So are they banning people on the brew holds?

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Originally Posted by rog

You have to be harmed by it.

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Actually, I am harmed -- the only legal question would be sufficient harm to claim legal damage.

I am harmed because there are portions of this game, because I refuse to play with illegal programs, that I will not be able to play. That's reality and truth.

I am harmed because the game has no future, due to the known necessities of cheating and skirting the rules.

I am harmed because what I _do_ do in the game is damaged because very few players fundamentally respect fair play.

Care I go on, Rog?

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Originally Posted by Starcade

Actually, I am harmed -- the only legal question would be sufficient harm to claim legal damage.

I am harmed because there are portions of this game, because I refuse to play with illegal programs, that I will not be able to play. That's reality and truth.

I am harmed because the game has no future, due to the known necessities of cheating and skirting the rules.

I am harmed because what I _do_ do in the game is damaged because very few players fundamentally respect fair play.

Care I go on, Rog?

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You would have a better chance suing every cop/police station.

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Originally Posted by Starcade

Kiss my entire white keester, cheater.

The only reason I am "bad" is because I am limited in what I can do in the game to what the cheaters and exploiters won't run over -- and that includes those necro-claims which Square-Enix should declare exploits and ban the lot of you jackalopes for.

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What are you even talking about? Majority of the good gear now comes from Abyssea. How are people keeping you from obtaining gear in Abyssea? Sounds like you just want gear to fail into your lap.

Starcade,
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Starcade,

please post a link to where an SE representative said they know about the salvage dupe "trick" and that it is a known mechanic and by design. I would really like to see it. Because, as far as I know, that was a glitch and not purposely made to work that way.

Anyway, my advice to you is to stop playing. This game seems to cause you so much stress it can't possibly be healthy, and you obviously don't play because you have fun and enjoy it. And honestly, don't you realize how absolutely ridiculous you seem, getting SO worked up over what other people do in a game - to the point where you want to sue SE. Good luck with that by the way, go sue SE because they have designed certain mechanics of the game in such a manner that it upsets you.

"Your honour, SE has caused me mental distress and kept me from enjoying the game that I voluntarily play and pay for, because of how they designed the temporary item called Primeval Brew in such a manner that players can pause the timer and thus kill multiple monsters using only one of said temporary items."

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Originally Posted by Alukat

are u sure?
well a ban list would be dead ass long if they keep, might be that they say its permanent and u believe it because u can't use it after 4 or 5 months.And after 6months they maybe clean the list to reduce the calculation the server has to do (file size would increase and increase and increase if they don't do it).
i know its speculative but it could be.

happened to me at diablo II the only time i was cheating , its like 6 years ago, and i got banned for maphack.
so i am branded and i've never used cheat/3rd party tools again.
however it showed me perm bann and after approx 6 months i was able to use the key again.

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If that's true my friend could play now who got banned 2 years ago? Dont think so.

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Originally Posted by Starcade

Yeah, I guess I'm "thick" to see that people are EXPLOITING that mechanic to possibly extend the amount of time they are under brew so monsters can be held so that more people can kill them?

Hell, you people think I'm so stupid, and even I figured that out in about 4 seconds.

There is a difference (not that a cheater/enabler like you would care -- pick the one you are) between the mechanic being intended and the way people are using it being intended.

Logging hate has the same problem. The mechanic of logging out is intended, but doing so specifically to remove hate is an EXPLOIT.

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You're just tilting at windmills again...

Were you dropped on your head as a child, perhaps multiple times. That's the only thing that I can figure out that would cause you to be so delusional.

If you were to have your way we'd still be stuck back in the stone ages getting exp at 3k/hr with only paladins as tanks because that's the way that SE intended it. We wouldn't have Nin or /nin blink tanking since SE didn't consider the possibility of spamming utsusemi as a way to avoid to damage. Just because SE didn't intend for a certain gameplay mechanic to be used in a different way doesn't mean that it violates the TOS.

Pretty much every innovation in game strategy came from some one finding a new and unique way to use the game mechanics that SE most likely had not considered. At that point SE will come out and say if the new tactic is legit or not. In this case they have specifically said that they know about using NPC interactions to stop the brew timer and they are completely fine with it at this time.

Despite what your delusional brain tells you, you are not the person who gets to determine what is an exploit in the game, that is left up SE. You seriously need to go get some help for your obvious mental disorders.

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If you were to have your way we'd still be stuck back in the stone ages getting exp at 3k/hr with only paladins as tanks because that's the way that SE intended it. We wouldn't have Nin or /nin blink tanking since SE didn't consider the possibility of spamming utsusemi as a way to avoid to damage. Just because SE didn't intend for a certain gameplay mechanic to be used in a different way doesn't mean that it violates the TOS.

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Yes they did intend for it. Maybe they did not intend for nin to replace pld as a tank, but they absolutely intended for it to be used to avoid taking any damage. Nin was intended to be exactly what it is today: a strong dd, with incredible defensive capabilities.

I don't get it how is people using brews to kill 7 or 8 NMs in a row hurts your game at all? Some people on here just like to complain about every little thing. Honestly I hope SE doesn't change the way brews work because it would just inconvenience the majority of the playerbase if brews all of a sudden still count down their timer when talking to a NPC.

Say if I can kill 8 nms in 1 brew thats 1.4m curor I don't need to farm.

Don't you people have better things to do then complain about brew locking?

I don't see the wrong in Brew locking, its a mistake on SE's part, why should someone get punished for a mistake SE made? Besides they are using their Cruor to purchase said brew if people want to go brew happy by all means let them, they'll eventually run out of cruor.