109/119 Empyrean Armor, Can we have it?

Some of the abbysea pieces look good. Thief and ninja look greath

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Originally Posted by Protey

overgeneralize much? I have no problem gearswapping when WSing, buffing, and the like. It's the time dependent swaps i don't like.... like swapping gear just because it's a certain time of day.

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ah yeah, i can agree on you then, this day of time/moonphase/wtfdirection gear is definitly something i dont like to see, and it has recently started to come up a bit. (Tenzen ammo, various other hardmode or delve 2.0 drops)

Yeah, i'm starting to wonder myself when this will be implemented for the reforged gears since I have been on pause of upgrading relic or even the artifact gears to my blu or whm while still wearing my Abby Plus 2 body, hands and head along with the rest of the NQ other area sets to the blu gears which was never handed an option to be upgraded in the abby areas of the past. Camate Have you stopped by this thread lately? ;-)

The theory is that Empyrean armor set-bonuses needed extra time to calculate on a 109-119 setting, and this is why reforged AF & Relic armors popped up really quickly but Empyrean is taking longer.

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Originally Posted by Louispv

Worse, 20 colorless souls per piece, for 109, then 100 Heavy Metal Plates for 119.

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http://forum.exotics4life.com/attach...2&d=1337906794

If this happens, I won't even bother working on empy armor

Honestly I'd be happy if they either add role-specific stats to new armor for reforged empyrean or add role-specific stats to any new ilevel adoulin gear.
(Examples; Healer gear with Healing cast time-, cure potency, fast cast, haste, mnd, etc.
pet job gear with damage taken- and pet: haste/acc/atk
Non-sam dd gear with decent stp and stats that make using it possible.
Reforged versions of current idle gear. (Basically anything that currently only has hp/mp/dt-/etc gets normal stats on top of it))

Yes please. But let's not get carried away reforging everything willy-nilly. people are QQing for reforged salvage gear and sky gear and abj gear, forget that. You're not seeing the big picture. the JSE sets are supposed to be integral to their jobs and need to be kept current. Reforging non job-specific gear is irrational. I know people liked those sets, so what say you calm down and be patient and maybe SE will have a return to that content like they've done with the high-tier battlefields and NNI etc. Sky V2? yes, please. I don't support reforging all the old 75 cap gear. I would however, be in favor of 75 cap content. Change ballista 60 to 75. Introduce 75 cap dungeon crawls that earn ilvl 119(+?) rewards. There is a huge untapped nostalgia market with 75 cap content. I saw a thread someone asking for an "old server to play on" talking about 75 cap content only. That isn't a good idea, but some 75 cap dungeon crawls or ballista is.

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Originally Posted by Stompa

The theory is that Empyrean armor set-bonuses needed extra time to calculate on a 109-119 setting, and this is why reforged AF & Relic armors popped up really quickly but Empyrean is taking longer.

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That's very likely. Besides it taking longer, the set bonuses could potentially break the game and render the AF119 and Relic119 armors obsolete or macro pieces at best in a hurry. I know all you power players have full 119 sets of both for multiple jobs, but some casual players (i'm not talking about myself) still don't have any 119 anything. It's way too soon for 119 empy gear. SE already releases new content faster than casuals can keep up with. I'm looking forward to the completion of seekers and them giving us a year or so to let the casuals catch up.

Also, we "lifers" who started this game when it came out (october 2003 in the US) are getting older, and more and more of us are having kids, which doesn't leave a lot of time for gaming. Kids who game all day don't stay on old games either. Pretty much everyone I know on FFXI is old. All the kids bounce to whatever is new. Can't wait til they all bounce off FF14 so it will fail like EQ2 and we get some of our staff back.

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Originally Posted by Janethetaru

Yes please. But let's not get carried away reforging everything willy-nilly. people are QQing for reforged salvage gear and sky gear and abj gear, forget that. You're not seeing the big picture. the JSE sets are supposed to be integral to their jobs and need to be kept current. Reforging non job-specific gear is irrational. I know people liked those sets, so what say you calm down and be patient and maybe SE will have a return to that content like they've done with the high-tier battlefields and NNI etc. Sky V2? yes, please. I don't support reforging all the old 75 cap gear. I would however, be in favor of 75 cap content. Change ballista 60 to 75. Introduce 75 cap dungeon crawls that earn ilvl 119(+?) rewards. There is a huge untapped nostalgia market with 75 cap content. I saw a thread someone asking for an "old server to play on" talking about 75 cap content only. That isn't a good idea, but some 75 cap dungeon crawls or ballista is.

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I disagree with this. What about people like me who aren't hardcore, but not totally casual either, but still have limited resources to upgrade? I've been largely holding off upgrading a ton of AF/Relic waiting on the Empy pieces. The stats on them destroy the other sets, and if not for the lack of stat vomit and evasion/magic evasion bonuses, they would be better than relic/AF upgraded already. So yes, once they receive the 109/119 treatment, they will likely be better than anything available right now. Why is it a bad thing though? Only sucks for brand new people or people too dumb to take advantage of the free seals and +2 upgrade items they've been giving us in the login campaigns. Thanks to those, I've completed 10 sets up to +2 and I'm really close on a few others.

I may have an idea of why it's actually taking so long:

They intend to include it with the first raise in the iLevel cap.

The delay makes more sense if NQ reforged Empy is going to be, say, 115 or 117, with the HQ at 129 instead.