Moogle egg

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So what is this for?

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Originally Posted by Crawlerbasher

So what is this for?

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Originally Posted by Gildrein

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Yeah, I have no clue what that says either without replying on an awful machine translation, but it looks like our Japanese friends are doing an egg hunt (I think I remember they were also getting some form of prize for it too).

There have been a few more of these things laying around you might have noticed, in towns (I think I remember seeing one stuck in an Auction House's window) and in dungeons. It is pretty clever and maybe next year we might see this as part of the egg event... it certainly would be a less frustrating way of getting extra eggs then relying on disrupting HELM with random eggs once per game day.

looks like a fun event.
Shame its not a global event :(

A Japanese player only event? That is really very disappointing.

Nothing new in region-X-only stuff in this game, though (like the recent moogle-stick thing).
I mean it's all good they do fun stuff for the players but I still think it should be for everyone, or no one.

It is disappointing to say the very least.

Seeing as how this is a contest with visual elements in the actual game, it's extremely disappointing to see that the contest wasn't also carried over to other regions. A screenshot caption contest or something like that is one thing, but when its in the game and players around the world are finding the items, it makes little sense to have it only be for one group of players.

Would love to hear the reason behind not having this contest available in NA and EU.

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Originally Posted by Fusionx

Seeing as how this is a contest with visual elements in the actual game, it's extremely disappointing to see that the contest wasn't also carried over to other regions. A screenshot caption contest or something like that is one thing, but when its in the game and players around the world are finding the items, it makes little sense to have it only be for one group of players.

Would love to hear the reason behind not having this contest available in NA and EU.

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Didn't they already say they are restricted by laws for events in other countries, that's not to say they can't eventually do a NA and EU version.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher

Didn't they already say they are restricted by laws for events in other countries, that's not to say they can't eventually do a NA and EU version.

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That's been mentioned in the past yes, but I believe it was more focused towards gambling type events ie mogbonanza

Yeah, the screen-shot caption and such aren't exactly happening in-game, but they're rewarding in-game items and being a collector, I just don't like that way of doing it. :|

I mean not that I would win anything, but when not even given the chance, it is disappointing.

As for laws and whatnots, sure, that I can understand when and if there are real-life items as prizes. But when the rewards are only in-game, this does not fly, at all.

Maybe that's just me, though.

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Originally Posted by Dragoy

Yeah, the screen-shot caption and such aren't exactly happening in-game, but they're rewarding in-game items and being a collector, I just don't like that way of doing it. :|

I mean not that I would win anything, but when not even given the chance, it is disappointing.

As for laws and whatnots, sure, that I can understand when and if there are real-life items as prizes. But when the rewards are only in-game, this does not fly, at all.

Maybe that's just me, though.

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But there is those laws. Not going into how many laws are stupid, but it's not the first time the laws have been questionable, doesn't change that they must be followed.

As a random note: a lot of laws carry over into MMORPG's it's not surprising these ones do as well.

I would love for you to show us these laws lol. Not saying they don't exist, just wondering about these laws.

Just google (country) competition laws which FFXI is bound by despite being a game, and not rewarding real items.

Its a baby moogle!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Godofgods

Its a baby moogle!!!!!!!!

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From an egg... so moogles are repltiles, fish or birds, not mammals? I suppose they do have wings...

I saw one deep within Mamook also. I was wondering wtf that was about.

Me and a buddy saw one by the Fay Spring in Grauberg [S]. Clicking it said it was part of an official forum event.

Greetings!

As many of you have noticed by spying a few eggs scattered about, our Japanese counterparts were holding an Easter Egg Hunt event via the forum in conjunction with in-game elements.

I understand that some of you may be disappointed that it was a Japanese-specific event, but please keep in mind that their event was no different from our previous contests which were for the NA region (for example, there was no “Most Interesting Moogle” or “Moogle’s Law” equivalent on the Japan side).

With that said, we are also planning on utilizing in-game content for future events as well, in addition to what we’ve been doing on the forums thus far! Hopefully that clears things up! :)

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Originally Posted by Babekeke

From an egg... so moogles are repltiles, fish or birds, not mammals? I suppose they do have wings...

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It is possible that they are Monotremes like the platypus or echidna.

Who else thinks that this feels like a 21 and 24 conversation?

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings!

As many of you have noticed by spying a few eggs scattered about, our Japanese counterparts were holding an Easter Egg Hunt event via the forum in conjunction with in-game elements.

I understand that some of you may be disappointed that it was a Japanese-specific event, but please keep in mind that their event was no different from our previous contests which were for the NA region (for example, there was no “Most Interesting Moogle” or “Moogle’s Law” equivalent on the Japan side).

With that said, we are also planning on utilizing in-game content for future events as well, in addition to what we’ve been doing on the forums thus far! Hopefully that clears things up! :)

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We can understand that it is an area-specific contest like the Most Interesting Moogle in the World, but you would be hard-pressed to say that a text-only contest is anywhere remotely near as cool as an in game event. Especially since the Egg Hunt has been pretty much the same since 2004. (Same mechanics, just new combinations of letters.)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't we NA's have Easter and egg hunts too? Why were we left out?
I can understand that in JP they might not have the "most interesting man in the world" commercials, so our event would be mostly meaningless to them, but Easter was not meaningless to us.

Sir, I am insulted and feel as if I have been biased against.

I don't think the JP and NA community teams work together for event planning.

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Originally Posted by Asymptotic

I don't think the JP and NA community teams work together for event planning.

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The JPs make thier own events and then tell us about it later.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings!

As many of you have noticed by spying a few eggs scattered about, our Japanese counterparts were holding an Easter Egg Hunt event via the forum in conjunction with in-game elements.

I understand that some of you may be disappointed that it was a Japanese-specific event, but please keep in mind that their event was no different from our previous contests which were for the NA region (for example, there was no “Most Interesting Moogle” or “Moogle’s Law” equivalent on the Japan side).

With that said, we are also planning on utilizing in-game content for future events as well, in addition to what we’ve been doing on the forums thus far! Hopefully that clears things up! :)

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How about a ballista competition on the test server :D

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

How about a ballista competition on the test server :D

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This would be awesome and I would like to work towards doing something like that in the future (trust me it has been on my mind!). I can't make any promises, but give me some time and I will see what I can do :)

How about real PVP?

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Originally Posted by Savlyn

How about real PVP?

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youd rather wow PVP where everyone thinks their the hero and trys to solo the other team, while feeding them points? yea ill take organized PVP any day over random wanabeheros funkin up my PVP games.

im so sick of hitting a random Warsong gulch and having my team get stomped because some freaking Elemental shaman or warlock thinks they can Flag cary more effecively then a holy pally, an resto shaman, or a resto druid >_>

ill take FF11s petra system ANY day over most WOW BG's.

Any Guild Wars Competitive mission or PVP designated area in it beats WoW and FF put together in replayability.

In my opinion FF needs competitive missions not just random kills for epeen flaunting, I dont know about you guy but trowing a rock inside some lil tower is not really fun maybe escort defend a NPC carrying something would make for a more united team feel cus it makes the whole team work together for one goal.

The special individual medals can just go away, the system they use to issue them is not "Balanced" and fair for some jobs past lvl 60 cap so a more even exp/gil/w.e reward for the entire alliance would be far more suitable.

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Originally Posted by hideka

youd rather wow PVP where everyone thinks their the hero and trys to solo the other team, while feeding them points? yea ill take organized PVP any day over random wanabeheros funkin up my PVP games.

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Yes, because of "real PVP" I was definitely referring to WoW.

/sarcasm off.

Is it possible for people not to rage over everything on this forum? "Real PvP" doesn't have to be WoW PvP. Hell, it doesn't have to be like any other game's. SE could make up a completely new one for all I care. As long as it's actually fun at a level higher than 60 cap and we can change gear without being penalized. Pretty much anything other than this current system would be a welcomed change.

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we can change gear without being penalized.

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This will not go away unless character blinking goes away, because the whole reason the penalty exists is so that you can't abuse blinking to make it hard for people to target you. (a better way of blocking this would be to simply block gear changes, so that people don't unintentionally switch gear and get hit with the penalty or have to make special macros just for ballista)

Besides, it comes with a simple work around: Build a stronger all-around gear set. instead of minmaxing on a per-action basis, for PvP.

Besides this, the pvp system only has three main issues:

-JA/spell/WS balance, mainly at higher levels (new stuff post 75 has not really been considered at all)- it's not terrible, but it could be improved
-Ease of access. the requirements to participate and the process of signing up and the schedule and such is rather cumbersome and deters more on-the-fence people from participating (people I sek tend to lose interest before they've even gained access to a match if they haven't already done the license quest)
-Lack of any real reward whatsoever (Gil only changes hands and isn't gained or lost, EXP is pathetic, and no item rewards, not even pvp-specific ones)

The gameplay itself of ballista is pretty solid and the party-based nature of the game lends to good team tactics and such.

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In my opinion FF needs competitive missions not just random kills for epeen flaunting, I dont know about you guy but trowing a rock inside some lil tower is not really fun

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You can make anything sound unfun by oversimplifying it. Like your idea for example:

" I dont know about you guy but followin some lil npc around is not really fun"

Maybe the objective seems... sanitized, to you- but whether it's 'some lil tower' or an NPC or undefined pixelized pieces of poo, the objective can be anything- it simply needs to be a device which drives teamwork- which the rook and petras achieve. You can't be a one man hero in ballista- you need to use teamwork to outscore the opponents. Ballista is portrayed as a sport because the three nations are not in direct conflict with eachother. To have PvP more like WoW or other games would require lore which creates a war or other conflict between the factions/cities/whatever that the players are part of.

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Originally Posted by Savlyn

Yes, because of "real PVP" I was definitely referring to WoW.

/sarcasm off.

Is it possible for people not to rage over everything on this forum? "Real PvP" doesn't have to be WoW PvP. Hell, it doesn't have to be like any other game's. SE could make up a completely new one for all I care. As long as it's actually fun at a level higher than 60 cap and we can change gear without being penalized. Pretty much anything other than this current system would be a welcomed change.

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~snaps fingers~ darn, when you said real pvp the first thing that came to mind was padded armor, helmets and beating people with those foam bats >.> I'm disappointed now.

I just guessed Camate would be on the move.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

How about a ballista competition on the test server :D

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This would be awesome and I would like to work towards doing something like that in the future (trust me it has been on my mind!). I can't make any promises, but give me some time and I will see what I can do :)

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How about something like as seen on Vana-TV, hmm? :p

Perhaps throw in a special SlowBrew mode, whatever that would be (as a side-note, that is what my first LS was, and still is called, and it was created many years ago before any Primeval Brews so it doesn't come from that).

You'll need Mayayamn for the commentary, though!

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Originally Posted by Camate

This would be awesome and I would like to work towards doing something like that in the future (trust me it has been on my mind!). I can't make any promises, but give me some time and I will see what I can do :)

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No items, Paladin only, FINAL DESTINATION.

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Originally Posted by Camate

This would be awesome and I would like to work towards doing something like that in the future (trust me it has been on my mind!). I can't make any promises, but give me some time and I will see what I can do :)

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/salute =)

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Originally Posted by Zubis

No items, Paladin only, FINAL DESTINATION.

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Fark final destination! must play on Flatland

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings!

As many of you have noticed by spying a few eggs scattered about, our Japanese counterparts were holding an Easter Egg Hunt event via the forum in conjunction with in-game elements.

I understand that some of you may be disappointed that it was a Japanese-specific event, but please keep in mind that their event was no different from our previous contests which were for the NA region (for example, there was no “Most Interesting Moogle” or “Moogle’s Law” equivalent on the Japan side).

With that said, we are also planning on utilizing in-game content for future events as well, in addition to what we’ve been doing on the forums thus far! Hopefully that clears things up! :)

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I think if all the players are supposed to share the same world then we should be sharing the same rewards. What is the difference of having "American Only" "Japanese Only" contests for the game, then getting upset at players when they do shouts for "English Only" "Japanese Only" parties? At least maybe if we are going to be seperated, have simultaneous events for each region? Ones that give the exact same rewards to the exact same amount of players. Does not have to be the same contest but something similar. Just seems doing them seperately and giving different things causes more problems then its worth and gives some people more reasons to want to segregate in the game. Just my opinion though.

There's plenty of reason for contests to be localized- especially if prizes are being awarded, because of regional item avialability, they might not be able to offer the same prizes in the same regions at the same time. Thus it's up to each region's community team to come up with these events.

SE would be really stupid if they thought nobody would notice these things- that is why they'll be doing something else for us down the line. Who knows, maybe they figured NA interest in the forum game they came up with wouldn't be as high as with the JP forum community. After all, it was a forum game and people who didn't visit the forums, whether they be NA or JP, wouldn't have known about it.

If you wanted to, you could use Player Event Support to have your own easter egg hunt just like the one they had. That's why the eggs say "Moogle"- the GMs were just using the same system they use for the player events through the event support system.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

This will not go away unless character blinking goes away, because the whole reason the penalty exists is so that you can't abuse blinking to make it hard for people to target you. (a better way of blocking this would be to simply block gear changes, so that people don't unintentionally switch gear and get hit with the penalty or have to make special macros just for ballista)

Besides, it comes with a simple work around: Build a stronger all-around gear set. instead of minmaxing on a per-action basis, for PvP.

Besides this, the pvp system only has three main issues:

-JA/spell/WS balance, mainly at higher levels (new stuff post 75 has not really been considered at all)- it's not terrible, but it could be improved
-Ease of access. the requirements to participate and the process of signing up and the schedule and such is rather cumbersome and deters more on-the-fence people from participating (people I sek tend to lose interest before they've even gained access to a match if they haven't already done the license quest)
-Lack of any real reward whatsoever (Gil only changes hands and isn't gained or lost, EXP is pathetic, and no item rewards, not even pvp-specific ones)

The gameplay itself of ballista is pretty solid and the party-based nature of the game lends to good team tactics and such.


You can make anything sound unfun by oversimplifying it. Like your idea for example:

" I dont know about you guy but followin some lil npc around is not really fun"

Maybe the objective seems... sanitized, to you- but whether it's 'some lil tower' or an NPC or undefined pixelized pieces of poo, the objective can be anything- it simply needs to be a device which drives teamwork- which the rook and petras achieve. You can't be a one man hero in ballista- you need to use teamwork to outscore the opponents. Ballista is portrayed as a sport because the three nations are not in direct conflict with eachother. To have PvP more like WoW or other games would require lore which creates a war or other conflict between the factions/cities/whatever that the players are part of.

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Oh but i disagre. you Can be a one man hero in ballista.
You can come out on top even if your team loses just by scoring big in medals, and if you played long enough back in the day you know thats all it turned into.

Who played for the exp/gil reward? nobody...
Its all about diorama points and medals.

Maybe my idea needs some polish because it was off the top of my head, but it makes a lot more sense then the soccer game they make you play in ballista... oh wait in soccer at least you have a chance at scoring even if theres people defending the goal.... so it sucks more then soccer and its just as painfull to watch...

Okay maybe escorting & protecting a npc isnt your cup of tea, i welcome any sugestions from you or anyone that doesnt just want 1 million gil/cruor reward from it every match.
And who can see 'sport' & 'Lore' as the problem with adding a competitive mission when i have a floating furry butler at home that can bring my power down to lvl 1 at my own command... see what i did there?

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

There's plenty of reason for contests to be localized- especially if prizes are being awarded, because of regional item avialability, they might not be able to offer the same prizes in the same regions at the same time. Thus it's up to each region's community team to come up with these events.

SE would be really stupid if they thought nobody would notice these things- that is why they'll be doing something else for us down the line. Who knows, maybe they figured NA interest in the forum game they came up with wouldn't be as high as with the JP forum community. After all, it was a forum game and people who didn't visit the forums, whether they be NA or JP, wouldn't have known about it.

If you wanted to, you could use Player Event Support to have your own easter egg hunt just like the one they had. That's why the eggs say "Moogle"- the GMs were just using the same system they use for the player events through the event support system.

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The game itself isn't what made people upset. It was the the prizes and not being able to obtain that prize. The Euro player base was very upset at the NA forum game and the JPN egg hunt game because they have been excluded from both and their community team hasn't done many if any exclusive events. The JPN game offered more chances at the prize which was something that also made players upset. But still that is the thing, the seperation like this just fuels the seperation that some players have for other players of another region. I'm just saying that to attempt to make things of equal playing ground the events should be similar with the same amount of prizes awarded and the same prize. Creating an in-game event is one thing that can bring joy to the player base if people are willing to participate, this much is true. But with the lack of a special prize such as those that can be awarded by SE themselves, you really think as many people would have wanted to participate?

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Originally Posted by Savlyn

Yes, because of "real PVP" I was definitely referring to WoW.

/sarcasm off.

Is it possible for people not to rage over everything on this forum? "Real PvP" doesn't have to be WoW PvP. Hell, it doesn't have to be like any other game's. SE could make up a completely new one for all I care. As long as it's actually fun at a level higher than 60 cap and we can change gear without being penalized. Pretty much anything other than this current system would be a welcomed change.

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Bah I thought you meant REAL real PvP. Like get on a plane, and meet up fight club style. Finally getting our hands on those forum trolls ;)

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Originally Posted by Savlyn

Yes, because of "real PVP" I was definitely referring to WoW.

/sarcasm off.

Is it possible for people not to rage over everything on this forum? "Real PvP" doesn't have to be WoW PvP. Hell, it doesn't have to be like any other game's. SE could make up a completely new one for all I care. As long as it's actually fun at a level higher than 60 cap and we can change gear without being penalized. Pretty much anything other than this current system would be a welcomed change.

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I do higher than 60 cap all the time, and it is quite fun, perhaps its your server that sucks. Or you - I don't know, feel free to transfer and hang out with me, we can have lots of uncap fun.

The fun being had most notably due to being forced to maximize limited areas of ones performance for the situation at hand by using a specific set of gear for your single opponent or enemy team. Having the greatest impact on hybrid jobs (DRK my love, RDM etc) forcing them to sacrifice defense for offensive/utility options (not getting resisted.)



Rather than having say a Magical Sailor Scout Wardrobe bag that transforms me on command, it is quite fun and challenging to have to maximize 16 slots on the fly due to the situation at hand, your resources, your enemy's resources, your targets, what your avoiding, if your defending, scoring, or even dueling a specific job.

It is even more rewarding that this game (thank god) doesn't have separate spheres for PvP and PvE armor but that PvE works to give us great tools for any job. After conquering Provenance or raiding to get that amazing drop/ or using synergy to finally get that +5 resist silence augment, or in Void Watch (or whatever), you can then use your Sanis Enis(sp) or Ephemeron/Ogier's Breeches/Meikira Meikogai to maximize your build and augment your strategy to fight your human foes.

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It was the the prizes and not being able to obtain that prize.

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We get our own contests with our own prizes. It's fine.