Healing Avatar Idea: Seraph

So, I've brought the idea up before and here it is fleshed out.

I think we as Summoners could use an Avatar dedicated to healing for those moments where the healer disconnects or you simply don't have a job leveled that can effectively be a healer but don't want to be excluded from events for that reason.

Seraph appeared in only one Final Fantasy title that I can recall (FFVI). It's use was as a healer with the spells: Raise, Cura, Cure, Regen, and Esuna.

Now to make this apply as an avatar in the world of XI I could see it getting Rage abilities similar to a Dancer's Sambas.They could inflict a bit of damage while putting a status on the monster that would allow attackers to drain HP. Or conversely they could apply an effect that would make the en-drain effect actually drain HP (but this could be overpowered).

Seraph's abilities would more likely follow the Ward route, however. It could learn single target cures up to 5 (BP's have 45sec-1min timer so it wouldn't steal the limelight from White Mage). It could learn curaga's up to 3. It's Favor could increase cure potency in tiers by 3% to a maximum of 12%, maybe 15% if it wouldn't make things too easy. It's 2 hour could be like Benediction only curing say 20% less and only the -na status effects. Maybe it could even learn -na-ra's haha, or just the -na's but have a chance to aoe like WHM does with AF3+1/2 head. Maybe na's could go in the rage section or something.

Another thought on the drain effect, maybe its melee hits would have a drain samba effect of it's own.

What would you all like to see in a healing (not buffing, that'd be a tad too powerful) avatar that wouldn't steal the life from, but could enhance or settle as a replacement for the standard healers? Discuss! :)

Edit: I excluded raise since most desirable sub jobs for SMN would have that. Plus that would be a little intense.

What about Asura, queen of summoned monsters? :D

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Originally Posted by Glitch

What about Asura, queen of summoned monsters? :D

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Haha, with the 1/3 chance it had for a cure I could see it playing off as a nifty Avatar incorporating the mechanics of Alexander/Odin but with a Corsair's Wild Card. Use 2hr summon Asura and it would either buffga (fail basically), Curaga the party (possibly to full), or raisega (good if there are multiple dead persons). But this is a Seraph thread! Go start an Asura thread >:P

What do you think would be better an improved Light Spirit AI with quicker casts & improvements/ augments/ additions to existing avatars wards or a new avatar dedicated to healing?

PS. And should this be another thread? lol

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Originally Posted by Strife

What do you think would be better an improved Light Spirit AI with quicker casts & improvements/ augments/ additions to existing avatars wards or a new avatar dedicated to healing?

PS. And should this be another thread? lol

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Well I'll bite (but do think thats worthy of its own thread) and say that an avatar would be better, in my opinion. The light spirit is good and all but is limited by not being able to choose spells and I wouldn't trust AI adjustments (PUP's healer frame as an example). The MP cost would be more of an issue and you can't use Avatar's Favor to lower the perpetuation cost of them. There are only 3 avatars that have a form of cure at the moment: Garuda, Leviathan and Carbuncle. All other wards are enfeebles or buffs.

And as for Seraph, it could be incorporated in an Abyssea story-line fairly easily (an avatar to try and restore what's been destroyed or something). But I'm sure "PS2 limitations" would reign supreme all the more :P

I'm not sure that's why I asked lol. Don't get me wrong I would love some new avatars in fact I wish they were like Espers & we had tons of them just because I love summons! If that was the case though we'd still probably just use the most helpful & the rest would sit in our spell list unused which is already what is happening a lot of the time with some existing avatars & is something I'd like to see changed. It's always tempting to say "Give us more avatars! more! more! MORE!" but I'd like to see our existing spirits, avatars & abilities still be useful.

That being said "Give us more avatars! more! more! MORE!" lol.

Always like to be able to have a elemental spirit out at same time as a Avatar. Have light spirit out and carbuncle out would boost healing effect reduce bp timer etc. Though there be it + and - your spirit would be in a consent /cover mode and doesn't cast spell like it normally would. But having it out doesn't cost you mp only Avatar cost you a few ticks more perhaps. Pretty open to a balance way though :P

I think it'd just be easier to add HR3. I do like the idea of having a spirit and a avatar out. Think of the poor PCs that would die though!

I also preferred having multiple avatars like in FF7 and others. I dont really care if the ward/rage bp would be similar or identical. Its just nice to have the choice :) Spirits on the other hand i dont often use.

I'm pretty sure you are supposed to use light spirit for this. Assuming SE ever cares about a pet being a capable healer or not.

Light spirit does have it uses just like to see all spirit's have there own mp pool they use to cast spell's and when there out of mp have to resummon them and don't cost you so much perp to keep them out.

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Originally Posted by Odintius

Always like to be able to have a elemental spirit out at same time as a Avatar. Have light spirit out and carbuncle out would boost healing effect reduce bp timer etc. Though there be it + and - your spirit would be in a consent /cover mode and doesn't cast spell like it normally would. But having it out doesn't cost you mp only Avatar cost you a few ticks more perhaps. Pretty open to a balance way though :P

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best realistic idea evar! It makes sense to me...

well seraph would be a cool idea to balance out diabolos and fenrir heals or not

Nobody has mentioned Phoenix yet. I haven't done my research yet because I was hoping to either hear about it or read up on it from SE.
I'm surprised Phoenix is still on the waiting list. She would be both firaga dmg (to mobs) with the effect of rebirth (raise for allies). As epic as it would seem, would it be possible to make it a normal summon or a 2-hour summon like Odin and Alexander? Another type of summon perhaps, if so, how would it be used?

I'm all for Phoenix, too many deaths going on/ will happen and I'm sure it's because from 90-100... it'll be tough, incredibly tough or the god of all god-modes: Chaos!


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Phoenix is being discussed in another thread.

As much as I would love another avatar, I think I would rather see one focused more on light based damage rather than healing. Carbuncle is already the healing avatar imo with healing and pro/shell BPs (sorta), then there is also light spirit and of course, most summoners will be subbing whm or sch if they're going to be around other people that might need a raise. I dont think another avatar could really change that.

We have 2 dark based avatars already, as well as a strong one for each other element, but carby is obviously weaker than the rest (even if that is balanced out by his lower perp cost). I'd rather see an avatar that can do light based dmg comparitive to the BPs of our other avatars