Soloing Nyzul (Dec. Update)

Here's something that pisses me off a little.

"Assaults and Nyzul Isle required members has been changed from three to one."

That's nice and all until......

You know.....

You get to the floors where you have to activate more that one lamp at the same time, or you have to activate 4+ lamps in a specific order. What's the point of making it so we can solo it, if you put that in there so that some of the time it won't let us.

Also I just have bad luck, so I know I'll get that one reply to this that says:
"I've done it multiple times now and I haven't once gotten a floor like that"

All I have to say is I'm happy for you and that you're lucky. I envy your luck.

It wasn't meant to be soloed, get some friends or deal with the luck.

That's what I'm going to do from now on for it, I just wanted to try and get my last 20 floors done on my own since all my friends aren't even past floor 15. At least that way I could get it done and help them out when they want to do theirs instead of having to wait until they get all they way up to floor 80 and then continue. SE is already trying to turn XI into a game that's pretty much 100% solo except for dungeons like 14 is anyway. That's they way it's looking right now.

Besides my point was:

Don't make something that you can go in by yourself from your marketing choices, failable due to the fact that you're in there by yourself.

I would give them some time, and most of all, consider it lucky that they finally decided to remove the restriction in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Okipuit

After discussing this further, we have decided to remove the minimum participant restriction for Nyzul Isle Investigation in the December version update!

Please note that at the moment, we will not be making battle adjustments so it will be difficult to clear solo or in low-man groups. The reason behind this is because there are some system-related aspects that will make it difficult to adjust the way lamps function for solo or low-man groups. In the future, we would like to address this with Trust NPCs and make it possible to clear even with a small group of players.

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I believe your friends can actually help you with the last 20 floors, they just dont get credit til their progress is that high. But yea sit tight for the possible trust help in NNI, until then you will have to take your chances or get 2 other people. i think the smallest amount of lamps in multi lamp floors is 3, but some like same time you could possibly hit if they were close enough to each other.

Allowing us to enter solo was somethign we were asking for so they allowed it, but just hadnt come up with a way to make the whole event soloable yet (if they even do)

Man it's been a while......

The easiest way to have changed this to be soloable would have been to get rid of the requirement to activate all the lamps at the same time.....that's it. To activate them in order or anything like that can stay, just get rid of the activate all at the same time.

I did some solo in nyzul a while back looking or DNC dagger to unlock the WS. I did somewhere in the range of 15 solo trips from 96-100 as mnk. I would get one of the flee drinks from the temp items box and go. I got one "same time" lamp floor that I couldn't manage to complete and had to leave before time was up. On every other run I would reach the boss and get in 5+ more floors of progress just looking for nm's. So either I was truly lucky or you are terribly unlucky to not be able to. But either way, it can be done easily solo. Just sayin'

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Originally Posted by Bigrob33

I did some solo in nyzul a while back looking or DNC dagger to unlock the WS. I did somewhere in the range of 15 solo trips from 96-100 as mnk. I would get one of the flee drinks from the temp items box and go. I got one "same time" lamp floor that I couldn't manage to complete and had to leave before time was up. On every other run I would reach the boss and get in 5+ more floors of progress just looking for nm's. So either I was truly lucky or you are terribly unlucky to not be able to. But either way, it can be done easily solo. Just sayin'

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Every time I enter I get a same time lamp floor, which makes it impossible to complete. Yes, I am just unlucky, but it sucks to spend a bunch of time then auto-fail. So I gave up on making progress solo.

It sucks though because no one wants to do floor 65....

>.>

Sometimes you want to complete something and you're in a situation where you've partially completed it, and the only people you can find to help are those who haven't completed it at all. That seems to be where some of the posters are. The best solution is for you to be willing to backtrack and help your friends catch up, then you all make the push together. That's what I've done in the past with Nyzul, Storyline missions, Assault, and what I'm doing right now with Voidwatch. I'm on Provenance Watcher but I've been doing a lot of cities and lower tier Jeuno runs to get people clears so they can join me and we can all do the final fight together since for the most part people who already have Provenance Watcher clear aren't interested in doing it again.

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Originally Posted by Zarchery

Sometimes you want to complete something and you're in a situation where you've partially completed it, and the only people you can find to help are those who haven't completed it at all. That seems to be where some of the posters are. The best solution is for you to be willing to backtrack and help your friends catch up, then you all make the push together. That's what I've done in the past with Nyzul, Storyline missions, Assault, and what I'm doing right now with Voidwatch. I'm on Provenance Watcher but I've been doing a lot of cities and lower tier Jeuno runs to get people clears so they can join me and we can all do the final fight together since for the most part people who already have Provenance Watcher clear aren't interested in doing it again.

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I would but I don't even know anyone at floor 0 who wants to get going. Good call though. Been duoing some VW clears with a friend for this reason.

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Originally Posted by Olor

I would but I don't even know anyone at floor 0 who wants to get going. Good call though. Been duoing some VW clears with a friend for this reason.

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Have you checked with Tiktaks' REDDIT LS on your server? They say there's so many people, they run into the limit of people that can be logged on and in the LS at the same time. They're always finding things to do. I'm sure someone in that LS would want to do the content.

http://www.reddit.com/r/RedditLinkshell

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Originally Posted by bungiefanNA

Have you checked with Tiktaks' REDDIT LS on your server? They say there's so many people, they run into the limit of people that can be logged on and in the LS at the same time. They're always finding things to do. I'm sure someone in that LS would want to do the content.

http://www.reddit.com/r/RedditLinkshell

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Oh thanks for the suggestion, will check it out. I really like my peeps in my current LS though. Wish XI allowed multiple LSes to be equipped at a time. My current LS only usually has 6-10 people on at a time but they are super friendly/inclusive and we actually help each other. Without them I wouldn't have been able to get to Raz'Kanar/gotten my climbing KI, unlocked Yorcia skirmish etc.

Here is a quick fix, remove lamp floors... Everyone hates them, and has always hated them. They aren't fun, and never were. Its ok to remove horrible design and bad gameplay.

They whole point to the lamp floors is to put a challenge in to it, You could probably solo 10+ floors if you didn't have lamp floors easily. I'm okay with the floors having lamps, just not the activate all at once, and if you're solo, don't have more than 3 that need to be activated in order, they get so frustrating when you have to do 5 in a specific order.

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Originally Posted by Marada

They whole point to the lamp floors is to put a challenge in to it, You could probably solo 10+ floors if you didn't have lamp floors easily. I'm okay with the floors having lamps, just not the activate all at once, and if you're solo, don't have more than 3 that need to be activated in order, they get so frustrating when you have to do 5 in a specific order.

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And so what if you could solo 10 floors of outdated content that is gated by tags? Why does it matter? It's just a big roadblock for folks like me who would really like to unlock some weapon skills but 10 billionish WS points are too soulcrushing to tolerate. I've literally spent hours and hours and hours using PUP hand to hand and have not even gotten to the "only 500 WS points left" message. I'm on floor 65 and every time I try to solo nyzul I get screwed by a lamp floor.

Or if they don't want to do that at least give us a bloody map of the place.

I have plenty of challenges in making the weapon this step is tedious plane and simple.