Assault Mission Requirements

Dear Square-Enix,

The game has shifted in a new direction since the inclusion of the Abyssea zones and the upgraded level cap. Of course, the new content provides new challenges and new opportunities for our characters to grow stronger. However, a lot of the game still depends on past content. I'm sure you hear this quite a bit, and I think it's nice that you are revisiting some of this. The one aspect of 75 play I would like to focus on is Assault.

While most of the items that are bought with assault points have become obsolete (but not all of them!), there is still a major reward that completing these missions can lead to: Mythic weapons. One of the requirements of unlocking a Mythic weapon is finishing every assault mission (along with attaining Captain status). This is especially hard in modern times, since the main block preventing people from engaging in assault missions is the three-person minimum requirement.

It's hard to find people to do these things with because the many people that -need- these done have finished them while they were still relevant. There are nice people and friends that are willing to help occasionally, sure, but I feel that it would help the rest of us 'catch up' if we abolish the three-person requirement. Quite a few of the assault missions were soloable at 75, but still needed three people to enter. I am sure that it would be even easier nowadays. The three-person minimum is a seemingly arbitrary requirement in this time.

Of course, I'm not asking for a nerf of the difficulty. Some missions will REQUIRE three or more people just because they are difficult. I just think that the requirement should depend on the skill of the players, not on this outdated restriction. Not everything should be soloable, but I feel that the things that ARE soloable should be allowed to be completed by just one person when he or she wishes. Nyzul Isle is an exception, of course, because of the lamp stages. It makes sense that three people are needed. The rest of the missions, such as battles, might not need this.

I think that this is one step that can bring people back to Whitegate, since with Trial of the Magians, Mythic Weapons are still relevant. The 'challenge' in finishing these weapons should not depend on the number of friends we have who are always willing to help by literally lending their bodies, but rather on the dedication of those that are willing to complete these tasks.

Thank you for your consideration,
Dabackpack


Edit: Whoops, didn't see a similar topic in another category.

No thoughts? :(

Wow, ok. >.>

I too would like to see the 3 person minimum relaxed. As stated, its difficult to find people to do assaults nowadays. I have tried to form a static without any success. Most people are either done with all the assaults or have no interest. Without finishing the assaults, I have no ability to start a Mythic weapon.

I agree, but don't see it changing. Would be really nice if they could. I do believe making older content easier for people who want to experience all of the game, is a good idea.

I agree entirely with the first post. There is no reason to put any sort of restrictions on content that offers outdated rewards. Personally, I want to do many of the assaults just for the sake of completion (so what if I have OCD?!?), but getting people to help you when there's nothing in it for them is kinda futile. I could ask friends to help me, but I'd be asking for a lot of favors if i were to have them assist me on every single assault mission when there was nothing in it for either me or them in terms of rewards. It feels kinda selfish to make them help me.

I feel the same way for assault tags. I think assault missions should more or less be spammable at this point in the game, maybe the same with old-nyzul too. It's old and outdated, no reason to hold people back anymore. There aren't many who are doing that sort of content anymore either, so there wouldn't be much of a risk of congestion.

amen to this whole thread

I would love to see the 3-man requirement lifted.

Liked, working on my re50 and Nyzul Tokens, would love to be able to duo these.

I also feel that 3 member requirement for Assault needs to go because finding help for it is quite difficult nowadays. Some new players won't bother with Assault while some older players completed it already and aren't likely to go through it again. Since some older content like Dynamis, CoP level capped areas, and Salvage were recently revamped to make them more accessible, why not revamp Assault as well.

I would also like this to be down to 1 man or even 2. I really never did any Assaults, Salvage, or Nyzul back in the day and now that Neo Salvage is out im having a hard time finding 2 other ppl who want to do Assaults for points.

I think in addition to removing 3 person entry conditions it would be great if tags were split up. Nyzul should get its own set of tags that is separate from the assault tags. What would be even better (but would never happen) is if assault tags functioned like traverser or voidwatch stones. If the NPC could store basically an unlimited number of tags it would go a long way to improving the mythic quest.

Yeah, the 3-man requirement needs to go, considering how much of a joke most assaults now nowadays; it's practically an insult that you need to bring more people for some of these Just Because.

Just make it so that the assault point rewards don't get any higher than they would if 3-man, if you're so worried about BARANCE and such.

PLEASE! D:

No one on my server seems to do any of these things anymore. I'm personally more concerned about the nyzul weaponskills. I really hate being locked out of this content because I didn't spam nyzul when "it was the new, hip thing to do" at it's release.

Now, there's practically no chance of me getting access to these weaponskills due to the 3-person requirement; everyone's farming emp. weapons in abys or doing high-tier VW. Really. That's all I see people shouting in Jeuno for anymore.

Even if they erased the 3-person minimum, it would STILL be a challenge to get all of nyzul and the assaults done with the tag system. There's, what, 50 assault missions? And doing a nyzul climb from 0 would be 20 missions.

That's 70 missions, 70 days, over two months of doing it every day without failing even once. This really defeats the idea of the 3 person minimum being "needed" as a bottleneck to keep mythic weapons from flooding the servers; if a player took all that time and dedication in this late stage of the game to do this old content, they deserve to be that much closer. They still have to kill the beastmen leaders. And get a boat load of alexandrite.

I can't fathom any legitimate reason from easing up on this topic.

I agree assaults should be made single or duo entry and the whole tags being separated just down to the fact that everyone saves for NNI and never want to use for Salvage etc. Also Nasugo the old nyzul is very easy now, especially with a group of 4-5 skilled players with emp/relic. For example me, 2 friends (both ukon war) and a guy we picked up from a single shout in Jeuno (mandau thf) went from floor 20-75 in 4 tags, and that was with a large lamp floor.

I then got a couple of friends to help me get from floor 75-100 in 2 tags. It's very possible to get to floor 100 in less than a week with the current gear you can get, but yea you need friends to help and it would also mean them losing access to NNI for a week which isn't really "possible" for people these days due to NNI needing statics down to the difficulty. I really hope SE can revamp this and if it gets a lot of likes there might be a high chance. They seem to be focusing a lot on AU revamps at the moment so fingers crossed!

@Jaall The old nyzul is that easy, it can be duoed (with a whm mule as 3rd character, but other than buffing at start doesnt really get used). Even do it with a NIN and PUP or THF for some lolz

Yea just saying the more you have the faster it'll be. Also seems like the less you have the faster it'll be assuming everyone knows what they're doing. Less lamps etc with less people and less people to try and lead. But to start getting 15 floors+ with 1 tag you'll most likely have to or want to bring at least 1 empy/relic dd just to be safe. Definitely possible to duo your way to floor 100 though and definitely possible solo, wouldn't even need luck but you'd be going 5 floors at a time if it were possible.

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