just gonna throw it out there....

4th atma for abyssea ;) yes please

why? Isn't it easy enough already?

just for the fun of it

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Originally Posted by Clou777

just for the fun of it

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Didn't you get the memo from SE? Abyssea was a failure! We should never speak of it again! And fun? Really? What do you think this is, a game?

Seriously though, almost all the abyssea content is easily duoed or trioed already. What do you want, to be able to engage Alfard and AFK to watch TV while you auto-kill it?

For fun, you say. Well, that just doesn't sound very fun to me.

LOL. That is all I can say about this topic.

They have one already, it's called primeval brew.

If it cost 100k Cruor to add the 4th I'd be game. Abyssea is dead content, would be fun to troll around with 4 atma and stomp content.

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Originally Posted by Mirage

Seriously though, almost all the abyssea content is easily duoed or trioed already. What do you want, to be able to engage Alfard and AFK to watch TV while you auto-kill it?

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Is there something wrong with wanting that? Alfard's a jerk anyway.

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Originally Posted by Taint2

If it cost 100k Cruor to add the 4th I'd be game. Abyssea is dead content, would be fun to troll around with 4 atma and stomp content.

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Would it even matter if it was 1 million cruor at this point?

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Originally Posted by Caketime

Is there something wrong with wanting that? Alfard's a jerk anyway.

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Alfard was very nice to my NIN + WHM duo, you sure it's a jerk?

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Originally Posted by Zagen

Alfard was very nice to my NIN + WHM duo, you sure it's a jerk?

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Positive. I employed the same duo to my benefit, he's still a jerk though.

my blm blizzajas for 8k and blizz 5 for 7.5k+ in abyssea. A 4th atma would be nonsense.

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Is there something wrong with wanting that? Alfard's a jerk anyway.

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Azdaja is the Jerk

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my blm blizzajas for 8k and blizz 5 for 7.5k+ in abyssea. A 4th atma would be nonsense.

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Omg...drool...think about it though... Hell's Guardian, Beyond, Ultimate, and Minikin? .... Drool..

Honestly, saying that it would make it even easier doesn't make a lot of sense to me. A fourth atma wouldn't make it much easier than it already is. I guess it'd make some of the fights go faster though. Most of the stuff I can think of that can actually get you killed in Abyssea is because they're percentage based attacks (throat stabs), doom, or impossibly powerful attacks (???? Needles).

Thing is, I would like them to revisit the whole atma idea again applied in a different way someday. Forcing players to think about which atmas to take (Ex: Taking Earth Wyrm + That one Deelgeed Atma VS Tunga, etc) can actually allow players to think of multiple ways of tackling an NM. It's mostly the difficulty that would need monitoring which was what Abyssea lacked a lot of the time. They gave us a list of something like a hundred atma, and only maybe 20 of them have ever seen any use in one way or another outside of player testing.

It would let you equip your three usual DPS atmas as normally, and then you'd still have room for another powerful defensive atma. If your healer can pay even less attention to your hp and status effects than before, that's kind of what the word "easier" means.

Alternatively, if you just went for four dps atmas, where you earlier had to choose between three of aoa, ss, gh and rr, you now no longer need to. You can always get the hp boost of ss, and the agi+counter boost of gh, making you both kill faster and die slower than before.

It wouldn't change the 20 out of 100 atmas issues at all, anyway. The terrible atmas will still be terrible and never used. People would just pick 4 of the 20 good ones at a time instead of 3.

The thing is you can already blow through abyssea content and if anything is to hard you just have to brew.

Turn atma of the savior into an abyssite. Nice well rounded 4th and reward for doing it all without being totally over done.

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Turn atma of the savior into an abyssite. Nice well rounded 4th and reward for doing it all without being totally over done.

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I really like this idea, actually. Atma of the saviour is a pretty crappy reward for doing all the abyssea stuff. But having as an abyssite would be great.

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It wouldn't change the 20 out of 100 atmas issues at all, anyway. The terrible atmas will still be terrible and never used. People would just pick 4 of the 20 good ones at a time instead of 3.

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Oh yeah, I wasn't saying this idea would change it, it was just a general statement.

4th atma reward to those that have completed all aby quests, ops. And acquired all abysites and atmas (normal and synthetic). (100% storyline completion up to the release of aby) Might encourage ppl do finish content'

Sure why not

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If it cost 100k Cruor to add the 4th I'd be game. Abyssea is dead content, would be fun to troll around with 4 atma and stomp content.

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I wish it is a dead content, really truly wish this is the case lol.

It is dead content, sure you will get the odd person farming a empy or who has leveled up a job and they go farm some new gear, however for the most part it is dead content.

I mean a year ago, gl getting claim in heqets aery, he's just sitting up most days waiting for people etc.