Make Umbral Marrow more available

Please make Vial Of Umbral Marrow drops accessible from something other than ADL.

I've been trying to find or build a party to farm ADL for 2+ years and have been unsuccessful. I've tried shouting in game, creating posts on various forums, and contacting people via guild sites. I even spent time watching the Dyna-Xarc zone to see when groups would enter and message them - but almost everyone has their own ADL static already, and don't need new players.

It's frustrating having two level 95 Relics that just get further and further behind - especially with the new Pluton stage.

I spent years farming Dynamis to make these lvl 95 weapons, and I don't think I can bear to go back in and grind hundreds of more runs just to get these to 99. I've already given up on the prospect of upgrading both my relics, and even focusing on one I'd be looking at a year of straight dynamis farming to get from 95 -> 119.

As disappointing the entire RME situation was, I re-sub in November thinking ilvl 119 relic might be something fun to work at. But right now, it took me roughly 2 months to acquire 20 plutons through Records of Eminence (averaging about 1 voucher a day with my play time), 0 marrows, and it's painfully slow and boring. Just farming the pluton via RoE for one of my relics will take about 28 more months. That still leaves marrows to obtain...

Please make the Umbral Marrows more accessible (more supply) now that that content is so far behind.

Yup adl still hits like a freight train and that before he splits, after its many trains

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Originally Posted by dragmagi

Yup adl still hits like a freight train and that before he splits, after its many trains

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The irony, is that I feel like the best chance at farming ADL was pre-SoA when more people were around. A lot of my contacts either quit from frustration of how RME were handled and/or left for FFXIV. I just hate thinking the only way for me to farm Marrows or Plutons is to go back to the painfully Stockholm-like grind that is dynamis coin farming. I did that for like 4 years, is there seriously no other option for me to progress my character but more grinding of the same exact content? I know some of you are going to say farm SoA, but I have had even less response from the community when trying to do Soa Content such as Delve farming. It literally feels impossible to progress outside of more coin farming. I can't be alone, or?

The funny thing is that I'd be willing to farm dynamis coins for marrows or plutons - but not both. It just seems like such a hopeless boring grind for the next months, one I've already done for years that netted me two outdated 95 relics. Such disappointment is really hard for me to express.

Should add marrows to login Campaign, any new RoE vouchers, and rank four or five bonanza prizes.

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Originally Posted by Mnejing

Should add marrows to login Campaign, any new RoE vouchers, and rank four or five bonanza prizes.

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I think the first two suggestions are good, and are ideas I've had myself. However I was a bit concerned to start offering suggestions as SE seems adverse to those (generally doing the opposite of what the foums ask for) so I thought I'd just state the problem and throw my coin in the wishing well. I have little hope this relic upgrade experience will be improved.

Reasonably, I wish they'd do something about marrows as well.... but... maybe just something as simple as no longer making ADL split... that way you still have to "earn" it, and it doesn't bunch everyone's undergarments.

Farm gil and buy my marrows from (my) bazaars, price dropped a lot they are only 7M and used to be 25 millions when they came out. You need to realise that you cannot do everything in the game without gil. There are plenty of ways to farm gil for soloers.

Honestly I am suprised they didn't make an alternate BC for Shadow Lord [S] simular to Odin II chamber. Were we could get slightly better versions of his gear or more parts for the set as well as Marrow. Or even add a way to get marrow from Diabolos v2 in Dynamis - Tavnazia since he's the final boss of the Nightmare Dynamis. If the four T2 nightmare versions of him are to easy then they could always add a ki to it. Then use it to summon a merged T3 Nightmare version of Diabolos or Perche or that other kid, or whoever is dreaming and filling it with nightmare feinds. Then they can add marrow drops like ADL, or even somthing more rare, that can be broken into several pieces (2~4) of marrow for those farming for afterglow.

Edit: On the side note of plutons.. take a small group of friends and farm easy T1 ~ T2 Delve nm's. Yes even the grass hopper can be low maned with 2 mnks, 1 thf, and 1 or 2 healers. Just keep one mnk on each side for max damage and let thf th with Sa or Ta to controll who has hate. That mob for example may take close to 20 min but you'll also get good odds with cases and other 119 items that can be sold. Infact any low group with Delve boss or RoE can easily take down the easier Delve pop nm's now. It just takes slightly longer than a full alliance in a fisure. You could spam wkr but Plu/Rif/Bet are not guaronteed in those.

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Originally Posted by Kote

Honestly I am suprised they didn't make an alternate BC for Shadow Lord [S] simular to Odin II chamber.

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From what I hear there is a Shadow Lord KI similar to the Ark Angel KIs we currently use, it just hasn't been released yet. I, and my source could be wrong however.

No and no. Farm gil and buy them.

I didn't have to involve a single other person for the 5 Umbral Marrows for my Spharai. They're not Ex, so I just bought them. Farming gil is a task you can solo with ease.

Umbral Marrows have actually been decreasing in price since the trials were released. They're down to 7 million from a high of 11 million.

Sorry, in the iLvl 119 era, ADL is extremely easy for six people. As others have pointed out, marrows are a fraction of the value they once were. There's noneed to further nerf marrow obtainabity. (This is coming from someone with a level 95 relic)

If you can, ask around, try to find a linkshell that farms ADL, see if you can join, just use some of your payout from ADL runs and such that you make money off of to buy them from the LS, some may even give you discounts since you're in the LS and actually helped to farm them in the first place. Thats how I got my marrows for Excalibur, I joined a Linkshell that does ADL 4 nights a week and used my money from 2 weeks of runs to buy my marrows.

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Originally Posted by Draylo

No and no. Farm gil and buy them.

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Yeah, seriously this.

coming from a person who hates the current dynamis lol proc system and has 3 relics (2 95 and 1 99 from linkshell)

farm salvage. it would be a change of pace and give you excess to more gear.

farm matamata. not really hard to do with a mnk or 2. although i dont see this as practical answer because emp and mythic currencies are rare so the need for them are low. which mean they would want to split plutons with you.

get better friends, server, contracts? or if you are contracting ppl, what are you holding them to? i dont see why anyone would not want to do adl. he is so easy nowadays and 5m a marrow on my server for 3 hours of work is nice.

Nah, playtime shouldn't be just dedicated to farming gil. It should be a time to enjoy the game with other people. There should be another alternative to farming marrows. Maybe make it part of RoE using vouchers. Maybe 40 vouchers gets you a marrow. It could be soloed but something that cannot be done in a week unlike farming ADL with a group would. If people choose to buy all their stuff either from bazaar or from mercs, that's up to them, but not many want to do that. Also, if you all you do is just farm gil in this game, it might be time to move on to something else.

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Originally Posted by Numquam

Maybe 40 vouchers gets you a marrow.

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I don't necessarily think this is a good idea, but I applaud you for actually using a semi-reasonable exchange rate. Where's that guy who wanted to trade 100 login points for a pouch of Heavy Metal Plates?

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Originally Posted by Renaissance2K

I don't necessarily think this is a good idea, but I applaud you for actually using a semi-reasonable exchange rate. Where's that guy who wanted to trade 100 login points for a pouch of Heavy Metal Plates?

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1000 points for a pouch would be better.

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But right now, it took me roughly 2 months to acquire 20 plutons through Records of Eminence (averaging about 1 voucher a day with my play time)

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RoE hasn't even been out for a full month. >_>

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Originally Posted by Numquam

Nah, playtime shouldn't be just dedicated to farming gil. It should be a time to enjoy the game with other people. There should be another alternative to farming marrows. Maybe make it part of RoE using vouchers. Maybe 40 vouchers gets you a marrow. It could be soloed but something that cannot be done in a week unlike farming ADL with a group would. If people choose to buy all their stuff either from bazaar or from mercs, that's up to them, but not many want to do that. Also, if you all you do is just farm gil in this game, it might be time to move on to something else.

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So farming marrows is any different than farming vouchers, or farming items to sell for gil? You're doing things to get drops either way. I don't see an effective difference in what you choose to farm, toher than how much gil you get back for your time farming.

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Originally Posted by Numquam

Nah, playtime shouldn't be just dedicated to farming gil. It should be a time to enjoy the game with other people. There should be another alternative to farming marrows. Maybe make it part of RoE using vouchers. Maybe 40 vouchers gets you a marrow. It could be soloed but something that cannot be done in a week unlike farming ADL with a group would. If people choose to buy all their stuff either from bazaar or from mercs, that's up to them, but not many want to do that. Also, if you all you do is just farm gil in this game, it might be time to move on to something else.

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Who says that farming gil can't be done with others/your friends? AA's are a good example. We XP together, farm up 5 pops and 30 merits, and go fight the AA's for plutons to sell. All of this is done socially.

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Originally Posted by Numquam

Nah, playtime shouldn't be just dedicated to farming gil. It should be a time to enjoy the game with other people. There should be another alternative to farming marrows. Maybe make it part of RoE using vouchers. Maybe 40 vouchers gets you a marrow. It could be soloed but something that cannot be done in a week unlike farming ADL with a group would. If people choose to buy all their stuff either from bazaar or from mercs, that's up to them, but not many want to do that. Also, if you all you do is just farm gil in this game, it might be time to move on to something else.

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i dont understand you logic or assumptions. You cant farm gil with other ppl? i know plenty of duos who play to gether by farm coins from dynamis, salvage, and help each other make alliances for vw and yes even for delve for plasm gil. ADL IS EASY with a six man group. Any decent player who can make a relic can have enough success killing ADL. you dont need an alternative.

hell you can even farm the AH there are so many profitable synths on there atm from reforged armor. this is no excuses. you all need to stop being lazy and wasting s.e time with non sense. i rather have older content like ZNM expanded or new battle content. why rehash problems that dont exist.

i dont get it. just because it has the title of farming is preserved as a boring, second job that is a time sink.

an important part of having a successful and enjoyable experience playing this game is learning how to farm/make gil with the above events. with and without friends. if you can see that. then it is your own selfishness and unwillingness to share your spoils.

not just shooting the breeze out side of town with friends talking about how much work sucked.

edit sorry i didnt read the whole thread i just saw that post and replied. thank you to those were mentioned this above.

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Originally Posted by Feary

i dont understand you logic or assumptions. You cant farm gil with other ppl? i know plenty of duos who play to gether by farm coins from dynamis, salvage, and help each other make alliances for vw and yes even for delve for plasm gil. ADL IS EASY with a six man group. Any decent player who can make a relic can have enough success killing ADL. you dont need an alternative.

hell you can even farm the AH there are so many profitable synths on there atm from reforged armor. this is no excuses. you all need to stop being lazy and wasting s.e time with non sense. i rather have older content like ZNM expanded or new battle content. why rehash problems that dont exist.

i dont get it. just because it has the title of farming is preserved as a boring, second job that is a time sink.

an important part of having a successful and enjoyable experience playing this game is learning how to farm/make gil with the above events. with and without friends. if you can see that. then it is your own selfishness and unwillingness to share your spoils.

not just shooting the breeze out side of town with friends talking about how much work sucked.

edit sorry i didnt read the whole thread i just saw that post and replied. thank you to those were mentioned this above.

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Love the troll effort.

Yea, you farm plutons together. You can make FC parties together. You can do all sorts of things. Hell, make a party and collect bat wings for the quest NPC in Sandy for gil. If you want to farm gil to buy your things, great! Enjoy the experience! There are others though that don't want to spend time farming 35 to 40M gil for marrows. The samething could be said with plutons: 300 is a huge number for both time and money. I don't know. I bought this game when I was a Freshman in college and a young private in the U.S. Army 10 years ago. After many friends coming and going and 3 different characters, the game needs to ease up a bit on the obtainability of these items. I don't care for R/E/M for myself, but I do care when I have to sit there with 3 of my best friends playing this game to hash out a money-making plan because we can't easily farm these given our playtime. RoE is great because it gives us a set objective that can be completed in a short time without extra help. Vouchers add up fast over time.

Well really if you're basically asking for a way to buy Marrows with Vouchers then you could get the same Marrows from using the same Vouchers to buy Plutons and sell them to others for gil, then buy the marrows from those who sell them. In either case its the same ending for you.

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Originally Posted by Demonjustin

Well really if you're basically asking for a way to buy Marrows with Vouchers then you could get the same Marrows from using the same Vouchers to buy Plutons and sell them to others for gil, then buy the marrows from those who sell them. In either case its the same ending for you.

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Plutons are going to tank soon.

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Originally Posted by Numquam

Love the troll effort.

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um. you obvious dont know what a troll is. Ironically, you just trolled me with your 4 word reply after i gave you a full answer and thought.

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Originally Posted by Numquam

Yea, you farm plutons together. You can make FC parties together. You can do all sorts of things. Hell, make a party and collect bat wings for the quest NPC in Sandy for gil. If you want to farm gil to buy your things, great! Enjoy the experience! There are others though that don't want to spend time farming 35 to 40M gil for marrows. The samething could be said with plutons: 300 is a huge number for both time and money. I don't know. I bought this game when I was a Freshman in college and a young private in the U.S. Army 10 years ago. After many friends coming and going and 3 different characters, the game needs to ease up a bit on the obtainability of these items. I don't care for R/E/M for myself, but I do care when I have to sit there with 3 of my best friends playing this game to hash out a money-making plan because we can't easily farm these given our playtime. RoE is great because it gives us a set objective that can be completed in a short time without extra help. Vouchers add up fast over time.

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well i guess you found your words.

coolstorybro.

see that is how you troll. No complete reply to the subject, saying nothing of value and talking to someone like they are an idoit afte making a valiant effort to state their opinion.

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Originally Posted by Numquam

Plutons are going to tank soon.

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No. they wont. will they go down. yes. however to say they will soon tank or even tank is premature.

only reasonable path to do of the three is relic. there are like 100-1 99 relics to 99 emps and/or mythics. ok probably now that much but just about. ppl are also still making relics at a much much higher rate than Emps and mythics.

until s.e changes the availability of the respective currency(alex/hmp+rifts) to make mythics and 99 emps, plutons will still be the go to currency of the three.

only chance it will tank is if they change the availability of boxes by adding it to new content or easing AA so that any PUG can defeat it.

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Originally Posted by Feary

um. you obvious dont know what a troll is. Ironically, you just trolled me with your 4 word reply after i gave you a full answer and thought.



well i guess you found your words.

coolstorybro.

see that is how you troll. No complete reply to the subject, saying nothing of value and talking to someone like they are an idoit afte making a valiant effort to state their opinion.





No. they wont. will they go down. yes. however to say they will soon tank or even tank is premature.

only reasonable path to do of the three is relic. there are like 100-1 99 relics to 99 emps and/or mythics. ok probably now that much but just about. ppl are also still making relics at a much much higher rate than Emps and mythics.

until s.e changes the availability of the respective currency(alex/hmp+rifts) to make mythics and 99 emps, plutons will still be the go to currency of the three.

only chance it will tank is if they change the availability of boxes by adding it to new content or easing AA so that any PUG can defeat it.

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You poor thing. It seems you have an opinion that you wish to express. Why are you against the idea of SE easing up on obtaining marrows?

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Originally Posted by Numquam

Plutons are going to tank soon.

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Well in all honesty, are you not asking for Marrows to suffer the same exact fate?

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Originally Posted by Numquam

You poor thing. It seems you have an opinion that you wish to express. Why are you against the idea of SE easing up on obtaining marrows?

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hahahahaha.

p.s.

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Originally Posted by Numquam

Love the troll effort.

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