Asides from Verethragna, whats the best Magian weapon?

I use Monk and Pup the most at level 90 (monk is my DD and Pup is my fun solo job), I want to get a h2h weapon to use for both, however I don't have the time to invest into getting a full Aby weapon.

Recently, been trying to get coins of advancement for Revenant Fists, but sadly no one ever really does WoE on Quiz and my shouts are getting me no where.

Asides from those, which of the other H2H trials would be best for MNK/PUP?

I was thinking either Double attack +10 or the Strength +9 Attack +20, but just want some input from other people here.

Thanks.

I use the STR and ATK one. It is a bit rough on the mobs you need to kill but it was well worth it. (By rough I mean you have to kill wamoura and bombs 200 and 250 if I recall correctly)

not magian but the hth off the pony of doom MIGHT be passable?

If you're doing a Magian, then the two options are the Revenant Fists +2 or the fire path for the Taipain Cesti +2 (STR Path: 82>83>84>85>86>87>1146>1147>1914>2312). The multi-attacks are not longer great anymore and the other paths just do not provide great bonuses like STR and Attack.

Another option is the Taurine Cesti from Indrik. They're virtually equal to the Taipan +2 fire path with a lot less effort. MNK only though. So in that case, the Fire path would be the better for both jobs.

Furor Cesti are interchangeable for MNK/PUP and are not bad. Not great either though.

I already tossed the Furor Cesti aside, Im currently using Savante Fists with Dmg +3 Crit Rate +3, Figured that was pretty decent till I get something better

I honestly suggest the T. Cesti (they drop off indrik) don't have to bother with magain weapons and they are VERY good h2h. shy of the verth it self, i think the ehances boost effect is pretty significant, topped off with subtle blow and str+6.

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Originally Posted by Vortex

I honestly suggest the T. Cesti (they drop off indrik) don't have to bother with magain weapons and they are VERY good h2h. shy of the verth it self, i think the ehances boost effect is pretty significant, topped off with subtle blow and str+6.

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Stop preaching this, Taurine will be beaten by 95 Fire taipan fangs as Fire taipan vs. Taurine is margin-able right now.

While true, there may as well be another Taurine Cesti +1 that will drop off of Indrik +1 and will be just as good. Besides we don't even know if there will be a 95 Taipain Fangs +3 just yet. High probability, but doesn't make it a guarantee. I'd also suggest trying to keep at it for the Revenant Fists, though I'm sure you are.

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Originally Posted by Qkan

While true, there may as well be another Taurine Cesti +1 that will drop off of Indrik +1 and will be just as good. Besides we don't even know if there will be a 95 Taipain Fangs +3 just yet. High probability, but doesn't make it a guarantee.

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I would still do trial weapons instead of waiting for the next Rare/ex drop from NMs or an AH-able weapon, once you get it done your done simple as that you may even get Kindred seals and Beastmen seals along the way, its a bonus to many mnks out there without black belt including me.

I understand that, but what I'm talking about is your usage of absolutes. That the Taurine Cesti will be beaten by the Taipan fire path at 95. We don't know what Square-Enix's plans are for the Magian weapons at 95. They may not increase them. The increases may be extremely marginal. We don't know yet.

That and why get a weapon hoping it will be better in the future, when you can get a weapon you KNOW is better NOW.

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I understand that, but what I'm talking about is your usage of absolutes. That the Taurine Cesti will be beaten by the Taipan fire path at 95. We don't know what Square-Enix's plans are for the Magian weapons at 95. They may not increase them. The increases may be extremely marginal. We don't know yet.

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While I agree we can't know for sure what is in store for magian weapons, you must admit it's VERY likely that the existing magian weapons will get additional trials and better stats as the level cap goes up. Since Fire Taipan+2 and Taurine are very close now (similar on DoT, Taipans win easily for WS, but the Subtle Blow on Taurine provides some utility) it would be shocking if the Taipans don't pull solidly ahead with an additional trial or two. I sincerely doubt it would be a bad use of time for a player with MNK and PUP to do the fire path weapon if they aren't up to taking on the harder task of making Rev Fists/Vereth.

Then again, who knows, maybe we'll get some surprise like the lv89 JSE weapons also getting a +1/+2 version from trials.

Another thing I'd keep an eye on are the WS path magian weapons. The WS DMG+ ones might get better (or maybe lead to another weapon granting Victory Smite), maybe the Store TP ones will eventually give Regain or something. Might be that even considering non-Empyrian trial weapons, the Fire elemental ones will lose their place as the best of the rest.

Taurine are better inside abyssea with high attack. Anything with higher defense, Fire Taipan Fangs will pull ahead. The two are very close anyway, but will be outdated once the next update comes around and Taipan get moved to 95.

Also, the talk of magian trials stopping at 90 are pretty funny seeing how they mentioned adding new trials with the level cap increase on the timeline. Even if the upgrade to Taipan are "extremely marginal", it will push them ahead of Taurine.

I understand they said they're going to do it, but SE has said a lot of things that they have not done. Chances are high they will, but I never trust it until I see it.