Redmage Spells and adjustments

i find that RDM's spell repertoire is severely lacking. the following spells would help round out this job further.

Enspell III's
These would function like a fusion between T1 enspells and T2 Enspells.
these can proc on every single hit, however their damage will only scale up once per attack round. the damage cap would be slightly higher on these allowing for a potential of 80-100 maximum damage per swing given proper gear (enspell damage + enhancing, weather ectect). the damage would also scale down based on the number of times Multi attacks are activated in one attack round.
Example
1 Atack: no damage penalty
1 dual wield attack (two swings caused by dualwielding weapons): no damage penalty
Double attack: No damage penalty
1 Multi hit attack: damage -50% per swing (2 attacks = 1/2 damage, 4 attacks =1/4th damage so on soforth. this is to prevent 800 damage attack rounds from a Kclub.)

Poisons
Poisonaga
Poisonaga II
Poisonaga III
Poisonaga IV
Poison III
Poison IV
Poison V
give us access to these potentially destructive spells, they would be a great asset to Redmage.

Dia & Bio
Remove Dia III and bio III from redmage merit category II, and change them into Duration & potency Merits

add in as scroll spells
Bio III
Bio IV
Dia III
Dia IV

Haste II
Gives the same Attack speed increase as Haste1, however this form of haste Lowers Spell Casting time, and increases Subtle blow.
every mage will have access to haste next update while subbing rdm. giving rdm haste II will give them more exclusiveness with out breaking them

Gain spells
What Happened to Gain-INT?
i saw no mention of it in the update notes.
Gain-status:
Gain-Acc
Gain-attack
Gain-Macc
Gain-MAttack
Gain-Critical
Gain-Magic Critical

allow RDMs to apply 1 Gain Attribute, and one Gain Status at the same time
EXAMPLE: Nuking RDM casts Gain Magic Attack, and then casts Gain INT- RDM has the effect of Magic attack boost, and intelligence boost.

these would help bolster RDM as a nuker and a melee DD.

Give RDM a c Skill in Shields. E skill is very LOL for one of the core Shield jobs.

give RDM access to All elemental Sword and dagger skills, were magic fighters for christsake lol


New Job trait.
Twincast
10% Chance to instantly recast your last spell.
Double attack for spells.

New Job ability:
augmentateur
Enhances potency of next enhancing magic spell cast by 10%
60second recast

New Spells:
Weakness: Lowers Targets resistance to enfeebling magic
Fortitude: Enhances targets resistance to enfeebling magic
Phalanx III: self target only, reduces damage taken caps at double Phalanx1 cap.
Destruct: Increases damage taken from all sources

thought up a few new Job traits

Mystic Fencer
Enhances Enspell damage. Increases Magic Attack Bonus and Magic Accuracy when Utilizing a Shield.
Just a little perk for RDM's who use their shields.

Elemental Bulwark
Increases elemental Spikes Damage; "spikes": Shield Activation rate Up.
EXP: Increases Spike damage by 25>50>75>100%, this trait has 4 tiers, and increases shield block rate by 2>6>8>10% when under the effects of a spikes spell. +100% spikes damage, even with maximum enhancing skill, is still only 25-30X2= 50-60 damage spikes.

i truly think in earnest that Spikes and enspells have the potential to make redmage into a most unique damage dealing class. i think that if the devs expanded on these spells ( dosent have to be my ideas nececarily, tho would be cool) that it would help re-define redmage into a true jack of all trades.

i think that redmage could do with an exclusive set of gear that focus's soley on enhancing their melee capabilities

Fencer's Edge R/X
Sword, One hand
Damage 57 delay 240
Enspell damage +10
Latent effect
Magic Attack +10
Attack +15
RDM

Fencer's Chapeau
Head, Level 99
Str+5 Dex+5 Haste +6%
Spell Intteruption Rate Down 10%
Enhances Aquaveil Effect

Fencer's tabard
Body Level 99
+10 INT +10 STR Store TP+10
Enhances Spikes Effect (+25% damage)
Enhances Stoneskin Effect (+50 damage)

Fencer's Gloves
Hands Level99
+5% Haste +10 Accuracy
Enhances Phalanx Effect (+25% of total reduction)
Augments Enspells ( Lowers Targets resistance to matching enspell element by 2 per swing, a maximum of 30)

Fencer's Tights
Pants Level 99
+10 Mind
+20 Enhancing Magic skill
-12% enhancing magic casting time
Enspell damage +15


Fencer's Boots
+10 Dex +4% haste
Enhances Fast cast
Blink casting time -12%
Enhances Blink Effect
Enspell Damage +10

lol bit heavy on the RDM upgrades, sounds like someone's wet dream ;[ Seriously though, RDM is one of the most unloved jobs atm, it really has no place anymore. Debuffs? What are those? I mean you could swing something like a frontline combat mage, but I think BLU already stole RDM's thunder there. They get native refresh, dispel, haste and phalanx now, multiple stuns, spells that cast in less than a second and do massive dmg, what does RDM get? Composure and Enspell IIs that only land on first hit. Enspell IIs are good enough, you don't need IIIs you just need to remove the penalty for multiple hits. Especially when double, triple or even quadruple attack is now available, an Enspell that only lands on first hit is pointless. If you fix Enspell IIs, let RDM cast nukes faster (to the point it'd be worthwhile to cast midfight instead of flat melee) and maybe give some melee-oriented traits and JA, RDM would be more fun and accessible. Some more buffs/debuffs would be nice, maybe Absorb spells!? Heck, that double attack for spells idea isn't bad

Hm, I think the overall idea brings to much to the table with RDM, you're pretty much asking for enfeebles, enhancements, self buffs and anything to make them outshine other mage classes that may have an enhancement better then RDM.

For a quick note RDM already has the unique spells of Addle and Refresh II, and I'll just note Gravity II though it could prove to be useful having 2 gravities to use.

Blind= Mind Break
Dia= Scorching Light
Bio= Scorching Darkness
Dispel= Recall
Paralyze= Palsy
Poison= Venom
Silence= Faithless
Sleep= Night Terror/Nightmare
Slow= Time Distortion
Bind= Halt

Alright so, what I see SE wanting to do with RDM is make enfeeble spells that are unique to RDM but not just higher tier enfeebles. With that in mind I came up with potential names for the following enfeebles.

Mind Break:Same potency as blind but adds an amnesia effect, high recast

Scorching Light:Same effect as dia 2 but lower light/fire/wind/thunder resist

Scorching Darkness:same as Bio 2 but lowers dark/water/ice/earth

Recall:Conjures the incantation of last enhancement foe used(can fail depending on buff)(Grants user with "Recall" effect)

Retrieve:Uses Recalled spell on you or ally (Grants Target with Retrieve, ally can only have one Retrieve effect active if target is cast with Retrieve again it'll overwrite older effect)

Palsy:Paralyze I effect that increased critical hit dmg recieved

Venom:Poison II effect that lowers Att with each DoT(returns to normal upon wearing off)

Faithless:Silence effect that reduces target magic defense drastically(lower duration then Silence)

Night Terror/Nightmare:Single target sleep with DoT(low duration)

Time Distortion:Slow I effect with reduced reaction time aka eva down, decrease
odds of using TP moves and spells

Halt:Freezes target in tracks all damage dealt to target during this period will not give mob TP

So basically the concept I"m trying to go for is not just higher tiered spells but spells that are actually unique to their counterparts. I tried to create a fine balance between the potency of said spell and it's additional effect. Because of this you'll see that some spells have a lower potency then the higher tier that is offered to RDM. This is so that you are still encouraged to use those effects when needed.

For some examples

-You wouldn't use Scorching Light in a situation of a mob that has a natural high mag def where magic is somewhat useless. Instead you'll use Dia III and get the higher def down effect

-Paralyze II is already a strong effect so making a higher tier would be OPed instead go for a Paralyze I effect that offers increased critical hit dmg taken. Because of this you wouldn't use Palsy in a situation where you are using magic instead you would stick Paralyze II on the mob. But with DD on the mob you may decide to use Palsy to increase the dmg the target takes when they are hit with a critical attack.

-Night Terror/Nightmare is pretty much a copy of Diabolos move but it's only single target with no way to AOE it so it shouldn't' be OPed if coupled with a high recast. With it's low duration it can be used to add a little dmg to a mob to save time as long as said RDM has Sleep and Sleep II rdy once the mob wakes up

-With Time distortion it's the same situation as Paralyze, you can't make the effect stronger without OPing it so instead give it the tier I potency but add the fact that it'll reduce the mobs chance of using TP/spells as well as lower evasion because of it's slowed reaction

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But ya, if anything I think RDM should get spells that sound powerful, not just a tier III IV aga III IV and such. The 99 RDM should have spells that say, ya this is how a RDM does it lol. But ya I just thought of this off the top of my head, tried to balance it up as much as possible but I think it would offer RDM a greater range of enfeebles to use since that is what they are known for. It'll make them shine in the ability of specialized enfeebles but at the same time it won't discourage other enfeebles from being used as seen fit based on the situation.

I'd be happy if RDM could have a full spread of elemental weapon skills since there are so many weapon skills RDM cannot use. Along with Burning Blade, add Dirty Blade, Splashing Blade, Tornado Blade, Freezing Blade, Electric Blade.

Added to that, since there are jobs that can solo skillchains, RDM should be able to solo magic bursts by following an elemental weapon skill with a spell with an element strong to the element used in the weapon skill. So following Burning Blade with Water IV would give a magic burst. Or if you use Water IV, followed by Electric Blade, the Electric Blade weapon skill would do a little more damage than usual since the mob would be soaking wet. Maybe even use the restriction of needing another mage subjob to make it work.

It takes RDM a lot longer than most other jobs to kill things.

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Originally Posted by Airget

For a quick note RDM already has the unique spells of Addle and Refresh II, and I'll just note Gravity II though it could prove to be useful having 2 gravities to use.

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Addle is not unique. It's available to White Mage as well.

The way I see Red Mage is as a master of enfeebles. That being said, the one direction SE should really go with the job is to flesh out that role and give it more purpose. They have a massive potential for being highly creative here, such as giving them genuinely unique enfeebles (Confuse, Doom, Curse, Zombie, Toad) or creating enemies which will respond directly to a RDM's unique talents, perhaps by giving Red Mage's a Job Trait that allows them to cast enfeebles on targets which are otherwise immune to such effects.

This is a powerful solo job which has been sadly neglected in teams since Abyssea's release for teamplay. There are literally thousands of ideas floating around which would greatly enhance the job without overpowering it or destroying the game balance. SE just needs to be more attentive in listening to them.

I still think, playing as mage or melee rdm, the time for a blink II is at hand, possibly tier III even! Aside from that, a MDB spell could be useful, or possibly something really neat... perhaps a buff that reduces damage taken based on current tp, not straight conversion though mind you. Perhaps something like at 300% tp you take 30% damage, so at 10% tp, you take 1% less damage. Could be a rather fun (and powerful?) Buff to use as DDs if you can cast it upon them can keep some tp to ride out a powerful attack, and follow it with a WS, Dunno, just throwing ideas out there!

Adding MAB to Enspell damage would be nice. Obviously, we would want it locked in on cast instead of seeing RDMs melee in caster gear. Take a hint from Enspell 2s on how not to make an Enspell.

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Originally Posted by hideka

New Job trait.
Twincast
10% Chance to instantly recast your last spell.
Double attack for spells.

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Great idea in theory, but it's a tricky thing to be able to double cast the same spell. Especially in Abyssea. If RDM is the one trying to trigger, and they end up casting the right trigger twice... Does not make for a happy party.

If they end up casting the right trigger twice it wouldn't matter because you can't stagger the mob a second time while it's already staggered.

A lot of good ides, i agrea merit spells should be made scrolls all as one after lvl75 cap raise, and be replaced with a potency merit and other abilitys.

It would open for higher tier of dia and bio (wich should be rdm only, i asume the scroll making make bio dia 3 availible to other jobs, as we get higher tier )

They should really reconsider redoing a lot on rdm since 75 cap raise, some enhancement spells being self only target should be redone to at least party targetable ( come on whm can aoe these ) or give rdm the aoe version as well.
I never got the problem SE has with not giving Aoe versions to rdm on enhancing and enfeebling, so what if we are hybrid, we still highest tier in those two skills, ( not counting sch since they use art's, and oh yeah they can aoe all single target spells)

Im open for either getting aoe versions or a special JA at say level 50 to grant all enhancments on rdm on party/alliance for a set cost of mp as used ( in another what if thread i came up with idea of one for all, granting the effects of all rdm enhancments to all in 40" range) calll it one for all/Solidarity or magic defender( or any other original name u might think fits).

One change id love too see since the lavel cap increase is a redo on convert, im not against evryone being able to use it as sub, but it would be nice if when merited or past 50 a JT made all exceess hp in convert, translated to a special Convert mp up effect similar to what drain 2 does for drk only for mana, so if u have 1500/1500 hp 1/1000mp u get 1/1500hp 1500/1000mp after convert is done through the mp convert up icon ( this should be a seperate icon as u dont wanna overwrite mp up.)
This would make convert on rdm superior to subbed version.

Another new JT id like to see since Fast Cast is so spread now is a trait for oc. cast instant, basicly a trait that procs on spell cast and sometimes does instant cast with recast being set to 0 so it can be cast again,
A way to increase its % effect should go on fast cast u have so if u have 50% FC u can get 50% effect of this JT, meaning it must be given after first fast cast JT is gotten. ( prefably after 50+ since it should be rdm only )

As for spells here is a list id like to see on rdm

Haste 2 = ( superior to 1 in lenght and +5% haste, double 1's duration) (id also like hastega )

Stoneskin 2 = fix stoneskin 1 to increase further with enhancing skill and make 2 castable on others, Possibly make stoneskin 2 uniqe by giving it 2 layers, so each layer = stoneskin 1 effect,
let stoneskin 1 reset a layer taken off on stoneskin 2 + cureskin also replace lost stoneskin layer.
This would give rdm a new place in party for dmg controll as well as supporting whm while not stealing whm role.

Poisen 3/4/5 no reason why rdm shouldnt get these, give us at least some reason to cast poisen as most mobs die fast today.

master Marksman = a rng multibuff from rdm, buff gives sevral effects, Rapid shot +5% ,Range attack +5%, Recycle +5%, scales from 300 enhancing skill evry 30 skill, capping at max +25% on all effects.
This would be a new Party room for rdm as buffer.

Pet cure 1/2 = is as described a cure for pet's in party/alliance tier 1 does 180 hp recovered, tier 2 does 360 hp recovered, also grants a strong regen on pet, each spell scales amount healed based on healing skill/enhancing skill, boosted evry 30 skill.
another sugestion for support role that isnt filled today.

Blink 2 = grants 4 layers instead of 2

Enspell 2 = needs a fix , Make all hits proc on evry hit, also make debuff effect be same element so the resists of today dont continue and allow us to cast on Party members, why cant rdm be usefull in PT/alliance mode with all its uniqe buff's,
Add new gear for Enspell + ( why isnt this a uniqe effect on trial swords ? , not like pld/blu would be hurt by it being on sword, and no need for seperate trials for it)

New spikes:
Fusion Spike = Fire/light spike doing initaly 36 dmg a hit + added effect off Virus/flash on hit, scales from 300 enhancing skill.
Fragmentation Spike = Lightning/wind spike 36 inital dmg + added effect stun/silence ( short duration ) same scale as others
Gravitation Spike = Earth/dark spike 36 inital dmg + added effect Slow/drain ( short duration )same scale as others
Distortion Spike = water/ice spike 36 inital dmg + Paralyze/Plauge ( shourt duration ) same scale as others

Gainra HP = Uniqe rdm only spell, on all party/alliance gives a boost hp effect scaled from 300 enhancing skill
Gainra MP = Same as above
These would be tied together so u can only have 1 at a time of these but they can be stacked with the other gain/boost spells.
Duration should start at 3 min scaled with skill from 300 to max of 5 min, amount boosted by skill is up for debate but it would be nice if this was a significant amount at max skill. ( lets give whm something to use cure 6 on ^^ )

Phalanx 3 = a new better phalanxe starting scaling from 300 skill ( also fix 2 so it is superior to 1 ) only slightly stronger then 2 but with additional effect of oc. nullify critt dmg, 5 min duration.
Oc.nullify critt dmg is triggered by amount Defense u have, where as 300 def = 5% proc ( this is start level , under 300 u allways have 5%) scaling evry 25 defense = +1 % trigger effect capping at 30%.

Temporal twist = Space/time effect on mob that builds as it is dmged for 1 min then release a % dmg on enemy as it wears off starts scaling from 300 enfeebling skill evry 30 skill, starts at 2% dmg capping at 10% of total dmg done on mob during it's duration. so if damage dealt during effect was 10000 and skill was 300 it does 200 dmg as it wears, if dmg was 10000 and cap was reached on skill u get 1000 dmg as it wears.
I guess the name could need a change but i think the effect would fit something rdm could do.

Torment = a Dark based enfeeble boosting all dark based dmg done on target ( yes we will have to share it with drk ) based on dark skill does inital Dot 5 dmg, but can be increased with dark knight only spell Pain 1-5 ( very fast dark nuke doing considrate dmg )
each tier of pain boost Dot by 5 dmg, torment also increase dmg pain spells and bio do as well as stun duration.

ecstacy = light element enhancing, Boost all healing effects on target by initaly 5% to a cap of 10% grants a small amount of dark element resist,also has a smal auto regen in it doing 5 hp regen from 0-250 divine skill , scaling evry 25 skill by +1 tic.

Revenge = yes its a counter type spell, but it works on magic as well as physical attack, can be cast on single targets in party.
Starts at a 25% proc at 300 enhancing skill boosting 5% evry 30 skill to a cap of 50% proc rate, it can also proc DA/TA/QA on revenge hit and takes priority over all other counter effects, also give Tp for each connecting hit.
Duration is 3 min

Focus = a spell for increasing next elemental spells effect, can be cast on self only cost 40 mp.
starts at 300 enhancing skill at 25% boosting, evry 15 + skill adds another 5% to spell boost caps at 100% boost of spell.
Recast is 1 min.

redirect = enhancing spell for party/alliance single target enhancing skill, transfeer a % of enemity earned while effect is active to one having direct on them.
Direct = Enhancing spell giving enemity % from people with redirect on them while effect is active.
The spells have fixed amount of enemity transfer of 25% but enhancing skill can increase duration of the spells, inital duration is 1 min capping at 3 min recast is 1:30 min on both spells making it a crucial to chose the right targets as with recast reduced and lenght incresed u can cycle max 3-4 people ( not sure how much recast can be reduced )
This would be hate controll effect to bolster pld whille helping special job's that can do fast spike dmg, granted 25% might be a bit much idk, give me ur opinions on it.

Venom = lightning based poisen giving added effect of critt def down, Dot should start at 5 at 0-300 skill, then scale 2 dmg evry 30 enfeebling skill, critt def down should be set at 15% down, duration starts at 1 min at 0-300 skill increasing evry 30 skill by 12 seconds capping at 3 min if used with high skill+ sabotour

Bleed =Wind based Dot doing 10 dmg a tic with 0-300 enfeebling skill, boosting 2 dmg evry +30 skill, duration starts at 2 min and scales 20 sec evry +30 skill from 300 capping at 5 min with high skill + sabotour
Additional effect : Ranged attacks do 15% more dmg on bleed targets, this also include jump attacks

Heavens fall = wind based enfeebling , does an inital nuke dmg on hit starting at 200 dmg and grants effect of lowered enfeeble resists as well as remove at least 1 imunity on NM, can not be stacked on prey, but duration can be increased with skill, is calculated on elemental/enfeebling skill from +300 skill, +30 elemental skill adds 50 dmg/ +30 Enfeebling skill increase % resists down effext from inital 5% down by 3% evry +30 enfeebling skill to cap of 25% down effect, imunity removed proced on a enemy resist skill versus ur int/enfeebling skill.
Inital duration is 2 min increaded by +20 sec evry +30 enhancing skill for max of 5 min with high skill + Sabotour.
Recast is set initaly at 1:30, casting on top of effect does not stack but can renew the effect duration.

Hell's Chain's = Enfeebling earth based spell, Hits target with a oc. cant use TP move, starts at low 5% proc rate but no one is imune to it, 5% from 0-300 skill +1% evry +30 skill of enfeebling for a max of 10% proc ,aditional spells cast on mob does not stack but can overwrite effect to renew effect if not earth element resist of mob stops the spell.
( think ff10 and anima for animation of effect ^^ )

Bloody Swamp = Enfeeble spell Aoe 10" from target occ triggering a gravity effect ( low duration ) and draining enemy hp by Dot starting at 5 hp a tic at 0-300skill giving it to all that are in 10" range of mob, the mroe people that is in range the mroe the dot does, evry person gains 5 hp each.
evry +30 enfeebling skill adds +1hp to dot and increase time of duration with +12 sec , inital duration is at 3 min capped at 5 min.
so if 6 people are in range and the effect is +12 hp drained the effect total no drained of mob is 72 hp a tic.
However the spell has a downside, as being in range also oc triggers gravity on ur own members.

Temporal barrier = single target spell enhancing magic, completly nullify all dmg magic and physical at cost of targets ability to excute commands, also nullify enemity until effect wears ( enemity is in statsis under effect ).
This spell is to save those near death but has long recast duration, also once u have barrier on u u cant cast anything, however the effect grants a high regen and refresh effect as long as it last.
5 min recast timer at least mayby longer is needed to avoid abuse.
at 300 enhancing skill or lower u get duration of 30 seconds on the one cast on and regen is 50 hp a tic + 25 mp a tick, increses evry +30 skill with +5 second duration and +10 hp +1mp a tickuntil cap is hit of 1 min time duration +100hp a tick and +35 mp a tick.
Effect is an cancable icon so when u have restored needed hp/mp u can cancel effect or have whm ready for heal as u cancel it.
if used on single fight batle u will lose claim on target when barrier is up and it will reagro when it wears , as claim is lost it will regain hp.

Soaring wind = drg specific enhancing buff boosting jump effects initaly by 10% at 0-300 skill as well as adding +10% evasion
evry 30+ enhancing skill adds 1% to both effect until cap at 15% is hit,
jump dont just get a boost to effect but also dmg done and a % boost while drg 2 hour is used on 2 hour effects.
Can be cast on others for evasion %+

Searing flame = fire element enfeeble with a inital dmg of 200 on hit + occ triggers searing effect for additional 200 dmg under duration
the inital dmg + searing effect dmg is increased by elemental skill starting at 300, boosting 50 evry +30 elemental skill, duration is set at initaly 1 min but enhancing skill over 300 for evry +30 adds +20 seconds for max of 5 min duration if used with max skill + sabatour, also initaly procc of effect triggered is at 25% but boosted 5% evry +30skill in enhancing capping at 75% occ trigger effect.
this means a balance must be made between elemental and enhancing skill when casting this spell to get most out of it, can be boosted by day/weather.
goess through a proc check evry tick.

Sub zero blizzard = Enfeebling spell doing inital 200 dmg occ triggering paralyze ( for 1-2 times before wear) works on skill as spell above in time and duration and skill increase.
Each time trigger is done it does 200 dmg + paralyze or more dmg if u have over 330 dmg for +30 elemental skill.

Slumber = self cast enhancing spell to recover hp/mp and build tp, initaly at 0-300 enhancing skill it grants +50 hp +25mp +10tp a tick, but u cant do anything as u are in a sleep effect, it can be broken by canceling or by enemy attack.
Scales evry +30 skill by +10 hp +2mp +1tp until cap is hit at +100hp +35mp +15tp a tick, also duration is increased by +6 seconds evry +30 skill, inital duration is 30 seconds and cap at 1 min , recast is 5 min
All buffs stay on under slumber and does not count down/off under effect.
This is a speedy self recovery spell for rdm.

Aditionaly id like to see a JA that transfeer Enspell dmg to non element ws x3 evry hit, i find it weird that rdm can enhance sword with enspell but they dont proc on ws.

anyways im sure there are tons of other spells rdm could use, but im sure if se did some remake on rdm job it would fit better in party mode and not be a solo job mostly.

As for merits redoing theres a lot of stuff id love to see in cat 1 and 2

Merits group 1 should have 3 rdm only boosts and 1 from each job rdm is a mix of (whm/blm/war)

Convert = time reduction remains ( posibly add the convert mp boost as merit)
magic acc = turn curent element merits into 1 for all, no need to waste space on single element, thats what staff is for.
Fast cast = inital merit point grants +5% adding for each of next points +3 +3 +2 +2 for total of fast cast 15%
From whm either cure potency or barspell boost
from blm element potency
from war DA +%

since u can only get 2 catagorys it would self balance on what u choose.

Merit group 2

Occ cast spell instant = JT that proc on Fast cast rate u have so at 25% FC u have 25% posibility of trigering instant cast of spell, this JT also reduce recast to 0 when triggered on a spell.
1 merit point grants an aditional 5% trigger chance in addition to Fc u have, each merit on gives +3 +3 +2 +2 for total of +15% cap for ability is 50%

Enhancing magic potency = inital merit point grants +5% adding +3 +3 +2 +2 for total of 15% potency boost
Magical sword and board = grants boost to spike/enspells 1 merit point gives +10 enspell +5 spike dmg , each next merit points grant +6/+3 +6/+3 +4/+2 +4/+2 for total of +30 enspels dmg and +15 spike dmg
Debuff potency = inital merit point gives +10% effect potency scaling +6 +6 +4 +4 evry merit

Master swordsman = JT that gives Dual Wield and +sword/dagger skill as well as +shield skill
inital merit point grants DW1 Sword/dagger skill + 10 shield skill +6
Merit point 2 gives S/D skill +6 Shield +4 , point 3 gives DW2 S/D skill +6 Shield skill +4, Point 4 gives S/D +4 shield +3, point 5 gives DW 3 S/D +4 Shield +3.
total skill for maxing this merit is Dual wield 3 +Sword/dagger skill +30 Shield skill +20 making for a greatly boosted swordsman and allowing Sub Job choice as melee to go beyond just /nin or /dnc for DW, allowing for single or Dw play to get a chance.

Refresh/Regen Potency = inital potency 1 point Regen +10 Refresh +2, next points give +3/+2 +3/+2 +2/+1 +2/+1 for total of regen +20 / refresh +8 at max merits also each merit point boost duration of spells by 12 sec evry point for total of 1 min boost on cast

Group 2 has a lot of powerfull stuff but u can only merit 2 fully at a time so it kinda self balance after ur playstyle, u might go full hybrid setting 2 in each or fully fill out 2 merits for one path.

Damn thats a long post .... once again ive gone wall of text on ya, hopefully it is readable or ill edit it and add some hide boxes.

Only issue with party target-able spells is you get stuck into brain damaging cycles and it conflicts with enhancing duration gear vs enhancing potency gear.

Now this could easily be mitigated if SE were to adjust them so their casting time was .5s similar to stun with a really low recast of a few seconds. Then I'd happily spam a set of spells onto 4~5 people. But having 5~10 second cast times and asking it for 4~5 people with two to four spells each is just asinine.

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Originally Posted by saevel

Only issue with party target-able spells is you get stuck into brain damaging cycles and it conflicts with enhancing duration gear vs enhancing potency gear.

Now this could easily be mitigated if SE were to adjust them so their casting time was .5s similar to stun with a really low recast of a few seconds. Then I'd happily spam a set of spells onto 4~5 people. But having 5~10 second cast times and asking it for 4~5 people with two to four spells each is just asinine.

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That or up the duration to 5 minutes each without the emp armour so we can get almost 10 minute duration with emp, it'd make cycles less tedious. SE can say they want self-enhancing only, but the emp suit states otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher

That or up the duration to 5 minutes each without the emp armour so we can get almost 10 minute duration with emp, it'd make cycles less tedious. SE can say they want self-enhancing only, but the emp suit states otherwise.

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I agrea better duration on enhancment would be the better, still we can reduce a great deal of the cast time/recast time as well.
Most cast on others spells should get a timer increase from enhancing skill so they could hit 5 min on others.

Personaly id like the single target barspell and gain spells to be deleted and just let rdm get the aoe versions.

I remember long time ago when i started this game i found it anoying rdm could cast bar spells when fighting mob's but it wouldnt help party at all. i just think Se stand on this is so backwards for a game so origanly tuned for party play.

Getting hastega and aoe spells wouldnt break the game just make life a bit easier, heck im sure smn brd cor and other buff jobs could work far better if their buff's hit not only party but alliance as well, it would free up party config and u would be able to get more out of buff jobs.
Not like people wont be doing the buff party chair dance anyway to gain 4+ (6+)brd buff's if a fight would require it, it just means more invite/drop work for those job's

i maybe wearing a bit of nostalgia googles but i remember having time to do 3 haste 4 refresh cycles while having time for MB nuking/ debuff in old school play, but i can see with evry new worthwhile buff such becomes more and more tedious and Aoe/longer duration would certanly help.

Personaly for self buff Composure was a god send to rdm.

For rdm futere id love for Both enhancing and enfeebling to become usefull in party mode, mayby a AM version of enfeebling costing a good amount of MP in return for high dmg over short/long duration depending on skill set priortized to make for new tactical options, if u got time enfeebling be worth using for long time duration , where as elemental be the one to pick of zerg style dmg.

Id also be honest, after sch came out rdm should have gotten A- in enhancing since arts pretty much made anyone able to reach rdm skill level, granted its something that could also be fixed if merit spells is removed and made scroll, and a merit is added for enhancing boost.

The most greedy list I have ever seen in my forum reading. Bio is not some trade mark of Redmage its not even enfeebling magic, and what the hell twincast is just spontanity/quickcasting... you really thought up another name for things that already exist? And Haste 2 doesn't even make sense. Recollect you thought cause ur all over the place... and the getto beat around the bush way to attempt to gain spells similar to drk knight's abilities, I hope they never considered...

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Originally Posted by Zemarin

Bio is not some trade mark of Redmage

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And yet they're the only one to get Bio III, point Void.

The rest was tripe I kindly removed. :)