Plase explain the network letters s and r to me please

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12-06-2013, 04:16 PM
Kawar

Plase explain the network letters s and r to me please(still need help unsolved)

I would like an as in depth detailed answer as possible,here is my question.I am lagging really really bad so bad that i cant move.Well i can move but it is very choppy and slow.I would like someone to explain to me what S effects and what hardware is effected with it.

Then the same for R please seeing as i am checking every thing and i am at a lose for what it could be.

also i am very sorry if this is the wrong forum it is very hard to tell where things should go i find in this forum.
12-06-2013, 04:20 PM
Draylo

Sounds like an issue with your PC, not a internet issue. Best I can do to help sorry, maybe post your specs and if this happens with any other games.
12-06-2013, 04:42 PM
Kawar

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Originally Posted by Draylo

Sounds like an issue with your PC, not a internet issue. Best I can do to help sorry, maybe post your specs and if this happens with any other games.

I play on a ps2,but i can log on and i seem to have no error with the game i am running a file check right now on the game btw.anyone got any idea,btw for backstory.The power went out a few times in the last week,I think something may have happened but that is what i am thinking.

That is why i was asking what
S=0
R=0
links to.Btw the s=0 and r=0 are example numbers and not what i see.What information would you need to try to help with this?

edit

I am looking in to opening my ports so my nat is open to see if that is the problem.but i cant find out how to do it and i do not understand where i put the information that i found in the book that came with my ps2 copy of the game a long time a go.
12-08-2013, 02:23 AM
bungiefanNA

S is packets sent
R is packets received

As the PS2 has no malware that can infect it over the internet, best thing to do is assign it a static IP address and then put that IP address in the DMZ of your router. The DMZ device is not affected by the firewall at all.

You define your IP address before logging in to PlayOnline Viewer. You need to give it one that your router doesn't assign via DHCP, so you need to find the range in your router settings. Example, my router assigns the last digit in the address to be starting at address 10, and can hand out 50, meaning 192.168.0.10 through 192.168.0.59 are handed out by the router. That leaves final numbers of 2-9 (1 is used by the router) and 60-254 available for me to assign as static device addresses. A static address is much easier to grant firewall port exemptions, because the address won't change after a reboot and lease expiration.
12-08-2013, 06:11 AM
Kawar

Quote:

Originally Posted by bungiefanNA

S is packets sent
R is packets received

As the PS2 has no malware that can infect it over the internet, best thing to do is assign it a static IP address and then put that IP address in the DMZ of your router. The DMZ device is not affected by the firewall at all.

You define your IP address before logging in to PlayOnline Viewer. You need to give it one that your router doesn't assign via DHCP, so you need to find the range in your router settings. Example, my router assigns the last digit in the address to be starting at address 10, and can hand out 50, meaning 192.168.0.10 through 192.168.0.59 are handed out by the router. That leaves final numbers of 2-9 (1 is used by the router) and 60-254 available for me to assign as static device addresses. A static address is much easier to grant firewall port exemptions, because the address won't change after a reboot and lease expiration.

Can you explain how to do what you were talking about with the router and also explain how to port forward seeing as i remember the se book that comes with the ps2 copy gives a list of some ports to let data move freely,but i forget how to work port forwarding.

also you lost me with the DMZ example,is there and information you need from me to be able to help me?Like the router i have or something like that?
12-08-2013, 08:40 AM
Freebytes

Kawar, DMZ stands for Demilitarized Zone. You have a public IP that is handed to your router. Your router then gives private IP addresses out to the computers inside the network. If you look in your router and find a DMZ configuration, you can put your PS2 private IP address in there and it will not have any ports blocked for it. You must figure out how to log into your router on your own. Normally, if you go to a computer and use "ipconfig" from the command prompt, the gateway will be the IP address of the router. Put that in your web browser to make changes as needed. The default username is normally "admin" and the default password is normally blank, "password", or "admin".
12-09-2013, 01:01 AM
Kawar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freebytes

Kawar, DMZ stands for Demilitarized Zone. You have a public IP that is handed to your router. Your router then gives private IP addresses out to the computers inside the network. If you look in your router and find a DMZ configuration, you can put your PS2 private IP address in there and it will not have any ports blocked for it. You must figure out how to log into your router on your own. Normally, if you go to a computer and use "ipconfig" from the command prompt, the gateway will be the IP address of the router. Put that in your web browser to make changes as needed. The default username is normally "admin" and the default password is normally blank, "password", or "admin".

I just got in to my router and i found i do have DMZ but now i have no clue how to find my PS2s IP.Btw i am going to set this up and test,the lag this is going to help me see if it is my router or files on my ps2 or my ps2.

also i am still looking for someone to explain port forwarding to me please

I found the following links maybe you can help me make heads or tales of them and explain them a bit to me please.
https://support.us.playstation.com/a...tail/a_id/1135
https://support.us.playstation.com/a...NlcGpIbA%3D%3D
12-09-2013, 11:45 AM
bungiefanNA

Your router is a firewall, because of NAT. It acts as a bouncer, and incoming traffic isn't sent to a device on the other side of the router unless it was specificlaly requested by the device. Port forwarding tells the router to allow traffic into the network on specific ports (each IP address has 65535 ports each for TCP and UDP traffic) , and to direct it to specific devices. Since it's a one-external-address-to-many-internal-addresses mapping, each port has to be specified to a specific internal IP. If no address is specified, the router discards the data.

You should know the IP address of the PS2, because you get to set it in the configuration in PlayOnline Viewer. You can either have devices request an address from the router (auto-configure, dynamic) or set the address on the device itself (manual, static). You want to set it yourself, because the router can hand out from a pool of several addresses, and it picks them randomly, so when you turn the PS2 off, it can get a different address next time. Setting the address yourself lets you know what it always is, and thus keep the port open for it.

Find a Network+ study guide. This is a major component of that exam. As for how to do it on your router, that varies from router to router. All network devices have the same settings options though, so defining a static address is the same, though the interface itself may be different.
12-09-2013, 03:00 PM
Raksha

Plug your ps2 directly into the modem to see if it works better bypassing the router.
12-10-2013, 07:51 AM
Kawar

Quote:

Originally Posted by bungiefanNA

Your router is a firewall, because of NAT. It acts as a bouncer, and incoming traffic isn't sent to a device on the other side of the router unless it was specificlaly requested by the device. Port forwarding tells the router to allow traffic into the network on specific ports (each IP address has 65535 ports each for TCP and UDP traffic) , and to direct it to specific devices. Since it's a one-external-address-to-many-internal-addresses mapping, each port has to be specified to a specific internal IP. If no address is specified, the router discards the data.

You should know the IP address of the PS2, because you get to set it in the configuration in PlayOnline Viewer. You can either have devices request an address from the router (auto-configure, dynamic) or set the address on the device itself (manual, static). You want to set it yourself, because the router can hand out from a pool of several addresses, and it picks them randomly, so when you turn the PS2 off, it can get a different address next time. Setting the address yourself lets you know what it always is, and thus keep the port open for it.

Find a Network+ study guide. This is a major component of that exam. As for how to do it on your router, that varies from router to router. All network devices have the same settings options though, so defining a static address is the same, though the interface itself may be different.

I still do not understand how i set it my self can you explain that a bit more please.

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Originally Posted by Raksha

Plug your ps2 directly into the modem to see if it works better bypassing the router.

If i do this and the game works better what will that mean?

edit

I still need help i just checked like 5min a go and my ps2 is not sett to its own ip.I would like to know how to make one of my own to set to it can you explain it in a very dummy example please and what information do you need for this to go smoother on my part.
12-13-2013, 10:19 PM
bungiefanNA

Just Google and wiki the basics of IP version 4 networking. It would be pages and pages to explain it, as the course I took on it was a couple weeks long. I've given you enough to have an idea of what to search for, you should be able to work a search engine yourself for the rest.

The manual for PlayOnline tells you how to set up a connection, and then it's just plugging in data. You have to know about your network to plug in numbers manually. I don't know anything about your network or what equipment you are running on it, so no specifics for configuring the router or addresses can be given.

It's simple math once you know what each part of the network settings do.
12-17-2013, 10:40 PM
Kawar

Quote:

Originally Posted by bungiefanNA

Just Google and wiki the basics of IP version 4 networking. It would be pages and pages to explain it, as the course I took on it was a couple weeks long. I've given you enough to have an idea of what to search for, you should be able to work a search engine yourself for the rest.

The manual for PlayOnline tells you how to set up a connection, and then it's just plugging in data. You have to know about your network to plug in numbers manually. I don't know anything about your network or what equipment you are running on it, so no specifics for configuring the router or addresses can be given.

It's simple math once you know what each part of the network settings do.

Thanks i will check google later.but Can i ask you how do i bye pass the router to see if the router is bad?
12-18-2013, 01:02 AM
bungiefanNA

You remove the router from the chain in the network, which means you can only have one device connected to the modem. That was already said in this thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raksha

Plug your ps2 directly into the modem to see if it works better bypassing the router.

Not having the router connected is bypassing it. Also, that will work because there won't be anything blocking ports. The whole purpose of the router though is to split the incoming connection to as many devices as you need. WIthout it, only one device can be on the network at once, and no wireless devices can connect.

We're not saying the router is bad, we're saying you need to learn basic management of it to do port forwarding. Everyone should know how to do port forwarding on their own router, just like you should know how to check and fill fluids on your car. It's basic maintenance and operation. Your network doesn't work properly if you don't set this up.
12-22-2013, 07:29 AM
Kawar

Quote:

Originally Posted by bungiefanNA

You remove the router from the chain in the network, which means you can only have one device connected to the modem. That was already said in this thread:

Not having the router connected is bypassing it. Also, that will work because there won't be anything blocking ports. The whole purpose of the router though is to split the incoming connection to as many devices as you need. WIthout it, only one device can be on the network at once, and no wireless devices can connect.

We're not saying the router is bad, we're saying you need to learn basic management of it to do port forwarding. Everyone should know how to do port forwarding on their own router, just like you should know how to check and fill fluids on your car. It's basic maintenance and operation. Your network doesn't work properly if you don't set this up.

Thank you i will test this again later but i got the game now on xboxs and it seems the bad lag i was having has slowed down really bad i just now have the normal zoning lag that 360s have.So can i ask you all from hearing this do you think it was a problem with the ps2 and i was thinking it was the router?