Crystals in abyssea!

Is it to much to ask for? Crystal supply is massively low since only non abyssea mobs drop them, and everyone is inside abyssea. At one point on odin their was only 7 stacks of wind crystals on all nations AH combined. Not to mention as a result the price of them (all of them) have skyrocketed. I used to pay 300 for a stck now im paying 5000!

Considering its crafters that are useing them, it seems a delibreat slap in the face to those that have stuck with the game long enough to skill up their crafts. (which is a battle in and of itself) They put all that time and work in to it, and now they have issues with something as simple as a crystal. /sigh

If the game is going to be focused around abyssea for a good while, then please, let abyssea mobs drop crystals.

I often see several dozen stacks of crystals up on AHs, and crystals are a nice way for new players (believe it or not, they actually exist!) to get some quick cash. Not really sure if this is a problem, abyssea give you laughably huge amounts of *everything else*, maybe no crystal drops should just be the tradeoff for this.

sadly i agree, it is a good source for new players now. Its the only good thing to come out of it. And while a single stack jacked up might not seem liek much, when you have to buy bulk quanity, it truly adds up. I keep track of all my crafting bindges, what i used to pay for crystals at 7k~ total, is now costing well over 100k~. Its insain. Lvlin crafts are hard and expencive enough. Expecaly with so many loss of gil synths. This is one thing crafters dont need.

Increased crystal costs are the same for all crafters trying to make the same crafts. One maker of marinara pizza will feel the same increase in crystal prices as every other chef on the server, so there is no advantage or disadvantage to anyone, all that needs to be done is to charge more moneys for the final product. Considering you can make money out of thin air through a variety of methods, this is hardly a real problem.

If it's too much, you could always farm crystals yourself :>

'jsut raise the price of final product' is not always a adaquite solution. Not only will you then have everyone bitching about how much the product is, or the fact that it still doesnt take care of the supply problem, but what about ppl crafting (skilling) that are forced to npc their product? If you can find a way for me to just 'raise the price' of the goods im npcing, then ill give ya a million gill. Not to mention theirs a large number of synths for skilling tha are pure loss. Sometimes into the 100k+ some ppl have even told me well over 1m+ is losses. Crystals is jsut a slap in the face to that.

besides, why are you trying to defend a lack of crystal supply? greed? bordem? stupidity?

I've never had a hard time getting the crystals I need as a high level player, but then again if you're asking for them in Abyssea I doubt you're low level to start with. Nearly every job can farm elementals for the crystals they need short of maybe dark and light element due to their location and/or difficulty. Though, a character that's traversing the abyss shouldn't have too much of an issue farming their own elementals.

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Originally Posted by thefinalrune

a character that's traversing the abyss shouldn't have too much of an issue farming their own elementals.

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Exactly!

1. Get off your ass
2. Farm
3. ???
4. Profit.

If anyone actually paid attention to the storyline of Abyssea, in that world the Mother crystal is no longer shattered and the crystal lines are receding. All of the crystal shards have been retracted back into one mass (or in the process of). I wouldn't expect crystals to be in Abyssea.

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besides, why are you trying to defend a lack of crystal supply? greed? bordem? stupidity?

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Crystal prices were higher then they are now years ago and calling people names isn't going to get your point across.. Fire crystals use to sell for 5-7k a stack and if your leveling a craft and losing gil thats always been the problem, if you don't want to pay the AH price the alternative is to farm your clusters from elementals.. AH prices can be raised if you choose to synth for gil you have to compete with everyone else in the market but at the same time they are spending the gil on the crystal and losing out on gil where you can farm and make more gil then them. I farm practically everything I synth, why? because Im too cheap to pay the AH price for leveling a synth. There isn't anything you can't farm or buy from an NPC most HNM can be low manned now and all the high priced synth stuff has dropped in AH price because its not as hard to get it. End result a lot of high priced things (not all but a lot) have drastically reduced in price but its still not break even prices and the determined profit maker is still making profit. Rare items are being sold next to nothing but the items that are crafted from these still have a potential of High mark up prices. A lot of things in this game have been taken away and if your wanting to make gil off NPC'ing crafts then the only way to do this is trade time for gil. If you don't find it worth doing anymore then quit doing it and find a new way of making gil.
If your use to paying 300 gil a stack you weren't really spending 25 gil per crystal and if your spending 5k on a stack your spending 500 gil per crystal and with the lack of synthers in this day and age it isn't that much to raise your synth prices at the AH. If your worried about other people complaining about the AH prices of your synth then 1 take the loss and craft based off other peoples opinions and this will get you a net loss. #2 raise the price let people complain because this has always been what happens in this game. Prices go up and consumers complain materials go up and synth prices dont synthers complain. All prices go up everyone complains its a business your in and not as competitive as it use to be so if you want to make gil adjust your prices as such but don't complain because you choose not to farm your own crystals and want to complain about what the market is doing.
I honestly prefer the lack of underbidding on prices and the higher crystal prices I have plenty of jobs I will level up and collect crystals and sell on the AH so I will make gil in the process of it instead of just NPC'ing crystals for 10-15gil each because the market is flooded and everyone chooses to underbid

Go kill elementals. Spend like 2-3 hours in places with a decent amount of crystals and you'll have more than you can handle. >_>

Plus on the next Major patch I believe they are merging all the AHs and they are merging the servers. So there will be plenty of crystals which should help lower the prices. But otherwise just go and either farm crystals in higher leveled areas, or level up a lower leveled job or just go and spent the massive amounts of cruor/dominion notes you'll have and buy the crystals that way.