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Originally Posted by Dale

That was an evasive reply. Let me try again :)

How much does your monk hit a Nm turtle or elemental for?

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Hell if I know. Which turtle/Elemental NM? Chukwa? Lacovie? Heroes of Abyssea VNMs? Adamantoise? They're not all the same. Pick one.

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Originally Posted by Dale

That was an evasive reply. Let me try again :)

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GG can't evade to save his life.

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Originally Posted by Avarice

GG can't evade to save his life.

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:( Oh yeah, well well, according to the PLD forums your job sucks and you can't keep hate off me. So there!

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Hell if I know. Which turtle/Elemental NM? Chukwa? Lacovie? Heroes of Abyssea VNMs? Adamantoise? They're not all the same. Pick one.

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ok. Chukwa then. how much does your monk hit him for?

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Originally Posted by Dale

ok. Chukwa then. how much does your monk hit him for?

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idk, 150-200/punch with 2k-3k VSmite? Even if you picked Lacovie the numbers wouldn't be too different. I easily hit 5k-6k average VSmites on normal NMs and IT mobs.

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Originally Posted by Dale

ok. Chukwa then. how much does your monk hit him for?

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Putting aside that Monk is already among the top 3 DDs in game at the moment, he has Verethragna, so his numbers on most NMs are going to be in the 3000-5000+'s, even on Chukwa or Lacovie (who really aren't as "defenseful" as you'd think), whereas regular Monks with their Ascetic's Fury will probably be doing about half of that if lucky.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

idk, 150-200/punch with 2k-3k VSmite? Even if you picked Lacovie the numbers wouldn't be too different. I easily hit 5k-6k average VSmites on normal NMs and IT mobs.

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really, monks can hit it that hard? is that with or without atma. And do you hit elementals for that same kind of damage?

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Originally Posted by Dale

really, monks can hit it that hard? is that with or without atma. And do you hit elementals for that same kind of damage?

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Obviously it's with Atma since we're inside Abyssea and NMs are scaled up. I can hit 5k Smites outside Abyssea too with AF3+2 body/Impetus =/. And yes, I hit elementals and avatars and such for about the same, if not more, damage. Those are a lot easier to hit since they typically just have -50% PDT instead of high defense.

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Originally Posted by Avarice

Putting aside that Monk is already among the top 3 DDs in game at the moment, he has Verethragna, so his numbers on most NMs are going to be in the 3000-5000+'s, even on Chukwa or Lacovie (who really aren't as "defenseful" as you'd think), whereas regular Monks with their Ascetic's Fury will probably be doing about half of that if lucky.

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And how do you know how "defenseful" (i don't know why you said that in quotes, i never used such a word) i think they are?

I was just pulling mobs off the top of my head that had high defense. Stop trying to be so condescending.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Obviously it's with Atma since we're inside Abyssea and NMs are scaled up. I can hit 5k Smites outside Abyssea too with AF3+2 body/Impetus =/. And yes, I hit elementals and avatars and such for about the same, if not more, damage. Those are a lot easier to hit since they typically just have -50% PDT instead of high defense.

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How much do you hit them without Atma?

Or an elemental let's say not inside abyssea.