Haste and You... A guide to the misinformed.

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

I'm normally not an ass to people but when someone takes their time to write up a guide about the most important melee stat in the game, clearing its misconceptions and clearly explaining its use to players who perhaps were not convinced before and then you come in with the whole "you don't need haste, hitting harder > hitting faster, opinions > facts" view, I have to say something.

This is a guide thread - an informative thread. Everybody decides at what level they want to play (for instance, I don't play WAR even though it's technically the strongest DD - but I don't go around telling everybody that WAR being strong is just an opinion). If you don't want to swap gear, that's entirely up to you. If you never want to weaponskill, that's entirely up to you. Just don't advocate such styles of play in an informative thread.

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Why not? Why can't I advocate other styles of play in an informative thread? This all started because the original poster said I was naive. I wouldn't be partially trolling/defending my style of game play otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

I'm not really sure what I'm wrong about. Choosing to not gear swap is my own personal game choice. It doesn't even make me a bad player. And it's not like I don't wear any haste at all. I just balance it out with other gear that has strong stats in other things so I don't have to gear swap. Some of you totally missed my sarcasm earlier, which made me bust out laughing. So, it's whatever I guess.

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It does, in fact make you a bad player to advocate a play style that is not efficient. Especially in a thread about a play style that is.

Also, I don't think it was us that missed the sarcasm.

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Originally Posted by Alkalinehoe

It really does.

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No, it doesn't. I may not be the absolute best player in the game, but I'm not a bad player. At all. None of you on this thread even play with me on the game to even make that call. So all of you who say I'm a bad player just because I'm not a haste whore can take a flying leap off a short pier for all I care.

Every single player across every single server who swaps gear has a decent chance of being a better DD so it depends how you define bad.

I've been a main tank in many incarnations throughout my time playing the game and while being the focus of healer attention have gear swapped extensively. I have never to my recollection died as a result. I've lost a handful of hastes and a handful of cures but that's about it - I've never died from it (again to my recollection) and it improved my efficiency tremendously.

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

No, it doesn't. I may not be the absolute best player in the game, but I'm not a bad player. At all. None of you on this thread even play with me on the game to even make that call. So all of you who say I'm a bad player just because I'm not a haste whore can take a flying leap off a short pier for all I care.

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We'd be able to leap off the pier faster than you. We have haste.

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

Why not? Why can't I advocate other styles of play in an informative thread? This all started because the original poster said I was naive. I wouldn't be partially trolling/defending my style of game play otherwise.

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Because your "style" of play is intentionally gimp. it does not even attempt to perform at an acceptable standard.

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

No, it doesn't. I may not be the absolute best player in the game, but I'm not a bad player. At all. None of you on this thread even play with me on the game to even make that call. So all of you who say I'm a bad player just because I'm not a haste whore can take a flying leap off a short pier for all I care.

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If you're not gear swapping, then you're going to be miles behind someone who does and that makes a bad player.

:( I feel sorry for the OP. The thread is dedicated to the thread's biggest critic. It even has their name right there in the title.

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Originally Posted by Cream_Soda

Well, you're kinda right.

"bad" is subjective. So to you, you may not be a bad player.

To the majority, however, you're not going to find agreeing opinions.

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Exactly... not going to find agreeing opinions. And equally, several of you saying I'm a bad player is also subjective and I might add BASELESS since nobody on this thread so far plays with me to have any observations to back up that opinion.

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Originally Posted by Naturebeckles

No, it doesn't. I may not be the absolute best player in the game, but I'm not a bad player.

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You can't possibly be doing more than 1/4th the damage of a decent dd based on what i've read so far. Personally i would define that as bad.