[dev1080] Thief - Assassin's Charge/feint proposed Adjustments

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Originally Posted by Arcon

That is the big question, currently. Personally I think it's the latter. I don't think SE will actually make it increase TH so readily, this would lead to big abuse (like on Behemoth). Could get 5 THF to increase TH to 30 in ten minutes, which sounds just ridiculous. Although if it had a cap, this would definitely be the way to find out.

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My extremely cynical guess: People will attain Treasure Hunter 30 regularly, be very happy for a very short time, and soon thereafter discover that Treasure Hunter 30 is roughly 2.7% better than the usual highs of Treasure Hunter 10~.

I always assume there's going to be a Twilight Zone Twist to every change, just so I can feel like some sort of doom-saying prophet who can predict the future if it turns out I'm right. I make similar predictions about my bowel movements.

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Originally Posted by Arcon

Pretty sure it's uncapped. I don't know where people get 11 from, when there's been tons of reports going to 13 and higher, there's a few screenshots with 14+ about (even on this forum somewhere).



That is the big question, currently. Personally I think it's the latter. I don't think SE will actually make it increase TH so readily, this would lead to big abuse (like on Behemoth). Could get 5 THF to increase TH to 30 in ten minutes, which sounds just ridiculous. Although if it had a cap, this would definitely be the way to find out.

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You assume that TH30 would actually mean something...

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[dev1080] Thief
Assassin’s Charge
Recast time has been reduced from fifteen minutes to five.
Additional merit points now increase the chance of a fourfold attack by 5% per merit point.
Feint
Recast time has been reduced from ten minutes to two.
Additional merit points no longer reduce recast time, but instead raise the chance of Treasure Hunter leveling up by 25% per point.

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Did they tell us about this? or just sprung it upon us? Either way, I like it!

Edit: wait actually, at least with acc, I knew 1/5 was the way ahead... now I have to think >.>

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Originally Posted by Babekeke

Did they tell us about this? or just sprung it upon us? Either way, I like it!

Edit: wait actually, at least with acc, I knew 1/5 was the way ahead... now I have to think >.>

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Yush, they did tell us that a while ago, because everyone seemed unimpressed about the accuracy boost. Same goes for the Warrior's Charge update, which will now grant a chance at a triple attack.

Wow, I must have read it whilst drunk or asleep... I went to find the post and I've already 'liked' it. Don't remember seeing it at all.

Warrior's charge is a no-brainer though. Tomahawk and Aggressive aim are worthless.
Aura Steal has it's uses, but I think I'll likely scrap it for good now.

I'm pretty sure I'll do 5/5 AS and AC. I have very little use for both Feint and TH at this point in time.

Also, Tomahawk is a VW proc. I've come across several WARs who merited it just for that. Not me though.

Well, from what I've seen myself in Dynamis, 5/5 feint IS NOT a 100% TH+ proc. Not sure if it's been mentioned by people on test server before now. Not sure if it's a bug. Not sure if it's just a poor choice of words for the merit description. Not sure if there's some fundamental thing about TH+ procs I just don't understand. But I was using feint every chance I got vs. NMs and it just wasn't getting me TH+. Heck, I went out to some really weak mobs just now (but not so weak that I could 1-shot them) and tried feint 3 times. 0 TH+ procs.

I posted a response in your bug thread, but yah, its bad interpretation i guess.

Feint gives +100% Chance to upgrade TH, and a 100% Chance.

It doubles your base rate pretty much. For instance, 10% of 10% is 1%, So with Capped Feint, You'd get 100% of 10%, Doubling it to 20% (Example numbers).

Was discussed when it was introduced on test server. Working as intended.

Hmmm, well I always forget to use feint, so unless I add it to a ws macro, maybe I'm better off just going AS AC too. I hoped that it was 100%, not +100%, but I guess I was sorely mistaken, afterall, 12-14 mins for a party with 1 THF to guarantee TH15 is of course broken (oh no, wait we usually kill stuff within 3 mins).

Is it just me, or does anyone else find themselves giving a little 'woohoo' if they kill a NM and see just 1 single TH proc?
I don't mean that I care that much because the difference between TH8 and TH9 is amazing, I just mean that it's such a rare occurrance.