It's not much to ask for I just really would like another option on Sam. My Sam is geard to the max so it's in my nature to want something new in my arsenal. The reason I think Sam should be able to use emp bow is Sam has not crit ws at all so it would be cool to have this one.
I'm not worried bout crit crap my fudo does major dmg compared to most but we all know what a crit can do. Another thing is all this sky aug gear useless stats for fudo Sam. Why they couldn't add ws dmg aug or tp bonuse? Best Auguments they have is crit rate and crit dmg. Well I think if we was able to use emp bow there will be a real good reason to wear that gear on Sam.
Honestly the bow looks kinda empty with just It saying RNG. Looks alot better RNG/SAM. I may be the only one who wants this but hey you have SAMs asking for dual wield. This is way more realistic and ideal for a Sam to have emp bow.
Imagine 2-4 Gk emp bow = Sam/rng come back.
Please make the ToM Bows avalible for samurai
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08-11-2011, 04:16 AMMatayoPlease make the ToM Bows avalible for samurai
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08-11-2011, 04:27 AMLushipur
im ok with some new job on current weapon trials, except sam on bow lol
and i have a few friends that want the sam/rng things to come back....but when something is overpowered is overpowered -
08-11-2011, 07:04 AMAlhanelem
If it would be overpowered, it would only be because of the newer weaponskills not being horribly inaccurate. SAM has really fallen behind lately and I question if they would be number one again with RNG sub.
That said, they probably do not get the magian bow because they would be able to get a weapon skill without subbing RNG or COR when they would normally need to sub one of those jobs to use any weaponskills at all. -
08-11-2011, 07:10 AMMalacite
Be awesome if SAM could get access to Jishnu's, but I don't see that happening (even though SAM only has a C+ rating and while it can out-TP RNG, it can't possibly match it for damage)
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08-11-2011, 08:19 AMMatayo
Yea I don't see it being to overpowered. Sam don't share the same skill as RNG so it wouldn't be like a RNG doing the ws. The Sam will simply get the spamming advantage. Look all y'all should just side with me and agree. So I can get my bow on my Sam. It's not over powered it's just another option. Like wth ppl act like they never seen a Sam spam namas or sidewinder. Nothin is different rng ws will still do higher dmg. And b4 anyone ask why I want bow if I got fudo. I said it b4 I want another option and another weapon for my Sam.
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08-11-2011, 09:18 AMAtomic_Skull
Yes lets drive another nail in RNG's coffin shall we?
SAM/WAR would be stupidly overpowered with Jishnu's Radiance and the TP Bonus Great Katana. If offhand TP Bonus magian weapons affect the main hand they probably affect ranged WS too. -
08-11-2011, 10:13 AMDarkBasssam/war cant use ranged attack weaponskills. They can only use ranged attack weapon skills subbing rng and cor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull
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08-11-2011, 10:14 AMNeisan_Quetz
EDIT: Actually that won't even work and would still unbalance in favor of Sam, so I'm going to have to say no to the entire idea.
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08-11-2011, 11:19 AMPanthera
They did. It's called Yoichinoyumi.
Kidding!
I dunno about Bow that's specific to Trial of the Time Vampires, but a new bow from any source that lets Sam participate in distance-based NMs would be a good thing.
Pickard says,"Make it so." -
08-11-2011, 11:28 AMModoru
I miss Yoichinoyumi.
And the good ol' days. -
08-11-2011, 11:36 AMPantherayeah.......Quote:
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08-11-2011, 11:42 AMAtomic_SkullI assume that if Gandiva were SAM/RNG like Yoichiniyumi then Jishnu's Radiance would be available to SAM/whatever like Namas Arrow is.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkBass
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08-11-2011, 12:20 PMMatayoTp bonus no thanks I was thinking more of my 2-4 GKQuote:
Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull
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08-11-2011, 12:30 PMMatayo
I mean if you can use relic why not emp. Enough talk about it being overpowered. Take away RR now is it overpowered? I see y'all still thinking about inside abyssea with all the Atma and what not but I'm talkin past that. I use to Sam/rng ZNM fights cause I needed to in the situation. I'm pretty sure it will be another reason with up coming content.
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08-11-2011, 12:41 PMCorvin
I dont see how it be overpowered when Sam only has C+ in Archery it would be just another option for them to use if they really wanted to damage we all know what they A+ weapon is.
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08-11-2011, 12:54 PMAlkalinehoeOr Quint Spear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matayo
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08-11-2011, 01:53 PMTsukino_Kaji
Sam should not get the empyrean bow, ever. However, they should be allowed to do the regular bow trials.
Empyreans are fine where they are, but more jobs should have more access to the regular weapons. -
08-11-2011, 06:29 PMLushipurif this is possible then ok, but ill doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji
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08-11-2011, 08:09 PMMatayoIt's free but lower dmg base and delay. 2-4 GK delay 464 making it possible to get 100 tp 1 atk phase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alkalinehoe
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08-11-2011, 08:34 PMReardenI heard you need to sub RNG to use Namas ArrowQuote:
Originally Posted by Alhanelem
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08-11-2011, 08:35 PMSupersun
Because Sam receiving a +15 Store TP "Ammo" is totally fair...
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08-11-2011, 09:30 PMNeisan_Quetz
Don't forget Str/PDT paths either. At least they don't get attack to go with the Str, right?
Even if they did they would most likely limit it to Elemental trials only, and I still don't see that happening.