Abyssea VNM Suggestions

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04-12-2011, 05:28 AM
Zumi

[dev1003] Abyssea VNM Suggestions

Currently in Abyssea upgrade items for Empyrean armor and especially Empyrean Shield and Harp take much longer to finish then items that drop from other NMs that involve farming Key Items.

First off you need to go through T1 - T2 is around 20-30 kills on average.
Upgrade from T2 - T3 is usually around 6-10 on average.

This isn't so bad for the armor since you only need 6 drops, but considering if you need an upgrade item on a VNM it will take you a lot more time then someone who needs an upgrade item from a regular NM which is spawned with Key Items, since you can proc red on them and get the key item 100% of the time.

However needing 75 colorless souls to upgrade Shield and Harp takes so much time due to the amount of VNM that must be killed to upgrade to a T3 and the fact there is only 1 copy of the T2 VNM in the zone and it takes 15 min to respawn. This is the 2nd step in the upgrade process, the 3rd part is actually much easier since it only takes 1 Key item to spawn the NM you need to fight for your upgrade items.

Suggestions
1. I would add 3 copies of the Tier 2 VNM to each abyssea Zone to make this go faster.

2. I would change it so that if you get a Red !! on a VNM it will then 100% upgrade your abyssite to the next level.

If these 2 changes are made it would make getting upgrade items from VNMs much more inline with the time it takes to get upgarde items from regular key item abyssea Nms.
04-12-2011, 05:33 AM
Pofo

I strongly support this, I think Red procs should grant 100% upgrade. On the note of 3 T2's, idk, they are only 15 min repops, 2 copies should be plenty.
04-12-2011, 05:42 AM
Karbuncle

I truthfully never understood why Red "!!" promised Key Item on pretty much every NM with a Key item, except VNM upgrades...

I don't wanna hear all this BS about keeping it rareblahblah, They're no more important/better than any other +2 Item Monster or Rare monster, and Each one of those can be accessed by using the Red "!!" System >.>
04-12-2011, 05:48 AM
blowfin

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I truthfully never understood why Red "!!" promised Key Item on pretty much every NM with a Key item, except VNM upgrades...

Yeah its stupid, and then the T2 will upgrade the first time you pop it of course, when you really dont want it to.

Generally accepted ways to get around it are to have the T3 already, thus blocking the upgrade, or to warp out of the zone before the VNM dies. Both are pretty clunky, it would be nice to have both a guaranteed upgrade mechanism, and a simple way to block upgrades. Instead we have to make do with game mechanics that may or may not have been intended to solve the problems.