Dynamis Reborn!

Abyssea - Dynamis ?

With Trigger Nm to get extencions instead of blue chest and monster yelding exp, can't wait to see the new frontiers of shout:

Fell Cleave Dynamis No key master XD

If this is the case, I hope they will lift the limit of 64 ppl too.

Isn't there dark weather in dynamis? I can't remember.

yes, always double dark weather.
good for drain and aspir enanching item like obi.

So wait.

Wait.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Long established groups who do Dynamis, or even small groups who want to do it every now and then are going to have to contend for stuff inside Dynamis zones? And people will be able to zone in and leech drops, just like they do in Walk of Echoes?

No, no I do not like this at all.

Getting EXP inside is nice and dandy and I welcome this change. But it almost sounds like they're trying to change Dynamis into Abyssea.

Though it hasn't been explicitly stated yet, I'm hoping this also means that there will be no more universal loot pool within Dynamis

I hope they will change the loot system like abyssea is. So your pt/ally your drops. Or at least have a rank system where you cant loot if you didnt fight along the other ppl and contribute enough.

If mobs give experience points, chances are that they won't be universal claim, especially with lots fo people going in and out of the zone at any given time.

And i suppose that they will repop like standard abyssean horde.

The hourglass change is nice.

The removal of zone registration sucks badly.

I am going to assume that the level of the mobs will be ramped up to do this as well, because there are a fair number of jobs that can solo mobs (even groups of mobs) in dynamis as it stands.

Wouldnt want to see a few people monopolise certain areas of dynamis.

(That said, maybe now I can get my pup legs!)

Yea to be perfectly honest i think this is a bad idea. I like the idea of not having to buy a glass over and over again but there should still be zone registration. All this means is players will be able to jump into dynamis whenever they feel like it and lot anything that drops.

This just seems like a terrible idea to me. But that might be because I'm next in line for Shadow Ring. Who knows. :\

if they remove the universal lotting in Dynamis then this is a great idea imo.

I'm sure they will work out the kinks. Worrying some stranger is going to enter Dynamis and lot your 100 is a bit silly, don't you think? It's pretty basic stuff to take care of before the change is released. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Ferris

I'm sure they will work out the kinks. Worrying some stranger is going to enter Dynamis and lot your 100 is a bit silly, don't you think? It's pretty basic stuff to take care of before the change is released. :rolleyes:

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Except its almost exactly how WOE works?

The way I understood how its going to be is Dynamis not having the reservation, which would be sorta like MMM. Where a group could enter then if another group wanted to do they same zone they wouldn't have to wait till that other group exited to enter and do their run. They could just enter and be in their own Dynamis zone separate from the other group not like WoE, where everyone is in one zone and can just leech gear drops and such.

Hopefully this is intended like Maze monger 1 group = 1 copy of area. If we have groups competing to claim NM inside dynamis zones after the update I'm going to be very angry. I know they said trigger items but that just shifts it to competing for said triggers or to be 1st to tag the target while the clock is ticking. I'd much rather it be multiple copies of the area like how nyzul bcnm etc are set up, than setting it up to be like abyssea or WoE. I'm wondering if I should push for some dynamis lord runs before the update just in case...

With server merging, they probably intended to make it instanciable to avoid collisions and frustration

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Originally Posted by Draylo

Except its almost exactly how WOE works?

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Except they have already admitted that WOE sucks and they are going to fix it, so they almost definitely not going to repeat it.

My guess is that we are going to see something like an Abyssea-Dynamis format. Maybe with unique twists, but your own loot pool and your own claims.

Development staff, please listen to the main concern of your players about the new Dynamis development.

To avoid frustration, please do not make this anything like a Walk of Echoes zone. Please make it register to a specific instance for a group of people like Nyzul and Moblin Maze Mongers for example. I can guarantee you that none of your player-base wants Dynamis to be like a universal zone, please make Dynamis into seperate instances.

Bottom line, we do NOT want Dynamis to become Abyssea or Walk of Echoes. PLEASE, with a cherry on top.

Usukane, this.

Shells which have been together for years will be smashed if what I fear is about to happen actually does happen.

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Originally Posted by Starcade

Usukane, this.

Shells which have been together for years will be smashed if what I fear is about to happen actually does happen.

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Thank you.

Dynamis cant be istanced like MMM, because MMM isnt istanced too. the MMM map is like a bigger map composed by the same mini-map repeated 4-5 times. every times someone enter MMM it is placed in one of this mini-map until all the mini-map are occupied and the zone is considered full.

you cant have dynamis works like this because of the map dymension and number of map zone actually free to use.
they will have to totally rework how the map system currently works to do this.

said that...we all hope they do something cool...lets wait till they reveal more juicy details ;)

People still do Dynamis o.O?

I must agree with those that have plead their worry here on the forums about the future of Dynamis.

If Dynamis is made into an Abyssea-like zone, it will totally destroy Dynamis as we know. While MMM is not instance as was said, if they are going to do this to Dynamis they BETTER make instances possible in game. Otherwise chaos will result. Monopolization of mobs or certain areas of Dynamis will ensue. But let's not jump to conclusions folks. Adding xp to mobs in Dynamis is very cool for sure. But if it's SE's intent to make Dynamis into another Abyssea, or GOD FORBID another WoE.... please PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS SE.

Thank you.

if the repops of mob is like abyssea a single map can offer lots of camp where to farm for coin.
leave a clear route to move in the map without aggro so ppl doesnt have to overcamp and the trick is done.

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Originally Posted by Liselle

With server merging, they probably intended to make it instanciable to avoid collisions and frustration

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This is kind of what I thought of as well. O.o I don't think SE would make it open to everyone, that just seems like to much to me.

But if that is indeed what they meant, I can understand everyone's concern. I hope they specify what they're doing exactly to Dynamis.

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Originally Posted by Fiarlia

So wait.

Wait.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Long established groups who do Dynamis, or even small groups who want to do it every now and then are going to have to contend for stuff inside Dynamis zones? And people will be able to zone in and leech drops, just like they do in Walk of Echoes?

No, no I do not like this at all.

Getting EXP inside is nice and dandy and I welcome this change. But it almost sounds like they're trying to change Dynamis into Abyssea.

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^^^ this.

The idea of making mobs yield exp is all well and good, as well as removing the 72 hour wait period. But removing the reservation requirement is going to screw over dynamis linkshells that have been established for years. The level cap increase has already caused established groups to lose out on planned runs because of low man groups, now we are looking at people just being able to enter with out a reservation and leech drops. Walk of Echoes is already bad enough with that. SE I ask that you please reconsider some of the planned updates you have for this particular event. KEEP THE ZONE REGISTRATION!

i dont understand a thing.
WOE wasnt fixed that only ppl contributing enough will get lot on drops?
and they locked entry after an amount of time passed?

one is still able to enter and loot everythings except final chest?

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Originally Posted by Lushipur

i dont understand a thing.
WOE wasnt fixed that only ppl contributing enough will get lot on drops?
and they locked entry after an amount of time passed?

one is still able to enter and loot everythings except final chest?

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Anyone could enter a WoE zone until half of the mobs in that wing had been killed. Anyone before then could enter, sit at the zone entrance, and lot anything that dropped, and indeed this happened quite a bit when I did WoE.

That said, I didn't get the impression that's what they were doing with Dynamis from the announcement. It sounded instanced to me, which amuses me because now that Dynamis is borderline-irrelevant, they're finally giving us something that would've made me very happy a few years ago. Oh well.

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Originally Posted by Aliddotia

Anyone could enter a WoE zone until half of the mobs in that wing had been killed. Anyone before then could enter, sit at the zone entrance, and lot anything that dropped, and indeed this happened quite a bit when I did WoE.

That said, I didn't get the impression that's what they were doing with Dynamis from the announcement. It sounded instanced to me, which amuses me because now that Dynamis is borderline-irrelevant, they're finally giving us something that would've made me very happy a few years ago. Oh well.

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Yeah that's exactly how I felt when I heard the news. I remember REALLY wishing for an instanced Dynamis after rudely being ninja'd out of our own by some notorious jerky linkshells back in the day. ._.; It's not even a problem anymore, but with key item hourglasses making this event easy access, I could see it becoming a high interest again amongst many players.

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Originally Posted by HFX7686

The hourglass change is nice.

The removal of zone registration sucks badly.

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Unless they instance it...who knows?
But from what this sounds like...is a cheap Walk of Echoes remake since barely anyone goes in there...idk that's just me.

I'm curious about how SE will be implementing their Dynamis changes. Depending on how they do so Dynamis linkshells might see a huge revival, or they might be replaced by hordes of pickup (and static) groups... or Dynamis could end up as 'popular' as Garrison or Eco Warrior.

I await these forthcoming changes with no small amounts of both trepidation and anticipation.

Maybe it's just due to the newness of these forums, but after reading this thread I still find myself asking "Where is the original information regarding all these comments?" I don't seem to see any link in the OP nor elsewhere, so I'm unsure where the idea of changes being made to the current Dynamis systems even came from. Please clarify?

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Originally Posted by Almont

Maybe it's just due to the newness of these forums, but after reading this thread I still find myself asking "Where is the original information regarding all these comments?" I don't seem to see any link in the OP nor elsewhere, so I'm unsure where the idea of changes being made to the current Dynamis systems even came from. Please clarify?

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...?p=280#post280

On the main page ( http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/forum.php ) there's a sidebar titled "Dev Tracker" that shows all the posts made by SE staff, including but not limited to update announcements.

Lushi you may want to Edit the post Title to have the Development tag [dev1000] in it otherwise SE may not actually look at this thread! <.<

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Originally Posted by Volkai

On the main page ( http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/forum.php ) there's a sidebar titled "Dev Tracker" that shows all the posts made by SE staff, including but not limited to update announcements.

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Ah, thank you. Yeah, I just dove into some of these subforums and didn't read all of that sidebar first. And.... Yeah... "Reservations will no longer be required to enter the [listed] areas." :mad: DO NOT WANT! I sincerely hope they're going to put something in place of the existing open loot pool.

I still do Dynamis regularly, and still enjoy it, but if they don't think ahead on this it's going to utterly destroy the entire system...

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Originally Posted by Almont

Ah, thank you. Yeah, I just dove into some of these subforums and didn't read all of that sidebar first. And.... Yeah... "Reservations will no longer be required to enter the [listed] areas." :mad: DO NOT WANT! I sincerely hope they're going to put something in place of the existing open loot pool.

I still do Dynamis regularly, and still enjoy it, but if they don't think ahead on this it's going to utterly destroy the entire system...

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There are too many questions as yet unanswered about how they're going to implement these changes to go assuming the worst just yet.

I know I will take fire for this but I don't care.

It's about time that SE woke up and smelled the WOW coffee. There's a reason why Blizzard makes billions on it's games and SE doesn't. It's called "playability".

Look at SE's player base shrinking, shrinking, melting OH what a world. And there's one BIG reason for it. The time it takes to do anything worthwhile in the game. I have been playing this game for 8 years, and frankly I'm applauding SE in it's latest efforts (even though it is quite literally a day late and millions of dollars short).... to make this game more time effective and easier to play, so that good ol' welcome message we recieve when we log in (you know the one, don't forget about your friends family or work).... actually isn't the great SE lie for once. Relics being done in record time! YAY. Currency prices dropping through the floor! YAY. It's about time.

I do agree with some things that have been posted here though. Please SE, make Dynamis instanced, like BCNM's. Do not make it a free-for-all. At least keep SOME of the difficulty in this game so I don't have to deal with 10 year mentality players monopolizing areas of Dynamis. Keep it enjoyable among friends but by all means, make it more accessible. Please don't make me feel that when I walk into Dynamis I just walked into a Kindergarten class.

I guess that's all I have to say about it. Fire at will at me folks.

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Originally Posted by Serafyn

Lushi you may want to Edit the post Title to have the Development tag [dev1000] in it otherwise SE may not actually look at this thread! <.<

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i may be wrong but i put the tag in an apposit section when i first opened the thread ;_;
and i can read it clearly now when im writing this:



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