Now that Chocoblinkers have been nerfed VW has almost died on the server i'm on. Trying to get earlier tiers is almost impossible to get people on.
Basically i'm asking others from other servers are you having the same problem?
thanks
voidwatch shouts
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11-12-2012, 06:56 AMSecondplanetvoidwatch shouts
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11-12-2012, 06:57 AMDemon6324236
On everything non-T3 Jeuno/Zilart, yes.
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11-12-2012, 07:28 AMTrisscar
Noticed that too.
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11-12-2012, 07:41 AMAldersyde
The only VW shouts that I see get of the ground with regularity are those involving Zilart Tier 3 NMs. Kaggen/Pil/Akvan are hit-or-miss and I've joined some where after you get 10 or 11 people, responses just kind of fizzle out and the party either breaks or it takes a long time to fill. Most shouts that I see involving Jeuno Tier 4 and 5 usually sit at less six people or so four what seems like hours. VW shouts on the whole seem to be less common than before blinker nerf.
It's not a good situation for people who want to finish the content or get some of the rarer armors. -
11-12-2012, 07:43 AMDemon6324236
T3 Jeuno still fill up fairly fast, T3 Zilart are a little slower, followed by T6 Jeuno, then T2 Aht/Tav. People still want the money from plates, cinder, and dross, Zilart's pouches being as random as they are seems to be a bit of a turn off from them, same with Cinder/Dross & the rarity of the Cinder/Dross NM shouts themselves.
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11-12-2012, 03:23 PMMayoyama
I know many people who used to do VW shouts purely for the cruor. Now they have no incentive.
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11-12-2012, 07:31 PMIakothm
... Plenty of people shout for VW. I have no clue what you are complaining about.
Also do you wait for someone to start a run or do you put one together yourself? -
11-12-2012, 09:22 PMSecondplanetother then the obvious Qilin and select few no shouts are done. I have tried multiple times to put groups together and most fail due to lack of responces, i have tried shouting on weekends around 12pm and again around 4-5pm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iakothm
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11-13-2012, 05:45 AMKriegsgott
there ar still a lot Voidwatch shouts around......
dont blame people for not helping with City wins & stuff it dosn has to do anything with cruor nerf ;) -
11-13-2012, 05:58 AMFynlarActually, considering how many people I've seen say that they were just helping for the cruor, it kinda doesQuote:
dont blame people for not helping with City wins & stuff it dosn has to do anything with cruor nerf
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11-13-2012, 06:12 AMZagenPretty sure the :D smiley was supposed to imply sarcasm or at least I sure hope so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fynlar
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11-13-2012, 07:20 AMKriegsgott101% right!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zagen
the other side of the story would be "blame all the people for being lazy and stubborn or dont care about your wins" or something like this :D -
11-13-2012, 07:24 AMLuvbunny
Voidwatch shouts are still happening very often in Bahamut server. Most of the time. People still need those gears. Clearing some tiers may be a bit harder to gather group, but this is where you use all your gills from chocoblinker to buy weakening item. It's not that difficult. As always, if you are willing to lead, and stomach the shouting for 30-60 mnts gathering people and waiting around, nothing is impossible. Read up, and be knowledgeable, do your research, and know what to do/expected of you. It is worth it, trust me. Stop being a sheep, and use the internet to google information. So many people are lazy and just waiting to be spoon feed information and extremely under prepared and did not even do the neccessary cut scenes.
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11-13-2012, 07:48 AMSecondplanetI should move to your server then, I've tried several times to make tier parties and after shouting for 1hr if i'm left with less then 1 party i call it quits. As for the chocoblinkers bit i didn't jump on that band wagon, was having too much fun with VW to spend time doing it and since i play summoner all the best gear is rare/ex anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luvbunny
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11-13-2012, 03:24 PMAldersydeI usually like most of the things you post but you are absolutely wrong in this instance. Popular VW shouts fill up in 30-60 minutes (on Siren... your server may vary). VW shouts which have mobs which are not-so-popular take much, much, much longer. You can be one of the most well-informed, persistent, assertive leaders that ever walked Vanadiel's pixelated landscapes, but if other players don't think it's worth their time to help (because they believe they won't get anything out of it), none of that matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luvbunny
That's the point of this thread, not people failing to take the initiative to actually lead the runs. There are still shouts. The problem is these groups fail altogether or take far longer to get to the actual fight than in the past. It was only a couple of months when you had to be fast on the draw to get into a qilin/kaggen/akvan/pil shout. That's no longer the case whatsoever. -
11-13-2012, 09:50 PMDemon6324236
Yeah I have seen win runs take 6+ hours before... the sad thing is people are so desperate most people even stay in the party and wait the whole time too.
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11-13-2012, 10:18 PMKomori
Shouts aren't any different on Bismarck from what I've seen.
I've still seen Morta, Ig-Alima, Qilin, Kaggen, Pil. And still see alot of tier shouts. -
11-14-2012, 01:36 PMTsukino_KajiNo, they are now virtualy nonexistant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iakothm
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11-14-2012, 04:01 PMIakothm
On asura VW Shouts are very common. As for tier climbs I see shouts for them all the time still.
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11-14-2012, 04:40 PMTsukino_KajiWell on Siren, you see maybe 1 every three hours as apposed to 3+ every hour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iakothm
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11-14-2012, 04:53 PMIakothm
Also for the op saying he shouts for tier climbs I have NEVER seen him shout.
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11-14-2012, 05:00 PMKomori
For everyone on here complaining that their server lacks them, should start them. Since it's apparently all people from the same server, you can all go and do VW together.
Bismarck isn't suffering in VW, VW participation has been the same since the nerf. -
11-14-2012, 05:42 PMLuvbunnyThe cities VW and some of the not so popular ones do take longer you are correct, the people who are VW addicts are mostly done or focusing to the popular drops. The newer, casual, or returning players still a bit clueless on VW, don't really care about it, or still busy levelling jobs. But the good thing is you do not need 18 people for these anymore. Cities tier 1-3 can be done with 6-10 people, can bring brew for safety. Cities Tier 4 are still quite popular so you can easily fill spots. Jeuno tier 1 are fairly easy. Jeuno tier 2 can be brewed for some of the NMs should you have less than ideal numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldersyde
I do agree with you, it's harder to find people to participate when they see nothing in return. XP is dime a dozen, cruor has less value now. Though honestly I hardly meet a lot of people who are doing blinker gate on my LS. So cruor still holds value to the people I know, for empyrean brew and whatnot. Then again I am from the casual crowd, not the hardcore who plow through contents in mere days or weeks :P -
11-14-2012, 09:40 PMDemon6324236My problem is not so much with people not shouting, its rather that I noticed a drop in VW shout rates as well as fill speeds. What I mean is, I don't care that there are not 5 Qilin x18 parties a day anymore because I wanted to go oh so bad, I care that there is now only 2 of those a day because it means VW is becoming less popular. At the same time I don't like that the fill times slowed because it means I now get to sit in the VW parties I do wanna do, for twice as long or more just to find what is likely a trivial job anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Komori
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11-14-2012, 10:07 PMSecondplanetso if i was to by your logic of "I don't see means it doesn't exist" then since i've never seen you you must not exist on this server then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iakothm
Unless you sit in Jeuno 24/7 and catalog everyone's shouts (which is kinda creepy) your statement holds no support. -
11-14-2012, 11:03 PMDemon6324236
Well~ I keep an eye on shouts most of the time via another character or AH.com so admittedly its not impossible. I do it simply for watching out for those rare VW shouts I do need but hate to gather people for, like Aello.
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11-15-2012, 05:45 AMTsukino_KajiThat's the thing though, even then "popular" shouts are virtualy nonexistant now. Litteraly the only regular shout that's left in jeuno is the dumb ass RMT that's still charging the same price fleeching even through cruor is now worth half as much... oi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldersyde
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11-15-2012, 09:45 AMIakothmI always am watching shouts yes. And like I said you are never shouting. And as for you never seeing me that kinda proves you don't watch jeuno shouts very much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secondplanet
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11-15-2012, 11:48 AMSecondplanetyou know there are these amazing things called "Time Zones" i know it may be abit much for you to understand but this concept allows everyone to have their own time zone where they clocks are set hours (sometimes 30mins) apart for each other so they all have a "high noon" if you will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iakothm
I've asked my LS crew and none of them heard of you, kinda odd. its like we play at opposite times, like some kind of time warp.... or maybe a TIME ZONE. -
11-15-2012, 12:11 PMCyleenaI am on Asura too, and shouts have slowed way down from what they used to be on this server. I have had a lot of friends complain about it too, especially since the nerf occurred. I don't have the time to sit in PJ watching shouts all day cause I am in a very active Linkshell and am always on the go but a lot of my members have complained about lack of shouts during non-event times. (our events are only 3 days a week, so plenty of time for them to watch them)Quote:
Originally Posted by Iakothm
As far as making shouts my group does make shouts a lot during non-event times like today for Rex we shouted and did it 6x, and we shout for Ig etc whenever we are not doing events or other things. But other then random people shouting once in awhile there really isn't many shouts anymore. I know of people who watched shouts for hours and ended up afking cause they too bored on game cause of lack of shouts during free time. Everyone has different perspective on things, and this is just what me and my group has observed especially since the blinker nerf because no one really needs cruor or wants it now and gear drop rate still sucks for VW. -
11-15-2012, 04:45 PMFynlarYeah, it's not like there isn't already anything on the internet that does that kind of thing.Quote:
Unless you sit in Jeuno 24/7 and catalog everyone's shouts (which is kinda creepy) your statement holds no support.
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11-16-2012, 03:12 AMLuvbunnyThis is like the nightmare of pre-Abyssea era, where you shouts for hours trying to make your party, or seeking while afk and doing something else cuz your job is not the VIP ones. Funny enough, Voidwatch was created in response to player's demand for big LS events (and Legion + Neo Einherjar). There was a resurgence of big LS right after VW was introduced, when at 90 you DO need a big LS that do VW every week for 2-3 times (and for a brief moment, PLD was a must have). Then now we are back at stand still, the fact is the way most people play have changed - read: small groups, log in and play. I wish they let you use your crystal pertifact to purchase those pulse cells. This would really energize VW again since all the ones who do not need the armor anymore can use their crystal to buy pulse cell and sell it at AH. They can make it 1 cells = 200 crystal pertifact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyleena
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11-18-2012, 03:00 PMIakothmTime Zone has nothing to do with it I am on all times of the day. and let's see you can't find vw shouts? 2 different Sandy t1-4 runs today filled up. Amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secondplanet
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11-18-2012, 03:11 PMDemon6324236
It is amazing, on Phoenix win runs take all day to get a full party, and then it ends up failing on the pixie.
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11-19-2012, 06:33 PMKriegsgott
just finished city wins in 1 week with 6 people another week for the jeuno part used few voidclusters only
short version if you want to get anything done just keep going and dont cry.... -
11-22-2012, 02:39 AMKriegsgott
ADD*
5-6 Hours for Zilart T1 > T3
if you want to get pt's quickly done just say 14/18 and you get spammed with job offer's -
11-22-2012, 03:15 AMCaketimeSleeping is for people, amirite?Quote:
Originally Posted by Iakothm
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11-22-2012, 05:49 AMTsukino_KajiSleep is for the week... wait, it's wednesday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caketime