I'm a returning player after 1 year...boy has it changed around here.
These GoV chains of 18 people...is just sad.
I don't learn how to play my job, I don't learn how to work well with others...
Its literally a gangbang of a bat x4, beetle x2 by 18 people. I could walk away from my computer for an hour, and come back 10 levels higher.
The entire game feels deserted. Whitegate is a dead zone. (Trust me this is difficult when your main is a blue mage.)
Who needs eq at all till you hit level 99? I see people using Onion gear into their 50s. Does anyone even craft anymore? Why would they, when you only need level 99 l337 gear.
I feel like GoV has completely destroyed the levelling experience into a fast (but stupid) grind.
Battle Content...what Battle Content?
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01-12-2012, 05:50 AMmhoghedinBattle Content...what Battle Content?
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01-12-2012, 06:26 AMTsukino_KajiThis hasn't changed, people burning jobs up and not knowing how to play them. Just the form of XP has. On the otehr hand, you're second statement is most true. The current system has been breeding a bad community with poor ethics.Quote:
Originally Posted by mhoghedin
WG being empty is in no way, shape or form deprimental to blue mage.Quote:
Originally Posted by mhoghedin
You're wrong, it's not GoV's fault. It was abyssea that ushered this in.Quote:
Originally Posted by mhoghedin
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01-12-2012, 07:10 AMmhoghedin
Well...I guess the biggest difference between a year ago and today for levelling is:
A year ago you could CHOOSE to burn your job up 40 levels in 5 hours. Now you have no choice. Its either burn the job or slowwwwllllllyyyy solo/duo your way to 99?
I also feel like WG being empty has huge issues for BLU. How do I collect ISP so I can warp out to the staging points that your AF armor quests often require you to do? You can't because there are no parties being formed at all. Do I want to WALK to each point to get my armor? After doing it once already for Beginnings? No thanks.
Everyone is synced down to 45 in Garlaige Citadel curbstomping bats and beetles! -
01-12-2012, 07:33 AMNynja
Why would you WANT to spend 1000 hours leveling a job up at 3-10k/hr (depending on your level and what you're doing with whats available)? Thats not a good thing.
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01-12-2012, 08:41 AMmhoghedin
Because they took it too far. Its not actually playing the game, its button mashing, and that's not fun.
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01-12-2012, 08:44 AMFrankReynolds
lol yeah, because a guy who has played for six months, and just got his job leveled high enough to go to an event is way better at the game than the guy who burned his job in 2 days, and spent the last 6 months doing missions, quests, and end game events. OK.
If I leveled WHM 3 years ago, then spent 6 months doing all over it again on my mule, that means I'm twice as good at whm now right? -
01-12-2012, 12:15 PMGreatguardianDo 1 Besieged and have enough ISP for all of your AF in 1 hour.Quote:
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01-12-2012, 01:22 PMTsukino_KajiYeah, if you've been gone for a year you might not have known that besieges gives 5k IS now.Quote:
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01-13-2012, 12:34 AMTannloreBecause it's not imperial standing Chickens, or Imperial standing Mithra (though some might like that I'm sure).Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji
It's an amount detailed by numbers in a tally style system, I think points fit it just fine. Also given other systems like Conquest Points one can easily see why. The question is: any not points? ;)
Also to the OP's point: WG is dead content dead. Maybe with the coming changes to Nyzul and such more people will be there. -
01-13-2012, 01:38 AMmhoghedin
I just think its a shame that such a -large- game with so much to do...has so little % of the content being used atm. There are so many cool things like Besieged, Campaign, etc. That no one is doin anymore.
Not to mention that most low level areas are completely abandoned. New players must feel so utterly alone.
I feel like they need to either upgrade the treasure, or upgrade the content, or something! -
01-14-2012, 05:56 AMEric
Regarding GoV, leveling in old-style EXP parties didn't teach you how to play your job either. It only taught you how to work in EXP parties. At least now you can dive right into content that will teach you (more or less) what's important for your job at endgame, as opposed to teaching you how to pull crabs for hours on end.
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01-14-2012, 01:25 PMConcerned4FFxi
I've helped many new and returning players, and the first question returning players say to me is, where did everyone go. It's been asked so many times that when someone new says to me, "hi, can I ask you a question", that by default I say to them, "you wanna know where everyone in the dunes went? Try gusgen mines, people dont xp in the dunes anymore" and then I proceed to update them on GOV, abyssea, etc.
This is extremely sadding, and it also crys out to mismanagement of content. How could nobody see that this would happen with the easy xp from abyssea, and even now with the obvious results the impact has made and no fixes are being imployed to get people to re-enter old zones. There should be an xp bonus to people in a party of six or less outside abyssea, and the FOV books in the old xp zones should give increased xp.
The worst that can happen is soloist/dualist can benifit, the best that can happen is a return to low level players re-using these zones in six man parties, the way they were meant to be. You'd still have GOV book burning, but there would be a new push to also do xp the old way if this or some other fix were made.
I dont see them doing anything about this, they really do not care one bit about this game. It's funny, because they are considering revamping it, and exporting it to a new platform, but just because people pay to play it they think it doesnt need much fixing. Yet all the 76+ content made a huge portion of the game unbalanced and outdated. I really think this whole thing was done sloppy and hastely, just to get money and with no real consideration from the players feelings involved.
All the upgrades to level cap should have been done with an across the board revamp at the same time, and not this short sightedness that continuely is being pumped out by 11 now, and 14 orginally.