Can we have a solid slection of jug pets and a pet tp bar? Please?

I know people do not agree with alot of the things I say; however, can we all agree that we need a better selection of jug pets? I mean think about it, A scorpion with death scissors and sharp strike would solve most of our dd issues, minus acc. A wivre with all of their moves intact would solve our tanking and dd issues (But -DT will serve us well). The pets we have now are sub-par dd to begin with. A death scissors from a scorpion could kill you at 119, sweeping gouge would hurt you..a little. The pet food idea is a nice start, but they would not solve much imo. Now, if you give a sizable amount of acc from food to a scorpion or wivre; that can take bst over the top imo.

I totally agree with a lot you say, including this. I think I only disagree with you saying BST is not too expensive, but I accept that it's not too expensive for you :D

Thanks again for those birdies you sent. Got me addicted to the costly little buggers.

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Originally Posted by Olor

I totally agree with a lot you say, including this. I think I only disagree with you saying BST is not too expensive, but I accept that it's not too expensive for you :D

Thanks again for those birdies you sent. Got me addicted to the costly little buggers.

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No harm, no foul, i understand that not everyone wants to craft; i did not want to neither, it sucked.

I have my cooking up higher than any other craft (at 30ish now) but I just don't have time for it. Eventually I'll get it capped, but not for a very long time.

A scorpion, you say, WoW? It would probably end up something like this:

Job: War
Attack: Decent
Defense: Mediocre

-Poison Sting, 1 Charge, Poison
-Mandible Bite, 1 Charge, Knockback
-Sharp Strike, 2 Charges, Attack Up (255 Seconds)
-Wild Rage, 2 Charges, Area of Effect
-Death Scissors, 3 Charges, High Damage/Low Accuracy
Mysteriously Missing: Cold Breath, Numbing Breath, Earth Pounder and any NM-unique moves, naturally.

i.e. Something you could call in difficult content, but not for Death Scissors spam unless you Unleash, and it'd get tore up after a few Snarls.(Whereas Ibuki at least resists Slashing). An offensive pet to be sure.

Not trying to be negative; It'd be a scorpion, that alone earns style points. I'm just trying to visualize what SE would do to it.

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Originally Posted by Leonardus

A scorpion, you say, WoW? It would probably end up something like this:

Job: War
Attack: Decent
Defense: Mediocre

-Poison Sting, 1 Charge, Poison
-Mandible Bite, 1 Charge, Knockback
-Sharp Strike, 2 Charges, Attack Up (255 Seconds)
-Wild Rage, 2 Charges, Area of Effect
-Death Scissors, 3 Charges, High Damage/Low Accuracy
Mysteriously Missing: Cold Breath, Numbing Breath, Earth Pounder and any NM-unique moves, naturally.

i.e. Something you could call in difficult content, but not for Death Scissors spam unless you Unleash, and it'd get tore up after a few Snarls.(Whereas Ibuki at least resists Slashing). An offensive pet to be sure.

Not trying to be negative; It'd be a scorpion, that alone earns style points. I'm just trying to visualize what SE would do to it.

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I see what you are saying; which is why I stated that they should do away with the ready bar. It is a way to restrict bst pets guys; that is all it is (As if the pets were world beaters to begin with). Scorpions have been in the game since XI's release, but have yet to be implemented. They even won the poll, but mysteriously lost. A tp bar and even back to back ws usage would not be too extreme because you still need to gain tp; if the pet lives long enough to use sharp strike and death scissors throughout the battle.

Edit: Death scissors and sharp strike would tear through mobs lower than the scorpion (Crawler's Nest pts back in the day^^), but it would be serviceable on difficult content which is what bsts appear to want. A death scissors could kill you if the monster is at your lvl; but if you are well above the scorpions lvl (Difficult content), it would be damaging, but not lethal unless you are running low on hp. Death scissors is a reliable move, it always does nice dmg; this is what bst need imo. Not all monsters are dd machines; for instance, look at Hobs, Ibuki, or falcorr compared to the slug, frog, and mandy in terms of dd capabilities.

Should note that sharp strike normally lasts 3 min but for some reason they changed it in monstrosity without saying so down to 90 sec.

Also I'd say to use the upgraded versions of some of those moves... like instead of poison sting use venom sting. Yes I know it's generally an nm but poison sting is 1hp/tic poison and does less dmg than a melee hit. Crit bite instead of mand bite for similar reasons though not as big of an upgrade there. Also include evasion for some versility. Actually just get rid of the whole nm move restriction period. Give move lists more like what we get in monstrosity as well as the innate stat bonuses

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Originally Posted by dasva

Should note that sharp strike normally lasts 3 min but for some reason they changed it in monstrosity without saying so down to 90 sec.

Also I'd say to use the upgraded versions of some of those moves... like instead of poison sting use venom sting. Yes I know it's generally an nm but poison sting is 1hp/tic poison and does less dmg than a melee hit. Crit bite instead of mand bite for similar reasons though not as big of an upgrade there. Also include evasion for some versility. Actually just get rid of the whole nm move restriction period. Give move lists more like what we get in monstrosity as well as the innate stat bonuses

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I agree, this was all I was saying in the pet thread in general discussion; I do not want a full fledged monstrosity per se, but certain elements could really benefit bst. The moves you listed will not break the game by any means; Se appears afraid of bst or something, idk.

Playing monstrosity bothers me, because I find myself saying "Damn, they release buffed pets in some side content, but one of its' main jobs have had gimped pets since the release of XI." Monstrosity felt like a slap in the face to bst imo. This is just my opinion. It is almost as if they are dangling a carrot, lol.

We need better jug communication from them. I think they should really consider letting the big dogs out (Scorpions, wivre, rams, minus the ground shake), it is about time and well over due imo. Bst is merely a warrior without berserk, bloodrage, war cry, etc, a strong pet would just put us on a level playing field with the other dds.

I just want communication regarding the jugs and the accuracy of our debuffs. They replied to the food discussion; hopefully they give us some insight on the future jugs and their inability to land debuffs (This has been a gripe among bst for some time now). Food, better jug selection, and reliable debuffs will make bst desirable imo. I do not see how they could not^^ Come on SE, throw us a bone^^

I may have mentioned this in another thread, but it would not hurt if they conducted another poll, however, allow bst to chose their next batch of jugs as opposed to just one. This could happened well after the pet food buff update, because we will need pets to utilize +acc food. Give us a detailed rundown of what each pet would get. We usually get like what? three or four new pets? Just pick the winners by popularity rank. It would be quite fun to choose our pets one last time^^ Not sure ppl care enough about bst to create an account and troll the voting process, lol. The replies for each bst thread appear rather small. They may be reluctant to do another poll based on the uproar the last one created, but we did get a great jug from it; wouldn't hurt imo.

Edit: Hands down the best bst thread ever and arguably, the greatest jug of all time came from this poll^^ How useful was/is falcorr; a tank/dd with TH. Still use him to this day when farming.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ee-91-99/page8

Personally, I'm still waiting for that special Guttler pet they said they would look into...

...And wasn't that poll mostly on the JP side? I doubt they'll let us 4-5 NA BSTs on here pick a pet of our choosing, but...fine with me, I'll vote. :p