No but seriously, I don't know if its just my bad luck with parties but why don't people bring RERAISE?!? A scroll from the NPC is like 10 conquest points and you can easily bring two by grabbing one then using it and then buying another.
I remember doing my first Rani fight, oh god it was horrid..
to make a long story short, Proced blue then took a while to proc red then Brewer brewed, brewer got charmed then killed half the alliance
Mages got up, people where more concerned about being raised than the guy actually trying to tank rani after his brew gone off..
We failed miserably then a LS came by while we were trying to keep claim and snagged him..
If people had Reraise I think we would have won the fight.
Moral of the story is, guys, its common sense and common courtesy to bring a form of reraise, I don't know about you but here on Leviathan a RR hairpin is like 15-20k which is better than what it used to be.
Anyone ever had these experiences before?:confused:
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03-25-2011, 11:39 AMMiera{Reraise} {Do you have it?}
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03-25-2011, 11:41 AMDart
this is why i use atma of the apoc on every job/build lol
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03-25-2011, 11:47 AMValefor4lifeLet me guess this was a shout group?Quote:
Originally Posted by Miera
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03-25-2011, 11:49 AMMiera
It was a partial shout group, the majority was endgame LS and a handful was some randoms and some friends.
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03-25-2011, 11:55 AMIlaxsadly is not that cheap on Fenrir + i am so happy about 'atma of the apoc' that fixed many problem. Tbh with you, that would be nice if SE add more gear with auto-reraise on it, like all Emp+3 gear, or why not quest that give you a key item 'auto reraise'Quote:
Originally Posted by Miera
Note how i keep saying i am tire SE make this game 'too easy' but i don't know, always found reraise annoyance more then something hard, specially back in the time it could be dispeled :( Just the fact you 'weak' for 5 min long, is imo already good enough.
That just my opinion on the subject, note i always buy RR even if is 50k on fenrir =( -
03-25-2011, 11:57 AMValefor4life
They should probably put reraise item you can buy off cruor buffer or matello. But still if you want atma off a NM and you don't bring reraise, that's all on you.
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03-25-2011, 11:59 AMMiera
Yeah, we should be able to buy a Dusty Reraise Temp item from the Cruor NPCs.
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03-25-2011, 12:05 PMIlax
Don't you guy like my idea about quest that give you key item? Even if that reraise cost you more experience, HP(homepoint) in abyssea is not great as it used to be in other zone, not like we can set our HP(homepoint) inside abyssea, and porting back mean you loose your light also. Kinda same problem in all event.
Kinda simple as idea: Apoc = R3 -> if no apoc + no RR active = Key item ask you if you wan reraise but accept cause you to loose 2x or 4x more experience, and you still have option to cancel it to get a R1 or R3 that make you loose less exp.
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03-25-2011, 12:09 PMMiera
The key item would be nice too,would it be for abyssea Onry?
That would take zombing Absolute Virtue and Pandemonium Warden lolworthy.. -
03-25-2011, 12:11 PMIlaxwould be nice if cover all zone, also note this key item RR could bring you to 1hp/1mp for 5 min, or weakness last 10 min instead of 5min, that way there still a reason for RR and Raise, but we can stop be forced to HP ><Quote:
Originally Posted by Miera
How many lost item from treasure because you can't get up to pass or lot on it and get kick out of the event. (it would fix that issue)
Edit: They could also make your character muted + amnesia for 5 min long.
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03-25-2011, 12:35 PMSirosGood 4 u,thats awesome guy,but not every1 has that atma..... I do,but not every1 does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dart
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03-25-2011, 12:38 PMHenihhi
Really no reason to not have it, unless your brand spanking new with all the brews etc.
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03-25-2011, 12:39 PMAureusThey should get it then. 9 bosses + 6 caturae + shinryu + cutscenes takes what, 5-6 hours? That's mostly cutscene time too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Siros
At this stage in the game, for an active player, not having a vital atma is just a sign of laziness. -
03-25-2011, 03:06 PMValefor4lifeYup,these guys are the ones that want SE to just hand them everything. Like abyssea isn't already easy enough. Is it really that hard to to get 9 zone boss clears? Hell no. You don't have it because your lazy. Take some initiative and form your own group to do the zone bosses/cacturae or just shut the hell up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aureus
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03-25-2011, 04:38 PMMalamasala
Too many DDs? Usually you have a bunch of mages with natural RR and raise spells to solve things like this.
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03-25-2011, 05:02 PMSiros
No its not laziness,its getting the people together ta get this done.Took me 3 months ta get the people so i could finally have all zones an Shinryu done.Every1 has their own agenda,lol,i luv how u think everything is just so easy ta do all the time.Yes the game has gotten easier,but if u dont have the manpower,u hafta wait.Not every1 has it that easy.....
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03-25-2011, 05:06 PMHenihhi
Every server has roughly 2k+ people on it at any time. It is not hard to shout to get shit done. Hell i duoed 3 of the caturae with a gimp mnk before we even bothered to go duo the rest of our merit abyssites. SE is already spoon feeding you people enough. Go learn your jobs and kill shit already and quit whining
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03-25-2011, 05:26 PMlorzyi'll start by saying i don't disagree with everything you say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Henihhi
but 2k people, every server? if that were true, these server merges wouldn't be happening. on ramuh, it was fairly rare for shout groups to happen, and the shout groups that did happen were usually utterly terrible.
an example: a friend went with a pickup group to get razed ruins, with a full alliance or close to it. took like 3 hours or so, because of various reasons: they lost their first pop because the person who was supposed to bring it to camp died near the pop spot, and it depopped; the wrong people claimed abyssic cluster, so they had to wait for another one, etc. and then they killed it when someone else was dead, so that person didn't get atma.
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03-25-2011, 05:50 PMIlaxI just can't understand that comment, Rani is one of those caturae you need for access, i could understand if you flamed for another NM, but on Rani is pretty weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aureus
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03-25-2011, 06:16 PMlorzy
i wouldn't say it's standard practice to always have reraise. sure, it's nice to have, and easy to get, but in most situations you don't expect to need it. there are other things besides having everyone have rr items that would have saved your pop.