New 99 trials

so you can kill ADL, "with ease" might I add, and yet you still want to buy marrows for 10m a piece?

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

yeah and it's cake.

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Look, if you're incapable of getting a popset, it's ok! We understand you're incapable. Spewing nonsensical bull isn't going to help people think of you as less of an incapable tool. I mean, it's really ok if you keep wiping to DL and we can accept the fact that you can't beat a single earth wyrm.

Look deep within yourself and find acceptance in your failure as a player.

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Originally Posted by Nynja

so you can kill ADL, "with ease" might I add, and yet you still want to buy marrows for 10m a piece?

http://27.media.tumblr.com/avatar_6feb8634e3d0_128.png

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10 M is clearly cheap. Like if I see a riftcinder for 500k I buy it >_>.

Where's the videos of the easy NMs? Or is pchan admitting to not being able to do what he claims he can.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

No it was not.

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yes it was! it was the point that I brought up and talked about, building the pop set. I know that you generally ignore anything that makes you look bad/hypocritical, but that doesn't change the facts.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

10 M is clearly cheap. Like if I see a riftcinder for 500k I buy it >_>.

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riftcinder is a random drop rate off a shoutable mob where cinders will enter the system by people who dont target it. Marrows will not be randomly entering the system...thats like me working at ford, and buying a honda

We understand your point, you can't kill ADL ; got it. Go to BG now.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

We understand your point, you can't kill ADL ; got it. Go to BG now.

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So weres your vid. We are still waiting.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

We understand your point, you can't kill ADL ; got it. Go to BG now.

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We understand, you can't duo farm ADL pops and then 6 man ADL. got it, go back to your hole now.

People taking Pchan seriously? Oh my.

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Originally Posted by Draylo

People taking Pchan seriously? Oh my.

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I think it's mostly just ridicule now since he can't produce proof to back up his claims of duoing ADL pops and 6 manning ADL without 2 hours.

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

I think it's mostly just ridicule now since he can't produce proof to back up his claims of duoing ADL pops and 6 manning ADL without 2 hours.

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Also we dont need the dev's thinking that 6manning ADL regularly is possible.

You guys really don't understand Pchan, do you?

He'll never claim that He can kill ADL with 6. He'll just say it's theoretically possible for an absolutely perfect group of 6 people who never make a mistake and always pick the correct clone. He'll say, "It can be done", but of course he'll never see that as a binding obligation to prove it. To him, it should be evident: If a group cannot kill ADL with 6, then they are not perfect and that's the problem.

Don't ever expect proof from Pchan. Ever.

Unless it involves magic accuracy.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

We understand your point, you can't kill ADL ; got it. Go to BG now.

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Are you doing to post those duoed ADL pop NM's or what?

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its funny, when I said that a group cant duo their way thru all the NM's to GGears, you were so quick to post a video to prove me wrong (which you didnt...you showed you and mdk duoing GGears, theres no undeniable proof that you killed Hammerblow and Powderkeg as well as clearing all the mobs as a duo on the way there). Yet now you're balking really hard, but still trying to put up a fight.

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

6 manning ADL without 2 hours.

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Funny how it without 2hrs now, almost as if you are uncertain to be right.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Funny how it without 2hrs now, almost as if you are uncertain to be right.

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You said you would be doing several of them per run, so obviously you can't use your 2 hours since you have to do multiples and dynamis is 2 hours long, quit trying to nit-pick at your own suggested ability and go prove you can do.... well, prove you can do anything, all you ever do is make outrageous claims.

This is you saying to do multiples in one run:

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

THEN on another run, gather with other people and pop multiple times.

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Wait wish what about all those cor and smn mules he expects every one to have. Surely with that you could do more then one a run ^.~. While most hardcore players might have alts expecting them to be able to finish content in any reasonable amount is bad game design.

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Originally Posted by Ravenmore

Wait wish what about all those cor and smn mules he expects every one to have. Surely with that you could do more then one a run ^.~. While most hardcore players might have alts expecting them to be able to finish content in any reasonable amount is bad game design.

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Those mules are already going to be on healer jobs keeping people alive, or other support jobs (cor / brd...Perfect Defense or not, you will wind up taking damage.

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

You said you would be doing several of them per run, so obviously you can't use your 2 hours since you have to do multiples and dynamis is 2 hours long, quit trying to nit-pick at your own suggested ability and go prove you can do.... well, prove you can do anything, all you ever do is make outrageous claims.

This is you saying to do multiples in one run:

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What the heck, why does poping multiple times prevents you from using 2H.

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Originally Posted by Nynja

Those mules are already going to be on healer jobs keeping people alive, or other support jobs (cor / brd...Perfect Defense or not, you will wind up taking damage.

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No. You don't need a cure since you use PD. Only reason to bring a WHM is if you farm afterwise but even then a single SMN or BRD will do it. Dynamis mobs are so weak now.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

No. You don't need a cure since you use PD. Only reason to bring a WHM is if you farm afterwise but even then a single SMN or BRD will do it. Dynamis mobs are so weak now.

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ITT: Perfect Defense causes you to take 0 damage...

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

What the heck, why does poping multiple times prevents you from using 2H.

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I dont know, maybe cause its called a 2-hour ability because you can only use it once per 2 hours?

Everytime he posts without a screenshot makes me smile lol.
What GG said is correct, Pchan argues strawman theories and theoretical "perfect" groups. How someone as subpar as him would even know how high-end people operate is a mystery, however.
Keep posting though, everyone, this thread does produce the funnies

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Originally Posted by Nynja

ITT: Perfect Defense causes you to take 0 damage...

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Pretty much. If you can't kill ADL before pd wears off it's quite proof of gimpage. Typically a group of 6 will take 50% of it's HP before it splits.

MorkovChain i disagree with your opinion on ADL.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Pretty much. If you can't kill ADL before pd wears off it's quite proof of gimpage. Typically a group of 6 will take 50% of it's HP before it splits.

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And now tell me, when he splits, how do you know which is the real one so you can kill it before PD wears off?

you kill both as they repop with the same HP as the one that split ...

And is this something that you can prove can be done, or is this all theoretical paper garbage that you keep putting out?

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

you kill both as they repop with the same HP as the one that split ...

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So you do this with three people on each? Well, you have one SMN so I assume you would only have five actual melee, so three melee on one and two melee on the other? And if you kill the copy first and the real one branches off another clone, how does that work?

Still smelling mass amounts of bull.

You kill them one by one ; I'm not sure what so hard to understand. And yeah you are not going to kill all copies always, who cares ? 2 weeks instead of 1 week to get them. A decent 6-man group is going to be surviving one split and killing 2 copies total at least. That's about what you will avergae anyway, 50% chance of killing the right thing. Shit If I can do it with 2 level 95 empy and 2 gimp DD how can a 4x level 90+ empy DD not do it.

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Originally Posted by Alerith

And now tell me, when he splits, how do you know which is the real one so you can kill it before PD wears off?

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There is actually a pretty easy and fail proof way....

I think 6 can take him. Probably not more then twice in 1 run. (lucky COR 2hr) MNK/WAR/DRK,MNK/WAR/DRK,BRD,COR,SMN,SCH/BLM (embruva/stunga)

Killing him too fast can make the figher harder, which favors 6 good players.

Pchan speaks a lot of garbage but I think its doable with 6, possibly twice in one run. Ideally you'd want a 7th for TH and if you want a guarenteed win you'd have a 2nd pty standing outside of 50' ready for PD zerg incase of AoE terror.

There is also the upcoming AoE nerf which could make him even easier.

COR is useless in your setup (what rolls ? does this beat a 3rd mnk?). Same goes with the SCH. Killing him too fast does make it harder ? How ? I read the last post on the BG thread and me and mdk are nearly 100% certain that the huge stoneskin thing is bullcrap, we think they are mixing with the fact that he takes zero damage when summoning. Which lasts a few seconds.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

You kill them one by one ; I'm not sure what so hard to understand.

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You're right, were dumb...how about you make a video and show us.

I think Pchan likes to blow a lot of smoke without facts or proof to back him up, so I will try to provide some observations from an actual recent kill. We just killed ADL in shell this week and at level 99, I can say that he is much easier than people think. 18 people definitely isn't required, but he literally melted with the 18 we brought, so smaller groups can do quite well here. (We chose the right clone after first split and the whole fight didn't last longer than 20-25 seconds. PD was still on as we were running down the slope to farm more Tome NM's.)

I think an average group with 12 people can take down original + 2 clones before PD wears, and an excellent pimped-out group of 6-8 can take down original + 1 clone. If the 6-8 person party chooses wrong the first time, they will probably wipe. The fight is still pure luck of course unless SE ninja-fixes it.

Oh noes look post after post this thread goes ineluctably towards pchan is right.

To be fair, I think people were rankling at some of the claims you made re: duoing Tome NMs etc., without providing proof. I can't say I disagree with them :P

Keep in mind when I say original + 1 clone, I mean bringing original mob down from 100-60% ish, then it clones, people choose one clone and bring it down from 60-0%. It is basically bringing ONE mob down from 100-0, which I DO think is possible with 6 people. You just have to be lucky, which is what sucks about this fight. An extra party allows you to spin the roulette wheel TWICE and maybe kill two clones. A full alliance of 18 allows you to spin the roulette wheel THREE times or more.

The only advantage of a full alliance is poping a dozen of ADL.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Oh noes look post after post this thread goes ineluctably towards pchan is right.

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Lol what? You do speak English right?
POST SCREENSHOTS jesus christ.

Ya know what? After this long, he is admitting he can't do it. It's ok buddy we all knew from day 1.

Case closed, you heard it from PChan himself- He was mistaken in his claims.

/sh "Casino" "General Discussion" "99 Trials thread" Bet on how it will end! Winners everytime!

1: ~chan gives up AND admits he's wrong (1,000,000 :1)
2: ~chan just stops posting (10:1)
3: Thread gets locked (2:1)
4: someone posts pic's of chan wiping to ADL (5:1) DL (10:1)
5 ~chan stop's posting because he buys all the items and says he did it himself (50:1)

Place your bets!

No option for he keeps stammering it can be done w/o posting proof because that would mean the thread doesn't end.