Subjob question

Well since I've been gone for a year dancer can now dual wield. So is ninja still a viable subjob to use ? Or is there a better subjob to use now like samurai?

You will be /NINing the majority of the time just for the protection shadows offer, /SAM and /WHM are situational at best and you would probably only be using them during exp parties.

I'd put it like this:
1) /NIN - Soloing, any time when you expect to take hate and not want to get hit
2) /WAR - DDing, where getting hit is okay
3) /SAM - DDing under very high Attack conditions (Red Curry Buns and Stalwart's always, etc) or main healing when someone else in your party has Haste.
4) /WHM - Potentially a main healing sub, if your group expects you to Haste them.
5) /RDM - This will replace /WHM at 99 sometimes

I have personally only used /WHM once ever. I haven't used /SAM since level 80. I went /WAR maybe twice in the last two months. Our subjobs give such minor benefits that shadows are very often more important.

/SAM has a couple situational uses, breaking Nyzul/trial weapons (wild flourish can only give you a lv2 chain with shadowstitch, while you can self darkness with sekkanoki) and I found some good use in some assaults (could practically solo saving private ryaaf as dnc75/sam were it not for the minimum entrants.)

ok, I'm wierd, I solo /thf, mostly. Evasion is evasion, I don't really care where I get it from. I do care about having the gil to pay for sushi and the like, so against almost anything but evil weapons /thf gets the nod from me. I am practicing my /nin to use ninjitsu for yellow !! procs, but mostly I stay /thf solo. I have seen no difference to my survival (I never die solo either way), but not using shadows I've managed to go up 7 full skill levels of parry in the last 2 months, I'm 203 now! My SJ doesn't seem to have an effect on my skilling throwing tho' as I hit 266 /nin today, but with slower skill-ups compared to my /thf earlier in the day.

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Originally Posted by Glamdring

ok, I'm wierd, I solo /thf, mostly. Evasion is evasion, I don't really care where I get it from. I do care about having the gil to pay for sushi and the like, so against almost anything but evil weapons /thf gets the nod from me. I am practicing my /nin to use ninjitsu for yellow !! procs, but mostly I stay /thf solo. I have seen no difference to my survival (I never die solo either way), but not using shadows I've managed to go up 7 full skill levels of parry in the last 2 months, I'm 203 now! My SJ doesn't seem to have an effect on my skilling throwing tho' as I hit 266 /nin today, but with slower skill-ups compared to my /thf earlier in the day.

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umm....going /thf does not increase your evasion. The evasion bonus traits do not stack. Also, it's easy to cap evasion using gear on dnc, regardless of subjob.

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Originally Posted by Kirana

umm....going /thf does not increase your evasion. The evasion bonus traits do not stack. Also, it's easy to cap evasion using gear on dnc, regardless of subjob.

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Not to mention, Evasion isn't going to shield you from a Thunder V, Burst II, etc etc.
/THF is a bad sub for DNC, only useful for TH but that's a universal /THF thing.

At 80+, I would argue /WHM becomes your de facto soloing sub when you don't need shadows. No other sub offers anything close to being able to Haste yourself, and even a 1 MP/tick refresh from a manual or a Sanction/Sigil latent is enough to keep a Haste cycle up permanently, to say nothing of -na spells.

Ugh I hate Ninja >< guess thats what the mains are will have to lvl it up some more then, thanks all

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Originally Posted by scaevola

At 80+, I would argue /WHM becomes your de facto soloing sub when you don't need shadows. No other sub offers anything close to being able to Haste yourself, and even a 1 MP/tick refresh from a manual or a Sanction/Sigil latent is enough to keep a Haste cycle up permanently, to say nothing of -na spells.

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(I can't believe I'm arguing for this.) Don't forget Stoneskin and Blink. And there's something to be said for the 15% -mdt from Shell II.