WoEs

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Originally Posted by katz

And you are not getting my point. My point is if Im solo or if Im in another 10 man LS that doesnt fight the main boss, I can still lot on the drops despite your LS rules. What you all are asking for is an event arena where only your party can lot. I dont have a problem with your area your lot, I do have a problem with LS thinking just because they are in an area they are the only people who can lot. Make WOE both. A system where an Alliance leader can chose to make the event Alliance only at a higher gil rate than an event with a free lot system. This will entitle both sets of groups to enter and do the event however they chose to do it and still allow the soloists the right to enter.

PS I do go in solo only to be gate crashed by LS

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This whole post is the reason SE is changing the event. Since abyssea is done they will have to add full emp. weapon upgrades some were. Its either going to be Void, new NMs in abyssea or WoEs. If its WoEs the harrassment free zone lotting would be massive. It was poor design from the start now they are fixing it.

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Originally Posted by Rearden

The only WoE worth doing is Gun

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Why would the WoE be worth doing when you can do Carabosse and CC parts in 2-3 days? Seriously the easiest empy path to finish and you're saying do the WoE version? o_Oa

It's the only one you're not going to benefit from the ODD

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Originally Posted by Esvedium

Why would the WoE be worth doing when you can do Carabosse and CC parts in 2-3 days? Seriously the easiest empy path to finish and you're saying do the WoE version? o_Oa

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A group of say 5-6 people who know what they are doing can get 30 coins in a few hours.

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Originally Posted by Esvedium

Why would the WoE be worth doing when you can do Carabosse and CC parts in 2-3 days? Seriously the easiest empy path to finish and you're saying do the WoE version? o_Oa

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Probably because Wildfire is pretty much just as good from the WoE version - and it's pretty much regarded as a "brew" weapon skill.

If I had to choose between getting LS help for Verethragna or Ukon, I'd take those over the gun - and maybe solo the gun if people got tired of farming Empyreans after so long...

Related: Is the WoE bow or club worth a damn? I already have enough coins of decay...

I also have a ton of Glory Coins (like 20) - is there a better choice from katana/sword/g.axe?

Bow is the best option for RNG and comes pretty close to Gandiva given the ODD on ranged weapons is essentially wasted.

Some Emphs can probably be done faster but not all of them. Also have to consider that as you do WoE your going to amass a pile of all the different types of coins "Looking at you Coins of Ruin", though with the elimination of personal chests this might change. Doing a emph for your main or favorite job isn't that hard but if you play a spread of different DD jobs WOE weps are a good secondary option. Basically it all comes down to what type of group you run with play time bla bla bla as to which option is best for you.

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Originally Posted by Zagen

I don't understand the logic in doing things as a "soloist" in a massive multi-player online role playing game. Want it for an achievement of some sort? Cool then deal with it the way it works now, or works in the future but don't complain when a MMORPG doesn't cater to a "soloist"

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the trouble is not everyone can get a group for the things they want and need - especially when they are just starting out. As a BST, for example, no one will take me on seal runs. I've asked and they say "do you have another job?"

Well when you've just started a new character and toiled all the way to 90 (it took me about 4 months cause I can't play non-stop) - it is pretty sucky to be told to go level a new job if you want to play with other people.

Then you are still stuck even if you do level another job because you can't afford to gear it properly/get spells for it/whatever and people don't necessarily want to help you.

Now, I am fairly lucky to have a nice LS - but still there isn't many of us and everyone has different goals, and people are often with pick up groups and stuff so - it isn't very often that people are able to put together a group for something they want out of LS mates. Add to that the fact that we aren't very pro (no one in the shell has an emp weapon for example) - and then it becomes clear that content that is designed for 18 people is really unfriendly to a LOT of the playerbase.

"Solo'ist" got me 7 coin of decay in 2 runs as whm. I'm going to miss that, but I think the change is better.

What content is designed for 18 people...?

Also, BST is a solo job, so I'm not sure what you expected but if you make a party of 4 people and you need 1x WHM, 1x BLM/BRD, 1xBLU or THF and 1xTank (Can be BLU, THF, MNK, NIN, etc) it's fairly easy to see that you don't exactly fit any of those aside from maybe THF, but Dipper can't proc additional TH so...

If you're a BST, you should have a WHM sub around 50, so just take that to 90 and 12 hours later you can get seals in pick ups.