn't talking to you at all. Read the post I quoted in that post, and then read my post. They were talking about "The opinions of someone who earned their levels".

I could also care less how someone leveled. If they know what they're talking about, they know what they're talking about. If they don't, they don't. I Abyssea-burned RDM to 90 and I dare say I could give most "Career, earned-my-level" RDMs a lesson or twelve about the job.

I was a little confused about your post to be honest, I read what you had quoted and what you said, but was trying to figure out where you where pulling the thing about haste from -.-

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

I was a little confused about your post to be honest, I read what you had quoted and what you said, but was trying to figure out where you where pulling the thing about haste from -.-

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It's just an example of an "Opinion" I hear from "Players who earned their levels" all the time.

really? thats some bad stuff -.- wow 5% haste? really?

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

really? thats some bad stuff -.- wow 5% haste? really?

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Page 3+ of Frost's Haste Guide thread on here was a pretty prime example of the kind of thing I'm talking about. There are fairly good players who leveled and did missions the hard way and choose to be proud of it, but they are extremely few and far between. For the most part, when you see someone pulling the "Opinion" card, or the "Earn EXP because it's the real challenge in MMOs" card, they're typically the full aurore/perle type. That's not a jab at you, because I don't know you, it's just an incredibly common trend.

ah yeah I noticed that too, some of that armor is goo for just starting out at 75+ but even I know it has to go rather fast and I have only read up on it lol

Cap both.. its not like skilling up takes a long time any more...

Doesn't really matter anyways lol, this is a troll thread.

I leeched my nin in abyssea, and I'm far better than 90% of the other nins that I see. How you get to level 90 has no bearing on how well you play the job. It's all based on how willing you are to sit down, research, and learn how to play it.

where's your ffxiah avatar

is there something wrong with being in the full gear you can get from aby? I know there's better gear then it but a lot of gear requires a lot of time and effort to get. more then I want to vest in a game. I try to get the best gear I can off AH.

honestly, think of how much time you've saved leeching to 90. It took me months to get my first job to 75. So my suggestion? even if it takes forever to skill up, do it, and max it out. you already saved time leveling, might as well earn it by making sure you're skilled and know how to use your job

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

It's just an example of an "Opinion" I hear from "Players who earned their levels" all the time.

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Opinions become fact once passed through the magical incantation:

"I read somewhere that ______."

Once an opinion is read unchallenged, it's as good as fact.....

Leeching gives people with not much left to do...something to do and another job to grind out some gear on. I don't have a problem with leeching in itself really, I hate how the leeching system ruins the XP party system outside of Abyssea but thats something else.

String has a minor advantage in range for horde but you lose some accuracy, I only ever used it for the PUK ENM thingy cause I kept missing some of the puks using wind. Really there is no serious reason to bother with string and for gear I would go all out on magic acc/wind skill/singing skill cause all they are truely good for anymore is landing the correct threnody.

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Originally Posted by Kanjitai

is there something wrong with being in the full gear you can get from aby? I know there's better gear then it but a lot of gear requires a lot of time and effort to get. more then I want to vest in a game. I try to get the best gear I can off AH.

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Nothing wrong with full perle for new players. It's not great, but is acceptable for those without af3. The other two sets however are worthless as full sets (except precast teal for the fast cast), and under no circumstances is it ok to be wearing them.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

Leeching gives people with not much left to do...something to do and another job to grind out some gear on. I don't have a problem with leeching in itself really, I hate how the leeching system ruins the XP party system outside of Abyssea but thats something else.

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Abyssea leeching didn't ruin exping outside abyssea. People not wanting to exp outside abyssea ruined exping outside abyssea.

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

Grinding the old way totally would've told him if he needed String at the end of his levelling.

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Grinding the new way totally told me that it's ok to level RDM mostly nekkid since I'm Mithra. All I needed was my trusty Apollo's Staff, my type-casted cures and hastes, and the frosty Uleguerand breeze shooting up my Vermillion Cloak.

I find if you leech a job to 90, then go skill up for a day or 2 to cap stuff, then spend another day learning about the job by reading and asking questions, its much faster then then 'Exping the real way,' and it accomplishes the same thing. You should all stfu and be happy he's trying to learn the job instead of 'ZOMG YOU LEECHED TO 90 YOU FAIL'

wow...just freaking wow.

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Originally Posted by Eeek

Grinding the new way totally told me that it's ok to level RDM mostly nekkid since I'm Mithra. All I needed was my trusty Apollo's Staff, my type-casted cures and hastes, and the frosty Uleguerand breeze shooting up my Vermillion Cloak.

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just don't forget your Warlock's Tights!

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

mmmmm

just don't forget your Warlock's Tights!

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Subligaria or gtfo!