Screwed again: Proposed THF job adjustments.

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Originally Posted by Camate

We are planning to update the test server extremely soon and we will be releasing the exact schedule in the information section. Below are the planned adjustments for thief:

• Making it so an increase in the effect of Treasure Hunter is possible when using a close range physical weapon skill (*1)
• When using a weapon skill by itself, the rate of increase will be the same as a normal close range attack
• When combining a weapon skill with Sneak Attack/Trick Attack, the rate of increase will be the same as using Sneak Attack/Trick Attack.

(I am sure the next comment is going to make you say “WE KNOW! GEEZ!” but one last time…）
As stated previously, with the current system we are unable to display Treasure Hunter effect increase in the log when using weapon skills.

If we were to try and make it so it is displayed in the log, the work load would be roughly equivalent to the amount of work needed to adjust multiple jobs, so because of this we are not planning to make adjustments to this. Likewise, we do not have any plans of adding the effect increase animation for the same reason. We apologize.

*1 If it is a multi-hit weapon skill, the increase will occur on only the first hit.

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Wow, and with that THF is finally fixed! We'll be allowed to SA/TA-WS in ~2months without everyone butt-hurt that we waste SA/TA-TreasureHunter timers in try to raise from bottom-feeder-DD spot.
Sarcasm aside, this thing should have been included in yesterday's emergency update.
Keep up the.. good work, I suppose.

So if it's so hard to make an additional message saying the TH has increased, how about make a JA that has a 1 min recast that allows you to see what the th level is? At least we wouldn't spend an absurd amount of time trying to cap th when we aren't 100% sure it isn't already...

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Originally Posted by Falseliberty

yeah.... cuz thats what thfs want.... more TH crap good lord NO! More DD! more utility! more group buffs!
get rid of despoil and mug and try again please

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THF is a TH totem that can occasionally save a mage, get over it.

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Originally Posted by Sekundes

At least we wouldn't spend an absurd amount of time trying to cap th when we aren't 100% sure it isn't already...

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Cap TH how? I've never heard of anyone trying to cap TH on purpose, before killing something. This update isn't great, but it's not bad, it's what should have been done already.

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Originally Posted by Sekundes

So if it's so hard to make an additional message saying the TH has increased, how about make a JA that has a 1 min recast that allows you to see what the th level is? At least we wouldn't spend an absurd amount of time trying to cap th when we aren't 100% sure it isn't already...

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or better yet just a command like: /echo "Treasure Hunter Level"

Or you could just keep on meleeing it as thf like normal nonsucky people would. or bother to read the chatlogs.

theres a cap?

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Originally Posted by Arcon

Cap TH how? I've never heard of anyone trying to cap TH on purpose, before killing something. This update isn't great, but it's not bad, it's what should have been done already.

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By hitting, wsing and SA and TA'ing the mob until you can't get any more TH procs? I was under the assumption that you could only get it so high before you could not get any more increases... I'm no thf though, so if I'm wrong please point it out for me... On high time investment things like say going for KB pops, I sure as hell want TH as high as I can possibly get it.

Highest seen was ~13 or so. But it can almost certainly go higher. Just a really low chance...

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Originally Posted by Sekundes

By hitting, wsing and SA and TA'ing the mob until you can't get any more TH procs? I was under the assumption that you could only get it so high before you could not get any more increases... I'm no thf though, so if I'm wrong please point it out for me... On high time investment things like say going for KB pops, I sure as hell want TH as high as I can possibly get it.

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I don't disagree, but what is the cap? How do you know you can't get any more TH procs? Unless you're willing to solo AV for five months, and see how many upgrade procs you get, I doubt anyone can confirm an upper cap for the TH effect. It's hard to even get to 9 most of the time, even soloing NMs like Orthrus I don't often get to 9. And people have confirmed TH13 already, so how likely is it that you're ever going to get 14? In your lifetime? Practically zero. So we just don't know how high the cap is, it just depends on how much you're willing to let a THF hit a mob before it dies.