The Flame Geode Thread...... Again.

Additionally you could make geodes guaranteed drops from hybrid elementals in abyssea, regardless of the day. Baelfyr will always drop 1-2 light geodes and 1-2 fire geodes, for example.

-Edit- Or how about this: If you kill the hybrid elemental with one of the elements it consists of, all the geode drop slots will change to the element you killed them with, for a total of up to 4 of the same geode.

But seriously, this isn't anywhere near as good a solution as just upping fire weather in Ifrit's Cauldron and Lebros Cavern by something like 20-30 percentage points.

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Originally Posted by RAIST

Just a thought....if you had been killing lower level mobs to avoid the Ifritites being in the pool, that might have been 24 flame....that's why I farmed mine mostly in QSC.

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Just a thought, trials do not encompass just the lower lvl mobs you point out here. Doesn't change the fact that rather then amending a piss poor chance to obtain these they are instead making excuses as to why not to. I can enter Nyzul any day of the week, any time of the day, and farm for geode/carbit. I can go work on various other trials in certain zones and know that at least 1-4 times within an hour a weather effect will pop up allowing me to farm the required geode of that path.

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Originally Posted by Kitkat

Just a thought, trials do not encompass just the lower lvl mobs you point out here.

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Huh? Older zones are full of mobs in xp'able range that are not so high as to drop Avatarites. Granted, if you are on something like golems or something, that presents a challenge....but there is a host of "normal" EP mobs to work with by day that won't drop avatarites.

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Originally Posted by Mirage

But seriously, this isn't anywhere near as good a solution as just upping fire weather in Ifrit's Cauldron and Lebros Cavern by something like 20-30 percentage points.

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Have to use dev logic though. Having increased fire weather in Ifrit's Cauldron would throw the game off balance because then people could not go there for the water based trials with the rain it gets more often than fire.

No, but really some common fire weather in a volcano would make sense.

30% fire weather still leaves 70% of the time that you can fill with rain, so I dunno. A 30% fire, 40% nothing, 30% water split might be reasonable.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Howdy,

Sorry I would like to correct what was posted slightly (edited previous post, was my error!). It is not that case that light and dark weather are rarer than fire weather, but it is the case that they are rare weather occurrences as well, yet the prices for those respective geodes are not expensive like that of Flame Geodes.

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If they are still not as rare as fire then what is the point in mentioning them? You would not compare the price of gold to the price of silver to justify the price of gold. It is its own item.

Once again, a reasonable enough amount of weather exists to farm any geodes, except fire.

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Originally Posted by RAIST

Huh? Older zones are full of mobs in xp'able range that are not so high as to drop Avatarites. Granted, if you are on something like golems or something, that presents a challenge....but there is a host of "normal" EP mobs to work with by day that won't drop avatarites.

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Once again, doesn't negate the fact that you can still force weather in instanced zones that are equally as "rare" or for other paths go to places with weather fairly often to complete trials within a convenience. Are you being argumentative because this might lower the going rate of fire geodes if something is changed? It will still be a highly desired geode, but it will at least give people a better option of farming them in a reasonable sense over having to wait for specific days or just happen to catch a rare fire weather.

I've seen your arguments in the past, and I've countered them in the past also with the same things being said in this topic now. The fact still remains that out of all other geodes/weather occurances, fire geode primarily has to rely on the process of buying rather than farming on ones own because of the rarity of weather and the fact not everyone will have time to work their schedule around to be on when a specific day comes up. Other paths you have the option to go on at any time of the day and choose a location that is known to have a weather of that type often or can force the weather in an instanced zone.

Once again, we are using once again a lot it seems.

You aren't forced to rely on weather, you can do fire day as he said. Just like with weather/day trials, you could do weather(counts as 5 kills; geodes common drop) or day(counts as 1 kill; geodes rarer drop). I've made 3 99 STR magians and it's not a big deal.

For Altana's sake, just make the volcanic zones near-constant fire weather already. It would not just fix the fire trials/geodes problem but it WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE SENSE. Seriously, the existing weather frequencies suggest that areas with RED HOT MOLTEN LAVA aren't any warmer on average than a beach with a town on it (Valkurm/Selbina) and that is just ridiculous.