Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

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Originally Posted by Pharaun

I did my grinding when a 6k/hr party was great and an 8k/hr party was fantastic, 10k/hr was unheard of, and nothing any of you say will make me want to go back to something like that again.

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Yes! Those days were a complete nightmare...And as I'm sitting here trying to remember a good moment in those times(outside of partying with friends), I come to realize I don't even want to think about it....

oh please all this over dramatization of EXPing before abyssea... if you hated it that much, how are you still here.

If the EXP was raised even further for parties outside Abyssea, the grind would not be anywhere near as bad as it used to be, and then Abyssea entry could be raised to 70/75 without a problem.

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

oh please all this over dramatization of EXPing before abyssea... if you hated it that much, how are you still here.

If the EXP was raised even further for parties outside Abyssea, the grind would not be anywhere near as bad as it used to be, and then Abyssea entry could be raised to 70/75 without a problem.

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Because this is a great game in which to do things that aren't leveling.

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

oh please all this over dramatization of EXPing before abyssea... if you hated it that much, how are you still here.

If the EXP was raised even further for parties outside Abyssea, the grind would not be anywhere near as bad as it used to be, and then Abyssea entry could be raised to 70/75 without a problem.

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You're still ignoring the part where no one can explain what's wrong with abyssea leeching, no one can give an answer that doesn't boil down to "I just don't like it". When you can come up with a solid reason as to why it's bad, and not some emotional purely opinion based reason either, then we can have a discussion about it.

Its basically others have to grind or have grinded already to get jobs to a high enough standard, they brought spells/farmed armour/weapons meritted even, for what to let someone else leeching exp in a job they dont know how to play nor like most will ever use it to help others..... I think the standard level of abyssea should be raised to 75, or if they keep it at 30 make it that you either cant open chests or gain any exp from it, till u reach 75.

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

oh please all this over dramatization of EXPing before abyssea... if you hated it that much, how are you still here.

If the EXP was raised even further for parties outside Abyssea, the grind would not be anywhere near as bad as it used to be, and then Abyssea entry could be raised to 70/75 without a problem.

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Why adjust the exp gain in outside areas when SE could just lower the level requirement to to enter abyssea to 1? Then, eveyone gets abyssea XP.

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Originally Posted by windrider

Its basically others have to grind or have grinded already to get jobs to a high enough standard, they brought spells/farmed armour/weapons meritted even, for what to let someone else leeching exp in a job they dont know how to play nor like most will ever use it to help others..... I think the standard level of abyssea should be raised to 75, or if they keep it at 30 make it that you either cant open chests or gain any exp from it, till u reach 75.

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I don't think you've even read any part of the thread since this was covered on this same page. A majority of older players who have done the grinding and completed what you've mentioned have NO objections to others leeching.

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Originally Posted by Vivik

Why adjust the exp gain in outside areas when SE could just lower the level requirement to to enter abyssea to 1? Then, eveyone gets abyssea XP.

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Isn't the point of an MMO you pay for is to have Exclusiveness? Whats the driving force of every single MMO player out there? Exclusivity. That is why so many people sink so much of their time into an MMO. To be better than the next person. Lowering the limit to 1 would completely destroy that. At that point a F2P mmo would have more to enjoy than FFXI.
When Abyssea first started the limit at that time should have been 70+. It's entirely too late for that now. Every single player has already taken advantage of the exp gain at low levels it would be unfair to those that may be starting the game new, or returning. But please don't ruin it even further by lowering the level requirement for entrance even more.

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Originally Posted by Vivik

Why adjust the exp gain in outside areas when SE could just lower the level requirement to to enter abyssea to 1? Then, eveyone gets abyssea XP.

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That is the worst thing that could happen to this game, they might as well just start everyone at level 99 when they make a new character -.-

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Originally Posted by Niklz

Isn't the point of an MMO you pay for is to have Exclusiveness? Whats the driving force of every single MMO player out there? Exclusivity. That is why so many people sink so much of their time into an MMO. To be better than the next person. Lowering the limit to 1 would completely destroy that. At that point a F2P mmo would have more to enjoy than FFXI.
When Abyssea first started the limit at that time should have been 70+. It's entirely too late for that now. Every single player has already taken advantage of the exp gain at low levels it would be unfair to those that may be starting the game new, or returning. But please don't ruin it even further by lowering the level requirement for entrance even more.

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Well I dont know about others, I don't really care about exclusivity, and its not way I pay to play an MMORPG. I play to go on adventures, explore, and meet new people. Now it is nothing but level to 30 and go to Abyssea.