FINAL FANTASY XI® Seekers of Adoulin

Hello!

A couple of questions about this new expansion:
Will this be released on disc like WoTG (5th expansion).
Why no mention of Playstation2 support on the site and in the video?

The japanese version of the website does have PS2 listed as supported. Not sure where the discrepancy comes from.

Most likely they just didn't feel the need to mention it in the trailer since the system is defunct, and anyone who still plays will already know it's on the PS2. Not to mention that it's not like a new player is going to watch it and think "Oh wow, that's on the PS2? I'd better go grab a used one from Gamestop and try to find the hard drive on eBay!" Though, I wouldn't be shocked to find out that they're doing it totally digitally. Not much sense really in making a disc for it.

It's probably a disc-based expansion, and they probably aren't releasing it for PS2 in the U.S. because it wouldn't be profitable enough.

I think I heard last night it was a full disk based expansion. Not to say it won't be digital as well, but there will probably be perks to buying a retail version over a digital copy. Anyway, I don't blame SE for not mentioning PS2 support, partially because I think SE is trying to trim down the number of PS2 players as much as possible. If they can get the number of ps2 players down to a minimum, then maybe they can have an excuse to drop it, and benefit in more expansions in the future.

You may lament PS2 support but that happens to be the version I play on. Yeah, I do have a computer that can run the game fine but I already own all the PS2 version disks so why go out and buy a whole other version when I already have a perfectly good install already? I find the lack of a US PS2 release distressing as it does mean I will have to more than just buy the new expansion but also a full PC version as well. I feel like I'm being doubly penalized for a game that I've been supporting for the better part of 7 years. Are you saying I'm that much less a customer for play on the PS2? (Honestly I'm playing on the PS3, but I did play on the PS2 for the years preceding the PS3's release).

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

You may lament PS2 support but that happens to be the version I play on. Yeah, I do have a computer that can run the game fine but I already own all the PS2 version disks so why go out and buy a whole other version when I already have a perfectly good install already? I find the lack of a US PS2 release distressing as it does mean I will have to more than just buy the new expansion but also a full PC version as well. I feel like I'm being doubly penalized, here, for a game that I've been supporting for the better part of 7 years. Are you saying I'm that much less a customer for play on the PS2? (Honestly I'm playing on the PS3, but I did play on the PS2 for the years preceding the PS3's release).

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I switched from playing on PS3 to PC, and the only thing I miss is the immersiveness of playing on a TV screen. The graphics are better, you can watch TV while playing FFXI, there's less lag, and there are more options to reduce lag (it's insane that they don't let you turn off weather effects on PS2).

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

I find the lack of a US PS2 release distressing as it does mean I will have to more than just buy the new expansion but also a full PC version as well.

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Would probably make most sense to wait until a cheap-o-collection with everything included in that case. ^^

Last time they did that it was from a download service... oh, wait, they're still offering that on the main site. We'll wait and see how they handle this new expansion.

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Originally Posted by Edyth

I switched from playing on PS3 to PC, and the only thing I miss is the immersiveness of playing on a TV screen. The graphics are better, you can watch TV while playing FFXI, there's less lag, and there are more options to reduce lag (it's insane that they don't let you turn off weather effects on PS2).

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Why play on a monitor? I have my desktop hooked up to a 42" HDTV with HDMI.

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Originally Posted by JiltedValkyrie

Why play on a monitor? I have my desktop hooked up to a 42" HDTV with HDMI.

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This is what I do too. I stayed on PS2 for a while, despite always having a PC that could support the game, simply because I saw no good reason to go through the download and install process when PS2 was working fine. I finally switched when PS2 would freeze at every ToAU cut scene.

I don't give a flying fig one way or the other if PS2 support continues, but I can honestly say for the record that I don't miss anything about playing on PS2. I have the comfort of console in my recliner and a USB controller and an HDMI hookup to the TV. The game updates faster on PC, I never freeze on NPCs, it looks better, and man do I love being able to turn off weather effects. If I want to watch TV while playing I just unplug the HDMI, switch inputs on the TV and watch the game on a decent monitor.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

Are you saying I'm that much less a customer for play on the PS2?

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Yes, because you're holding up the development and progress of the entire game, hurting SE and other players in the process, including yourself because you're settling for a much worse game than it could be. Shame on you.

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Originally Posted by Edyth

I switched from playing on PS3 to PC, and the only thing I miss is the immersiveness of playing on a TV screen.

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You can still play on a TV, with even better graphics.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

You may lament PS2 support but that happens to be the version I play on. Yeah, I do have a computer that can run the game fine but I already own all the PS2 version disks so why go out and buy a whole other version when I already have a perfectly good install already? I find the lack of a US PS2 release distressing as it does mean I will have to more than just buy the new expansion but also a full PC version as well. I feel like I'm being doubly penalized for a game that I've been supporting for the better part of 7 years. Are you saying I'm that much less a customer for play on the PS2? (Honestly I'm playing on the PS3, but I did play on the PS2 for the years preceding the PS3's release).

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Why would you have to buy PC install discs? They aren't copy protected, and don't require registration codes to log into an existing account, so you could just borrow discs from a friend that plays on PC, or get the installer from a friend that did a digital download purchase. You have to buy PS2 and Xbox discs because they have copy protection, but not so for PC. BlueGartr has one of many solutions for you.

As for playing on PS2, for years it was the most stable version of the game. If you don't run Windows, it's hard to play the PC version, and if you do, you have to deal with all the support programs that run in the background (antivirus, Windows update, and in the case of my system the server software since it's also my media server for the house). PS2 just boots right up into the game and isn't likely to crash on you except for stuff since WotG, because SE stopped fixing issues that would cause cutscenes to lock for that expansion.

When I tried to make the switch to PC, they didn't support my graphics card well, and after a patch I was getting 3-12 FPS outside the mog house. I couldn't do my mission set party without being on my PS2. No driver I could find for my card, which was more then capable of the game until that patch, would raise my frame rate, making my WHM useless for targeting and healing. I stayed on PS2 a good while longer because I didn't have to fuss with drivers, or spend more money trying to get a different graphics card. It had to wait until my next PC 3 years later before I wanted to try running PC version again. PS2 at least has consistent behaviour, because the system is standardized.

Hmm... no official answer listed anywhere, though it seems like it will be business as usual.
Say, we did get forced to "Upgrade HDD space or be unable to play" etc.

There are people who play on playstation, i am one of them but i do also have this on Xbox 360 as well. What platform people play on should not matter. Remember this is a cross-platform game after all and supports many languages as well. :D

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Originally Posted by bungiefanNA

Why would you have to buy PC install discs? They aren't copy protected, and don't require registration codes to log into an existing account, so you could just borrow discs from a friend that plays on PC, or get the installer from a friend that did a digital download purchase.

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Oddly, not everyone knows someone/is friends with/lives next to someone who plays FFXI, much less plays it on PC. Unless you're willing to send me your copy in the mail I'm still going to be forced to get the PC version along with the expansion just to play in the new area. It's best not to assume that everyone personally knows someone else who plays, it's just not the case nor has it ever really been so.

I'm curious how it's possible to play an MMO and not have any friends.

I play a couple MMOs, I have several friends. Do you know how often those two lines cross? Not very. Change the first one to specific MMOs and those lines don't cross at all. It's not that rare a thing in the U.S.

torrent the fricking ISOs

seriously, I have FFXI on 3 computers and never once have I had the install discs or purchased a PC copy

and nothing on PC makes it hard to play anywhere, hook an HDMI up and play on the couch with a PS3 controller, and at least then you can fix the massive blur the PS2 has on newer TVs, as well as inject some supersampling so you can make out what the characters look like

and so much less performance issues even with a mediocre PC

but seriously stop playing on PS2, or don't play Seekers of Adoulin, your choice.

like the above user said, just go download a torrent with the installation software in it. hell if nothin else, you can get the game and like every expansion + mini expansion with the abyssea collection for like $20. this is very affordable, as opposed to the xbox and ps2 versions of the game, which are so outrageously priced ppl just play on pc anyways. i'm broke as shit cause i have bills and shit to pay, car upkeep and maintenance, a cat to feed, and even with all that shit i still have an extra $20 to spare... even if you don't have $20 extra to spare, hell save up loose change in your couch for like 2 weeks or somethin >.>

So basically, I'm glad that they're adding new content to the game because they needed it. Mind you, they still have to address the existing problems in regards to old or dead content.

I'm also glad that they're starting to think outside of the box. I'm really looking forward to the new expansion.

However, one thing I don't agree with is their decision not to try and attract brand new players. I feel that this is a critical mistake on SE's part.


http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/story.html?story=29967

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Originally Posted by BST

Hmm... no official answer listed anywhere, though it seems like it will be business as usual.
Say, we did get forced to "Upgrade HDD space or be unable to play" etc.

There are people who play on playstation, i am one of them but i do also have this on Xbox 360 as well. What platform people play on should not matter. Remember this is a cross-platform game after all and supports many languages as well. :D

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Originally Posted by Anapingofness

So basically, I'm glad that they're adding new content to the game because they needed it. Mind you, they still have to address the existing problems in regards to old or dead content.

I'm also glad that they're starting to think outside of the box. I'm really looking forward to the new expansion.

However, one thing I don't agree with is their decision not to try and attract brand new players. I feel that this is a critical mistake on SE's part.


http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/story.html?story=29967

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From the second page of the same write-up

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FinalFantasy.de: There is no version of Final Fantasy XI for the PS3. Are there any plans to develop one? In Europe, there are no HDDs available for the PS2.

A: At the moment, there are no plans to develop a PS3 version. They already have the PS2 game, and they plan to continue supporting the PS2. They don't feel it would be the best use of resources to work on the PS3. Unfortunately, Square Enix is not a hardware manufacturer. They would love to release a HDD, but there is nothing they can do.

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Just wanted to mention for those who do not know, that it is actually a violation of the User Agreement to even borrow them discs, so this might not be the best place to suggest such means of acquiring the data. ^^;

Not pointing at, or giving the wag of any fingers to anyone!
Just sayin'~

Not that they enforce the particular rules much, if at all, but yeah, I think it's something good to know.


I do wonder what they will do with the outside of Japan PS2 support, as it would seem like an expansion that indeed warrants physical release, like with Wings of the Goddess for example. Nowadays there are digital options for all those as well, but I don't know if it would be possible for the PS2 in particular...

One thing that would be great if that more than one account could be linked to an xbox account. My brother had a xbox mule he deleted and if PS2 dies in america he doesn't want to spend another $50 for a new xbox account to link it to.

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Originally Posted by Spiritreaver

From the second page of the same write-up

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Okay so from that interview there, PS2 will continue for JP/NA (never had EU release) and there wont be a release for PS3 or PSVita.
Kinda funny Square would like to release a HDD for EU PS2 players(if i read that right) yet "They don't feel it would be the best use of resources to work on the PS3". :o

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Originally Posted by BST

Okay so from that interview there, PS2 will continue for JP/NA (never had EU release) and there wont be a release for PS3 or PSVita.
Kinda funny Square would like to release a HDD for EU PS2 players(if i read that right) yet "They don't feel it would be the best use of resources to work on the PS3". :o

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Of course it wouldn't in their opinion. If ppl had a souped up version that was made for PS3, they might not make that jump to XIV when its planned PS3 version hits.

Just me guessing, but the HDD comment was prolly in regards to how Sony handled the HDD everywhere except Japan.

Greetings,

I’d like to take a moment to clarify which platform Seekers of Adoulin will be available on for those that have been asking. We will continue to support North American FINAL FANTASY XI players on the PlayStation 2, Xbox 360 and PC (Windows) platforms. However, FINAL FANTASY XI: Seekers of Adoulin will only be available on the Xbox 360 and Windows platforms in North America when it is released in 2013.

Bookmarked this thread. Popcorn get.

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Originally Posted by Dazusu

Bookmarked this thread. Popcorn get.

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haha, laughing so hard RN.

I'm shocked they are seriously gonna do this.

especially since they giving the ps2 version to jps.

It's hardly surprising. What retailers carry new PS2 games?

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings,

I’d like to take a moment to clarify which platform Seekers of Adoulin will be available on for those that have been asking. We will continue to support North American FINAL FANTASY XI players on the PlayStation 2, Xbox 360 and PC (Windows) platforms. However, FINAL FANTASY XI: Seekers of Adoulin will only be available on the Xbox 360 and Windows platforms in North America when it is released in 2013.

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Just out of curiosity, why will the new expansion not be available on the PS2 for North America? What will be done with customers who only play on the PS2?

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Originally Posted by Keyln

Just out of curiosity, why will the new expansion not be available on the PS2 for North America? What will be done with customers who only play on the PS2?

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Nothing will be done. You'll have to suck it up.

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Originally Posted by Keyln

Just out of curiosity, why will the new expansion not be available on the PS2 for North America? What will be done with customers who only play on the PS2?

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no/little profit

PS2 players have had about 6 years to upgrade. If you play on PS2(a 13 year old system, it's time to upgrade) -_-

well thats a great bs , i understand that cds cant be made but u should give us at least the download choice ... for years now we been complaining about npc stucking , blackouts and freezes and the jp get all the support they need we get nothing i despise playing on pc i do it on ps2 version on ps3 i m seriously disappointed how SE did this ....

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Originally Posted by seya

well thats a great bs , i understand that cds cant be made but u should give us at least the download choice ... for years now we been complaining about npc stucking , blackouts and freezes and the jp get all the support they need we get nothing i despise playing on pc i do it on ps2 version on ps3 i m seriously disappointed how SE did this ....

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Get yourself a usb controller and you'll never notice the difference, besides not getting stuck on npcs, black screens, and freezes, but I guess that's what is so great about ps2.

Idk whats the worst SE for ignoring us or the people on this forum for not supporting theyr community , i say once i own a pc version i hate it , i been asking for a ps3 version like a lot people for a long time and yet this forum dont support that as well as far i m concerned you all pc loving people always blame all things wrong on the game on ps2 users , even if they really take ps2 out the picture you probally move to xbox next , seriously u just want a reason to complain ...
This game was coded for ps2 , Se wont change that no mater what

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Originally Posted by seya

well thats a great bs , i understand that cds cant be made but u should give us at least the download choice ... for years now we been complaining about npc stucking , blackouts and freezes and the jp get all the support they need we get nothing i despise playing on pc i do it on ps2 version on ps3 i m seriously disappointed how SE did this ....

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If this helps you or anybody else, it is possible to obtain gamepads very much like PS2 controllers and the most basic one works well for lots of stuff and very cheap. For ten more bucks, there's a wireless option.

If it's some other part of the "playing stuffs on PC" experience that sucks for you, such as wanting to play on a big TV rather than a small monitor, odds are very good that there's also an affordable way around it. For all the stuff a technology-fearing caveman like me, a guy who actively does not want a facebook account or the ability to check his e-mail with his phone, hates about computers...I like how flexible and cheap a gaming medium a computer can be if a little work is put in.

It's surprising sometimes. This doesn't mean every problem that everybody has with playing on a computer can be fixed, of course, but there are a ton of options for how to play compared to a console.

I can't imagine what would cause someone to hate playing on a PC unless they were playing on a pentium II. If you need a controller and a big screen you can pick up everything you need to make that happen while you are buying the expansion for an extra 15-30 dollars. Anyone who doesn't have a PC hooked up to their TV at this point for any of the million other reason besides ffxi should burn their bugle boy jeans, unhook their laser disc player, and join the rest of us in the YEAR TWO-THOUSAND AND TWELVE *echo* *echo* *echo*

It would have been a great opportunity for SE to drop PS2 support and get rid of PS2 limitations alltogether have they not chosen to release new expansion on PS2 JP onry. Instead JP market gets special treatment, everyone else ends up being a second grade category.
It has very little to do with being able to assemble a FFXI-capable PC for $50. JP customers could've done that too, no? Just sucks being treated second-grade customer by Square Enix Co., Ltd.

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Originally Posted by Milva

It would have been a great opportunity for SE to drop PS2 support and get rid of PS2 limitations

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It would require SE to do something that they aren't going to do to get rid of limitations, and that something isn't dropping PS2.