[Suggestion] Final Fantasy XI - EXP System

They should make a server for all the Abyssea haters to jump to, and then permanently keep them there. Strip them of the Abyssea expansion, strip them of FoV/GoV, and strip them of every expansion post CoP. Then we won't have to read any more topics like this, and they'll be super happy finding other super slow people to play with.

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Originally Posted by Meyi

They should make a server for all the Abyssea haters to jump to, and then permanently keep them there. Strip them of the Abyssea expansion, strip them of FoV/GoV, and strip them of every expansion post CoP. Then we won't have to read any more topics like this, and they'll be super happy finding other super slow people to play with.

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I see. So what you are suggesting, Mein Furor, is to segregate people you don't like based solely on how they choose to live, or in this case, play; strip them of equality and force them to exist outside of your perfect world. Brilliant strategy, Hitler.

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Originally Posted by Rewyen

I see. So what you are suggesting, Mein Furor, is to segregate people you don't like based solely on how they choose to live, or in this case, play; strip them of equality and force them to exist outside of your perfect world. Brilliant strategy, Hitler.

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Only in this case, those dummies would be leaving voluntarily, not being forced by angry military personnel.

I really don't even know why people keep making these complaints. The ability to make a traditional 6 man xp party has never been removed.

It functions in the exact same way as before:
Stand around in town with your flag up for six hours, and get zero invites. -->
Then fall asleep, and wake up to see that someone sent you an invite right after you fell asleep. -->
Get frustrated, and decide to start your own party. -->
Spend six hours trying to find a healer and or a tank. -->
Fall asleep.

Nothing has changed. People have simply forgotten that it sucked before abyssea just like it does now. Before you couldn't find people to level with because leveling was slow, tedious, and boring. Now there are people leveling, but they don't want to do it in 6 man parties. Same outcome either way.

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Originally Posted by Rewyen

I see. So what you are suggesting, Mein Furor, is to segregate people you don't like based solely on how they choose to live, or in this case, play; strip them of equality and force them to exist outside of your perfect world. Brilliant strategy, Hitler.

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Pardon me. Noone is Forcing people into Abyssea to exp, its their own choice if they want to exp in Abyssea or the Traditional way. Now tell me: If People are really so unhappy about Abyssea exp, why is it then that you "traditional" people cant get a "Traditional" PT together?

For me its clear that People make their choices. And they choose what they like the most, so stop whining about it. The Mistake lies not within Abyssea, the mistake lies on the "Traditional" People that felt that something was taken away from them, when infact just different other options were added for people to pic up. Do you blame the other people for makeing their own choices on how they want to spend THEIR time in the game how THEY want?

the problems with the OP's suggestion are manifold. But 1st, if you don't like the Abby XP system, simply don't go there. My last 2 jobs I took to 99 I solo'd to 75 because parties were not to be found and I refused to be a level 99 with level 32 skills, if that. FoV/GoV make XP outside Aby almost in the same league as what you get just key whoring in an Aby ops burn, but still allow the meaningful accumulation of skill that Aby does not. They also give you a variety of locations/prey to play in/with. Regardless, no need for an "off" switch.

If you really want to grind, just fire up the NPC in the appropriate mode and go spam books. Keep a seek flag up, and put in your comment "No Abyssea, old-school only". Granted, morons can't read so you'll still get inappropriate invites but it is a good way to identify idiots to add to your /blist. You may be surprised how many invites you get, you're not the only one that prefers that option, despite the tone of most of the responders on here.

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Originally Posted by Rewyen

I see. So what you are suggesting, Mein Furor, is to segregate people you don't like based solely on how they choose to live, or in this case, play; strip them of equality and force them to exist outside of your perfect world. Brilliant strategy, Hitler.

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I'm glad you get it. It'd make finding people with a similar mindset a lot easier to play with, and would result in less topics such as this one sprouting up. If people want to play in oldschool six man parties, then go for it! But every single time I hear people bring up the topic they start complaining about how hard it is to find like minded players to make parties with. So, if everyone was on the same server, they could just /sea all and find everyone else who was down for the same party style.

Oh, and they'd have to remove Level Sync too. That results in bad skills (which is another common complaint).

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

Only in this case, those dummies would be leaving voluntarily, not being forced by angry military personnel.

I really don't even know why people keep making these complaints. The ability to make a traditional 6 man xp party has never been removed.

It functions in the exact same way as before:
Stand around in town with your flag up for six hours, and get zero invites. -->
Then fall asleep, and wake up to see that someone sent you an invite right after you fell asleep. -->
Get frustrated, and decide to start your own party. -->
Spend six hours trying to find a healer and or a tank. -->
Fall asleep.

Nothing has changed. People have simply forgotten that it sucked before abyssea just like it does now. Before you couldn't find people to level with because leveling was slow, tedious, and boring. Now there are people leveling, but they don't want to do it in 6 man parties. Same outcome either way.

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This is 100% true. Thanks Frank. :)

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Originally Posted by Damane

If People are really so unhappy about Abyssea exp, why is it then that you "traditional" people cant get a "Traditional" PT together?

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I never said I was "traditional." I hated putting my flag up, but I know that the first time I hit 75, I knew how to perform my job and wasn't 40 levels under capped. I also wasn't prone to acting like a jackass. I don't care how people get their exp, but the old way did have one thing Abyssea doesn't: camaraderie. I honestly don't think it's the old party grinding people miss, I think it's making new friends and not feeling like they are a poor kid that wandering into a country club by accident. Face facts- Abyssea has made this game full of assholes. Not saying everyone is, but anyone who has played more than two years can certainly take a moment and look back and realize that while EXP might fall off of trees now, the world has become unbalanced and is full of cliques.

Think back to the days before ToAU. If you were leveling a new job outside one of the cities and were getting beat up, a passing mage would swoop in and rescue you, cheer you on, toss a protect and shell, make chit chat and probably send you a friend request and tell you to call on them if you ever needed help. But now? I could drop dead in front of the official Vana'Diel Society of White Mages and not one of them would so much as turn around, and if one of them did, it would be to run over my corpse and stare for a minute before teleporting.

But hey, if that's how people want to play, fine. It's really sad because I would probably be the first person to jump in and help one of them, even if they were a complete ass here on the forum and I know that feeling is probably not even mutual, and that's the problem.

Some people back then still didn't know how to play their jobs at level 75 with the old system. At least with the current exp system, others don't have to suffer(as badly) as a result of their incompetence.

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Originally Posted by Disifer

Week? Try a day.....

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While true in a day some of us actually have a life and a job you know, LOL

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Originally Posted by Ravenmore

Really what was so challenging about auto target WS rinse repeat. Wait I know you one of those that think time = challenge when the real challenge was not passing out. Or refreshing the search hoping to claim the very rare NMs know as brd, rdms.

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auto target, ws, rinse repeat? wtf kind of people you play with because that sound like somebody who dies alot. LOL