Do Relic, Mythic, and Empyrean staves lack utility?

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Originally Posted by Aurara

You're wrong because i can do this easily on whm.

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Either you or the WAR are lying. I don't care who, but one of you has to admit it and leave.

ITT: Because I suck and can't do it, nobody else can do it, either.

I am neither

1) the WAR who said SMN shouldn't melee because WHM don't have the MP
2) the WHM who said he not only has MP, but can handle the haste cycle.

It's kind of like GG's "5x" lie. They say what makes them look good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI0mQ...2606213D09B173

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Originally Posted by Dallas

Last I saw, our Ukon WARs still had tremendous butthurt over the TP feed of a melee SMN. I can understand why, they want to tank with Hasso. That means the WHM is going to be saving the Ukon WARs ass a LOT, and running out of MP. He is not going to be competent enough to handle all the stupidity the idiots are throwing around this thread AND the haste that any SMN could easily handle.

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Look, you were given the same buffs a WAR was given. WAR had Hasso, you had Hasso, WAR had 40% Spell Haste, you had 40% Spell Haste, WAR had 15% Ability Haste, you had 15% Ability Haste, WAR had 22% gear haste (toned it down for you), you had 22% gear haste, WAR had A+ rating on weapon, you had A+ rating on weapon (toned it up for you).

They have done everything in your favor and you still sucked. They even did not include WAR's JAs and WSs and gave you avatar damage and WAR still beat you 5 to 1. Now that you are saying that a WAR can't survive as a tank? Do you really want to go down that road? Seriously? Are you saying that you can tank better than a WAR? Or are you saying something incomprehensible to anyone but you?

The whole TP feed thing was stating that SMN TP feed does not justify swinging a staff. Which is what I told you months ago, but you wouldn't listen because that fact is detriment to your argument.

As much as I hate elitist attitudes shown recently, there are some facts that can not be ignored.

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Originally Posted by Dallas

Either you or the WAR are lying. I don't care who, but one of you has to admit it and leave.

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I think you're grasping straws now. I've tanked everything in abyssea as war/sam with a WHM, and had little to no MP issues.

I'm done with this. no one here is going to convince the other of anything.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

I'm done with this. no one here is going to convince the other of anything.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEIRp...2606213D09B173

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

I'm done with this. no one here is going to convince the other of anything.

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I know man it's useless to fight SMNs will still get invites and still prove useful regardless of the opinions of some of the population I gave up awhile back too lol

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prove useful

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Like I said earlier, I never said they weren't useful, just that they weren't good.

You can be useful, but if something else is more useful, I go w/ that and while you're useful, I'd use a word like "average" rather than good.