your creditability dropped when you began attacking me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greatguardian
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03-17-2011, 03:44 AMKrystal
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03-17-2011, 03:45 AMrogActually it went up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krystal
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03-17-2011, 03:45 AMHFX7686No, I think most of the replies have been collectively responding to everyone's posts. Some people are just stating their opinion and reasons why very politely and sanely. Their opinions are worthwhile and should be taken into consideration. The people being directly responded to are the people, such as yourself, who are being trolls and a bit insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krystal
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03-17-2011, 03:49 AMCrystalWeaponIf you follow half the arguements going on in the forums they're:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrianna
A) A troll trying to get a rise out of everyone.
B) Genuinely that stupid.
C) Incredibly bored at work.
or a combination of the three. You either get a laugh out of it, or a massive headache. -
03-17-2011, 03:49 AMxSylarx
Let them leech you know why no one ever look 4 the dd that goes afk. Only the mages and leeches so let there be cake.
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03-17-2011, 03:56 AMUnaisisHeehee that was good ^_^Quote:
Originally Posted by rog
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03-17-2011, 04:05 AMMrbeansmanNo we responded with alternatives for you. You in turned proceeded to yell the same arguments over and over in a loud voice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krystal
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03-17-2011, 04:12 AMQeepel
Hey guys, let's try to stay on topic here. I know that this is a popular discussion and there are a lot of passionate opinions out there, so we really don't want to have to lock the thread due to off topic discussions or inflammatory comments. Remember that continued violations of the forum guidelines can also result in disciplinary action to your account.
Please refer to http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...la=1&tag=forum and http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...Discussion!for more information about the rules. Thank you for understanding! -
03-17-2011, 04:14 AMUnaisisParty pooper.... no cake for youQuote:
Originally Posted by Qeepel
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03-17-2011, 04:32 AMJerynh
This is my second attempt, but just like Krystal said, the posts that side with him/her/it are mostly overlooked. I want to start by saying that I, more or less, am on team Krystal in this debate. I don't like how they're handling it. To be honest, even, I don't think the level cap should be changed, I just think the level cap should have been much higher to begin with.
I don't think anyone can disagree that the addition of Abyssea areas (including raising the level cap altogether) changed the game completely. It, in fact, made a very large percentage of players feel like they just wasted the last 5 or 7 years of their lives. In all honesty, something was going to happen eventually... I mean, either the game had to eventually end, or content needed to grow to spark interest, and obviously SE is going to try and keep it going, and they chose raising the level cap. Either way, players would and did have that mourning period over the pieces of their lives they've dedicated to a video game.
All the arguments that are stating "Nobody is stopping you from leveling the old way" are just silly. Any hint of "fun" that came with the old grinding style will be gone knowing theres an easier way now. Nobody liked the grinding, but I bet those that did can remember all the camps they used to use and at least 1 story from them that brought them and immersed them into this game. I know I do. And when you finally reach 75... There's a sense of accomplishment that comes with it, however, and it isn't just about feeling good about yourself. It's also not about "bragging rights". But you earned your spot in end-game, and everyone in the end-game around you also earned their spot. That brings trust, that brings partnership... A while back, character buying was a big thing, and a HUGE portion of the community hated it, and shunned the players who did. These days, you wouldn't even know the difference, and it wouldn't matter. It only takes a couple weeks to start from scratch and build up multiple 90's if you're dedicated.
And lets not forget that the old way of playing wasn't just boring leveling until end game... There was a ton of stuff to do even though you weren't 75 yet. Missions had level caps that grew as you went deeper into the storyline. Tons of quests, whose rewards were not yet useless, were available. And don't forget crafting.
On the same note as nobody enjoying grinding, nobody enjoyed losing at missions either. But EVERYONE had the same opportunity and EVERYONE had the ability to beat those missions, no matter how many times they failed. And once you beat that mission, ooooh... I remember how long CoP 2-5 took me back when... It felt SO GOOD to get that out of the way, finally! The difficulty gave me a reason to stay with it and keep trying, and if at any point I felt like I had accomplished all the content I wanted to... Then it was time to start building up another 75 to be more prepared for the next batch of content.
People like Krystal and myself miss those days, and miss that game. I don't want to turn of FFVII and get myself to the end side quests in the amount of time it used to take me to get out of the first city. I don't expect or want that game to change, and I didn't expect or want FFXI to change either. But it did, and now we have to roll with it. Yes, our arguments are fueled by nostalgia 90% of the time... But can you blame us? Logging in is literally depressing for me now (which is why I stopped logging in for now).
The quests and the gear used to immerse us in the game. The combination of level sync and abyssea's mass exp made so much gear useless. Most gear from 1-30 and next to all gear from 30-75 is useless. Thats hundreds, maybe thousands, of item dat files gone to waste. Hundreds of nms that are useless to kill, and even if nostalgia brings you to hunt one down, nobody cares but you. Area's that are hardly ever visited. Endless hours spent crafting which is now a useless trade. Countless quests nobody will ever do, because the rewards are useless.
A couple weeks ago I went online and read through all the stone monuments for the Crawler's Nest map, followed that sad and heartfelt storyline, and it almost brought a tear to my eye. I won't be too surprised if not many of you have ever heard of that quest, and impressed if you have. Is there any reason to go to Crawler's Nest anymore? Are there people that don't even know that it is an area you can go to? You can call me weak, or sentimental, or a girl, or whatever, but its sad to me. I loved this game and the world it brought me into, and had some of the best times within it.
The two main reasons there is a lack of support on Krystals side are as follows...
1. It's a lot of bickering, on both ends.
2. Most people that agree with them already quit.
Level cap going to 99 and exp being so easy to come by just doesn't sit well with people that have been around a long time. That's just the way it is. There is no use arguing about it. SE had their reasons to do what they did and the people that enjoy it are playing an entirely different game that we used to love. That's all. I think I might start an online journal. I need an outlet and apparently I'm using this forum as one right now. Krystal... I'm sorry but you may need to quit FFXI, or you might never be happy.
Summed up:
Our reasons for wanted a higher level cap for Abyssea areas: We think it will change this game back to the game we used to play. Unfortunately, that game is long gone.
Thank you.