Certain textures flicker in Windows 7 and Windows Vista

Platform: PC Windows 7 64-bit (also happens in 32-bit version, happens in Vista 32 and 64 bit versions also)

ISP: AT&T

Type of Internet Connection: DSL

Internet Connection Speed: 2.57 Mbps DL / 0.34Mbps UL

Frequency:Always

Area and Coordinates: Any

Monster Name: Rocs are the most obvious example but occurs with many textures and objects (another example is the face armor on the Conflux Surveyor, Cruor Prospector and Atma Infusionist NPCs)

Textures will appear to flicker, as stated above Roc type monsters are the most obvious example (their wings will flicker when then they are idle)

It doesn't appear to be a problem with any specific video card. I have seen the same problem with every Nvidia and ATI graphics card I have run FFXI on.

After further testing it appears to be caused by Windows 7/Vista forcing FFXI to use Shader Model 2.0. (FFXI is a DirectX 8 game and uses Shader Model 1.0) ATI's graphics drivers have a registry setting that can be used to restrict the maximum pixel and vertex shader version allowed regardless of what the video card actually supports. When Windows is restricted to Shader Model 1.0 (1.1 and 1.5 also work but Pixel and Vertex shader versions must match) then this problem goes away completely.

However this is not a solution because Windows Aero stops working (it requires Shader Model 2.0) as well as any games that needs Shader Model 2.0 or higher.

Note that this ONLY happens in Windows 7 and Windows Vista. It does NOT happen in Windows XP.

Greetings, Atomic_Skull!
Thank you for posting your concerns with flickering textures. I can understand how strange it is to only experience this with Windows 7 and Windows Vista, so I will make sure to submit the information that you have provided to the development team for a thorough investigation. I recommend keeping watch on this thread for any information regarding the investigation. I also suggest consulting www.PlayOnline.com for any possible developments regarding this matter, just in case. Thank you again for your report!

Hello Atomic_Skull,

We have received the results from Development and they have determined that this may be a technical issue. If you are still experiencing texture flickering, please contact our information center at http://support.na.square-enix.com > FINAL FANTASY XI > Contact. In the mean time, I will be moving this thread to "Technical Support" so we can receive some additional feedback or suggestions.

Thank you,
SQUARE ENIX Moderator

It's not a technical issue, I've seen the exact same thing on every Windows Vista and Windows 7 PC I've have installed the game on regardless of system specs and graphics card.

Again, this does not happen on Windows XP, only on Windows Vista and Windows 7.

The problem you described IS a technical issue. If its something thats specific to a piece of technology or hardware/software glitch/compatability problem then its technical.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Xellith

The problem you described IS a technical issue. If its something thats specific to a piece of technology or hardware/software glitch/compatability problem then its technical.

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Yes but it's not something that can be fixed by the user. It's something intrinsic to FFXI running on Windows 7 and Windows Vista. I've already figured out exactly what's causing it (see my original post)

I play on windows 7 and when i used to play i dident have this problem? Can you post your dxdiag? If you dont know how press the start button and type dxdiag in the search bar and then save all infomation and then copy and paste. more then likely you might need to use windows update have you updated direct x and your video card?

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Doomtrigger

I play on windows 7 and when i used to play i dident have this problem? Can you post your dxdiag? If you dont know how press the start button and type dxdiag in the search bar and then save all infomation and then copy and paste. more then likely you might need to use windows update have you updated direct x and your video card?

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Yes I have, I'm competent with computers I also know what dxdiag is and how to use it.. I'm thinking you just haven't noticed it before. I've seen this exact same thing on every Windows 7 and Windows Vista PC I've run the game on.

Anyway, here you go.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 4/29/2011, 23:40:38
Machine name: EGGMAN-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: MSI
System Model: MS-7586
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 860 @ 2.80GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8184MB RAM
Page File: 1881MB used, 14483MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
System DPI Setting: 120 DPI (125 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x6899)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6899&SUBSYS_E140174B&REV_00
Display Memory: 749 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1010 MB
Shared Memory: 3835 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: SAMSUNG
Monitor Id: SAM02A5
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: DVI
Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1072 (English)
Driver Version: 8.841.0.0
DDI Version: 11
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 4/5/2011 19:02:00, 788480 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-2BD9-11CF-CB70-4AC1BEC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x6899
SubSys ID: 0xE140174B
Revision ID: 0x0000
Driver Strong Name: oem20.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1:ati2mtag_Evergreen:8.841.0.0:pci\ven_1002&dev_6899
Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
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{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
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{5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
DXVA-HD: Not Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices
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Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0889&SUBSYS_14627586&REV_1000
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6316 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 2/24/2011 18:21:10, 2753512 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

Description: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0889&SUBSYS_14627586&REV_1000
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6316 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 2/24/2011 18:21:10, 2753512 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
Description: Line In (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6316 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 2/24/2011 18:21:10, 2753512 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

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DirectInput Devices
-------------------
Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Controller (XBOX 360 For Windows)
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x028E
FF Driver: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\XBCDR.dll
FF Driver Date: 8/22/2007 15:11:32
FF Driver Version: 0.08.0001.0000
FF Driver Size: 86016 bytes

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
-----------
+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x3B3C
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub20
| Service: usbhub
|
+-+ Generic USB Hub
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x8087, 0x0020
| | Location: Port_#0001.Hub_#0001
| | Matching Device ID: usb\class_09
| | Service: usbhub
| |
| +-+ USB Input Device
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC044
| | | Location: Port_#0002.Hub_#0004
| | | Matching Device ID: generic_hid_device
| | | Service: HidUsb
| | |
| | +-+ HID-compliant mouse
| | | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC044
| | | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| | | | Service: mouhid
| | |
| +-+ XBCD Xbox 360 Controller
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x028E
| | | Location: Port_#0001.Hub_#0004
| | | Matching Device ID: usb\vid_045e&pid_028e
| | | Service: XBCD
| | | OEMData: 23 00 88 11 18 00 00 00
| | |
| | +-+ HID-compliant game controller
| | | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x028E
| | | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_game
| | | | OEMData: 23 00 88 11 18 00 00 00

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Gameport Devices
----------------

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PS/2 Devices
------------
+ Standard PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 1286.2 GB
Total Space: 1907.7 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: ST32000641AS

Drive: D:
Model: ATAPI iHAS124 A
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), , 0 bytes

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System Devices
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Name: Intel(R) processor System Management Registers - D155
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D155&SUBSYS_00860062&REV_11\3&11583659&0&40
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 3B34
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B34&SUBSYS_75861462&REV_06\3&11583659&0&E8
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) QuickPath Interconnect - D151
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D151&SUBSYS_00860062&REV_11\3&11583659&0&81
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller - 3B30
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B30&SUBSYS_75861462&REV_06\3&11583659&0&FB
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) QuickPath Interconnect - D150
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D150&SUBSYS_00860062&REV_11\3&11583659&0&80
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series SATA AHCI Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B22&SUBSYS_75861462&REV_06\3&11583659&0&FA
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) processor PCI Express Root Port 1 - D138
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D138&SUBSYS_75861462&REV_11\3&11583659&0&18
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) P55 Express Chipset LPC Interface Controller - 3B02
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B02&SUBSYS_75861462&REV_06\3&11583659&0&F8
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) processor DMI - D131
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D131&SUBSYS_75861462&REV_11\3&11583659&0&00
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_75861462&REV_A6\3&11583659&0&F0
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) processor Miscellaneous Registers - D158
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D158&SUBSYS_00860062&REV_11\3&11583659&0&43
Driver: n/a

Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B56&SUBSYS_75861462&REV_06\3&11583659&0&D8
Driver: n/a

Name: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_75861462&REV_03\4&7C74F7B&0&00E0
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) processor System Control and Status Registers - D157
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D157&SUBSYS_00860062&REV_11\3&11583659&0&42
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 3B42
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B42&SUBSYS_75861462&REV_06\3&11583659&0&E0
Driver: n/a

Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_AA50&SUBSYS_AA50174B&REV_00\4&37ECFFA9&0&0118
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) processor Semaphore and Scratchpad Registers - D156
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_D156&SUBSYS_00860062&REV_11\3&11583659&0&41
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 3B3C
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_3B3C&SUBSYS_75861462&REV_06\3&11583659&0&D0
Driver: n/a

Name: ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6899&SUBSYS_E140174B&REV_00\4&37ECFFA9&0&0018
Driver: n/a

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DirectShow Filters
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DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
MP3 Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,mp3dmod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp4sdecd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsdecd.dll,6.01.7601.17514
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,wmvdecod.dll,6.01.7601.17514
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp43decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mpg4decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
ffdshow Video Decoder,0xff800001,2,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3439.0000
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ffdshow raw video filter,0x00200000,2,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3439.0000
ffdshow Audio Decoder,0xff800001,1,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3439.0000
ATI Ticker,0x00200000,0,1,Ticker.ax,
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
DivX AAC Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,daac.ax,7.01.0000.0010
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,12.00.7601.17514
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VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
SBE2MediaTypeProfile,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder,0x005fffff,2,4,msmpeg2vdec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
Closed Captions Analysis Filter,0x00200000,2,5,cca.dll,6.06.7601.17514
SBE2FileScan,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
DivX MKV Demux (unrestricted),0x00200000,0,1,DMFSource.ax,1.00.0002.0006
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MMACE ProcAmp,0x00200000,0,2,MMACEFilters.dll,
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft MPEG-2 Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DivX H.264 Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,DivXDecH264.ax,9.00.0001.0021
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DivX Decoder Filter,0x00800000,1,1,DivXDec.ax,7.01.0001.0014
VPS Decoder,0x00200000,0,0,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.01.7601.17514
MMACE SoftEmu,0x00200000,0,2,MMACEFilters.dll,
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
iTV Data Sink,0x00600000,1,0,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
iTV Data Capture filter,0x00600000,1,1,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MMACE DeInterlace,0x00200000,0,2,MMACEFilters.dll,
Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DivX MKV Demux,0x00600000,0,1,DMFSource.ax,1.00.0002.0006
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
RDP DShow Redirection Filter,0xffffffff,1,0,DShowRdpFilter.dll,
Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
WST Pager,0x00200000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
ffdshow Audio Processor,0x00200000,1,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3439.0000
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft AC3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msac3enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17514
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
ffdshow subtitles filter,0x00200000,2,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3439.0000
Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder,0x005fffff,1,1,msmpeg2adec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
StreamBufferSink2,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
PlayOnline Movie File Source,0x00000000,0,0,,
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Enhanced Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,evr.dll,6.01.7601.17514
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00200000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514

WDM Streaming Tee/Splitter Devices:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvxencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvencod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
ffdshow video encoder,0x00100000,1,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.3439.0000
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DivX 6.9.2 Codec (8 Logical CPUs),0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
ffdshow Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Fraps Video Decompressor,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
VMnc v2,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DivX 6.9.2 YV12 Decoder,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514

Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514

Audio Capture Sources:
Line In (Realtek High Definitio,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514

PBDA CP Filters:
PBDA DTFilter,0x00600000,1,1,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528
PBDA ETFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528
PBDA PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MIDISPORT 2x2 Out A,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MIDISPORT 2x2 Out B,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MIDISPORT Uno Out,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
Realtek HD Audio CD input,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Realtek HD Audio Line input,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Realtek HD Audio Mic input,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Realtek HD Audio Stereo input,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
,0x00000000,0,0,,
,0x00000000,0,0,,
,0x00000000,0,0,,

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
Realtek HDA SPDIF Out,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
,0x00000000,0,0,,
,0x00000000,0,0,,
,0x00000000,0,0,,

Audio Renderers:
Speakers (Realtek High Definiti,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DirectSound: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DirectSound: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Realtek Digital Output (Realtek,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17514

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EVR Power Information
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Current Setting: {5C67A112-A4C9-483F-B4A7-1D473BECAFDC} (Quality)
Quality Flags: 2576
Enabled:
Force throttling
Allow half deinterlace
Allow scaling
Decode Power Usage: 100
Balanced Flags: 1424
Enabled:
Force throttling
Allow batching
Force half deinterlace
Force scaling
Decode Power Usage: 50
PowerFlags: 1424
Enabled:
Force throttling
Allow batching
Force half deinterlace
Force scaling
Decode Power Usage: 0

Oh, i'm sure he can find tons of useful information in that wall of text :p.

For the record, I have the exact same problem.

lol @ above.

You're not alone, this isn't a driver issue. I never see this on non windows 7/vista. Same hardware and XP, no flicker.

Thankfully it's a really minor issue and doesn't always show up (sometimes it depends on the angle and camera distance) but when you're idling or not doing anything intensive, it's something that you see sticking out.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

lol @ above.

You're not alone, this isn't a driver issue. I never see this on non windows 7/vista. Same hardware and XP, no flicker.

Thankfully it's a really minor issue and doesn't always show up (sometimes it depends on the angle and camera distance) but when you're idling or not doing anything intensive, it's something that you see sticking out.

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Also depends on the angle of the "sun" lightsource in the zone as well. eg. the entrance to the area just in front of the guidestone in Jeuno as you run toward it from outside if you are the right distance from it and it's the right time of day.

Are you useing a wireless connection? If so that is the problem. I dont see any problems in the dxidag either. and sorry it took me a few days to respond back. i used a wireless connection to see if that caused the flickering and that was the cause it also would freeze for 1 or 2 seconds.

Why would an unstable network connection cause graphical glitches like we see here? It makes no sense.

To describe the bug, imagine looking at a bird (a roc). Look at the feathers, now imagine that the game can't make up its mind about which feathers are supposed to be on top of other feathers, so it changes continuously. Like way back when some games had z-buffer issues that caused the game to display things even if they were in reality obstructed by other, closer objects.

If anything, suggesting that this error is related to wireless networks indicates that you have no real idea about what sort of problem this is-

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Mirage

Why would an unstable network connection cause graphical glitches like we see here? It makes no sense.

To describe the bug, imagine looking at a bird (a roc). Look at the feathers, now imagine that the game can't make up its mind about which feathers are supposed to be on top of other feathers, so it changes continuously. Like way back when some games had z-buffer issues that caused the game to display things even if they were in reality obstructed by other, closer objects.

If anything, suggesting that this error is related to wireless networks indicates that you have no real idea about what sort of problem this is-

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I'm not using a wireless router but what you said basically.

I've already figured out the cause as stated in my original post. The problem is that SE will have to fix their damn game to get rid of the problem because there's nothing the user can do except limit his graphics card to Shader Model v1.4 or less using the registry settings (you can do this with ATI cards, not sure about Nvidia) or use a video card that only supports shader model 1.4, assuming you can even get a Vista/Win7 driver for it, and that's NOT an acceptable solution because it disables Windows Aero and anything else that needs Shader Model 2.0 or higher.

I think the problem might be related to Windows 7 and Windows Vista not having "real" DirectX 8. It's my understanding that in Windows Vista and Windows 7 D3D8.dll is a wrapper. Basically it's emulating DirectX 8 by converting the API calls into DirextX 9

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

I think the problem might be related to Windows 7 and Windows Vista not having "real" DirectX 8. It's my understanding that in Windows Vista and Windows 7 D3D8.dll is a wrapper. Basically it's emulating DirectX 8 by converting the API calls into DirextX 9

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This ^

Need more fix to dx9

wall of text ._.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Kaida

This ^

Need more fix to dx9

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SE might be able to make some adjustments to the shaders to fix this. It seems that when pixel and vertex shaders higher than v1.4 are available the flickering happens. My first thought was that Vista/Windows 7 was possibly using Shader Model 2.0 instead of 1.4 when wrapping DirectX 8 to DirectX 9.

im having a similar issue kinda. Textures on my weapons (mainly Axes/Ga's) swirl together. on certain Hume hair there is like flashing bald patches. On a cockatrice kinda same thing. I get different color spots on the floor depending on what zone im in (Abyss - Ule Purple/Turquoise) (Abyss - Altepa Yellow/black) and earlier my screen changed to like a brick wall.

Xp64
Pentium I5
Zotac Gts450

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Nedokius

im having a similar issue kinda. Textures on my weapons (mainly Axes/Ga's) swirl together. on certain Hume hair there is like flashing bald patches. On a cockatrice kinda same thing. I get different color spots on the floor depending on what zone im in (Abyss - Ule Purple/Turquoise) (Abyss - Altepa Yellow/black) and earlier my screen changed to like a brick wall.

Xp64
Pentium I5
Zotac Gts450

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Not the same problem, that sounds more like you have a dying video card.

Yes, that sounds like video RAM issues.