Follow-up: Level 99 Relic, Mythic, Empyrean, and Walk of Echoes Weapons

This sounds like a promising idea, however as many have already posted, I feel that COIN WEAPONS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO UNLOCK EMPYREAN WEAPONSKILLS.

It seems as Empyreans are already being considered a 3rd category after Mythics and Relics. The cost and effort to 99 an Empyrean is now more than that to make a 99 Relic, so this hierarchy seems kind of pointless to begin with yet it is still acceptable. Unlocking Empyrean weaponskills would make Empyrean weapons absolutely useless, as using that weaponskill with other weapons would be a much better result.

I believe people who put much effort and gil into 99ing their Verethragna or Masamune or even Almace (like me) wuold be very unhappy to have done all that just to store their weapon and use the weaponskill with Spharai or Excalibur. What was so nice before was the choice and the different situation where every weapon shined. This would undoubtedly be lost as the only reason to ever make an empyrean, would not be it's use, but the possibility to unlock the weaponskill, absurdly MAKING A 99 COIN VERSION PREFERABLE OVER A 99 EMPYREAN, thus rendering all of the hard work and gil put into these utterly and completely useless.

It is not by chance that Mythic weapons have unlockable weaponskills and are the weapons with the most powerfull stats at the same time, they would be useless if they were not stronger weapons. Making Empyreans the "weaker" tier of relics and unlocking their WS would be a mortal blow.

Thank you for your time, I hope I am understood :)

Galiber, Ragnarok server.

The only reason the DMG on that updated Almace is lower than Excalibur and Burtgang is because it's delay is lower than the other two.

Personally, I fully support the idea using the coin weapons to unlock the empyrian weapon skills.

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Originally Posted by Tanama

The only reason the DMG on that updated Almace is lower than Excalibur and Burtgang is because it's delay is lower than the other two.

Personally, I fully support the idea using the coin weapons to unlock the empyrian weapon skills.

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Obviously everyone that does not own a 99 Empy would prefer the possibility of unlocking the WS through coin weapons.
But that would completely eliminate any use for 99 Empyreans and game wise that would be wrong. Of course everyone would prefer something when it's more convenient for them, I'd also be glad to make a fake Ukonvasara and spam Ukko's Fury or Victory Smite with a delve weapon or better yet a mythic! Would that be right? No, it wouldn't, just as much as outclassing all RMEs was with this last update.

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Originally Posted by Gabe

Obviously everyone that does not own a 99 Empy would prefer the possibility of unlocking the WS through coin weapons.
But that would completely eliminate any use for 99 Empyreans and game wise that would be wrong. Of course everyone would prefer something when it's more convenient for them, I'd also be glad to make a fake Ukonvasara and spam Ukko's Fury or Victory Smite with a delve weapon or better yet a mythic! Would that be right? No, it wouldn't, just as much as outclassing all RMEs was with this last update.

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You mean just like Mythic users and their weaponskills? Mythic weaponskills are easier to unlock, is it fair that people who spent as much time / money as you did to make their weapon for only one job has their special weaponskill given to the masses who take the time to unlock it?

I would like to know if they plan on releasing newer more powerful weapons than the delve / RME weapons proposed in the next year or so. If they do, then this changes nothing really and delve weapons will still be the better option unless they upgrade RME again too.

So Matsui san, Do you plan to make these weapons (RME / Delve) the new standard for top of the line weapons? Or will you be adding even more powerful weapons in the near future?

Also, Just an Idea, but I think that the WOE weapons should unlock the weapon skills but not give the aftermath while the 99 RME should unlock both the weapon skill and the aftermath.

Can we get clarification on what level the WoE weapons need to be to unlock the weaponskill? Technically the level 85 versions of the WoW weapons have the weaponskill.

I really like this idea so long as R/E/M weps are equal to top weapons from delve otherwise can still buy a greataxe and do woe greataxe an it will still out do R/E/M

Now. I approve of your macaroni SE. You took my plan. Thumbs up.

I have 2 99 WoE weapons,and one close,therefor i Approve this message..

My Almace thanks you also!!