On Artifact Armor.

I mean more of a set like AF3, how people can wear it as a whole set. But like I said, beating a dead horse. They'll do what they do.

Hopefully, like I said previously, a member of the Dev team will clarify what will happen.

As a full set, it will either be better than something or it won't be. There is no "Alternative TP set". It's better, or it's worse. Adding stats that don't influence the final outcome has a net effect of 0.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

How in the world do you come to the conclusion that the difficulty to obtain AF1 is even close to Homam, AF2, Nyzul, or Salvage gear and therefore deserving of the same treatment?

A toddler could get 5/5 AF1 in a few hours

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And homam or af2 is hard to acquire? Ask yourself why did they upgrade af1 to af1+1 in the first place, if what you said was true. It's easy to get all of these gear sets, granted some are more time consuming than others, but getting af1+1 requires a good amount of time as well, more than it does since af2 rains from the sky in dynamis. The only difficulty in getting af2 is there is a randomness about the drops, but theres also a randomness to the af1+1 items also.

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Originally Posted by MakkotoParinne

It's more of a matter of perspective. At that time, without higher level help (read: not level 70+ when you did your AF1), the quests were rather vague and difficult (read: Wiki hasn't been around forever).

I don't think anyone said anything about the difficulty of obtaining AF1. Most armor sets aren't difficult to obtain, they are more of a grind-with-no-success thing unless someone isn't doing their job properly. At least, that's my experience on the matter.

Upgrading it would be consistant, like they are upgrading every other set of old gear.

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Thank you, that's my point I been stressing. Consistency.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

But, you're right, as long as they're upgrading all of that nice, endgame level 75 armor, they may as well upgrade the level 50 armor while they're at it too. Gee, wouldn't it be nice if they augmented our level 30 RSE too? I think that'd be swell. They may as well be consistent. 75-52 is only 23 levels, and 52-30 is 22 levels! There's precedent, see!?

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Again, another person not looking at the bigger picture. The gear IS NOT LEVEL 50, it's the same level as af2/af2+1, af1+1 is what the highest current form of af1 there is, the current level to equip af1+1 is 70+. we are going forward, not backwards.

P.S. lol at your RSE remark, it's obviuos you'll say anything just to trash a topic you don't approve.

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Originally Posted by hiko

because
1)homam, af2, nyzul salvage sky gear were "end game" gears and AF1 were not
2) AF1 already got upgraded

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AF2 got an upgrade as well
AF1 gets their current +1 from an endgame event, limbus, so whats your point?

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Originally Posted by Seriha

Do you use any +1'd gear from Limbus? If so, where's the violent rage about SE using an upgrade system for content a couple years down the line? Strangely enough, Limbus was in no way related to their base piece's original acquisition methods... Curious precedent, that.

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Thf feet, whm hands, blu body, smn legs, nin body, there's two macros peices and three possible full time full time peices, depending on your gear set, right off the top of my head. Just because the content came out in it's orginal fashion, didn't stop the DEV from saying that it was good enough to warrant it's upgrade in Limbus to AF1+1, to be on the same level with relic and relic+1. I like serious debates, but some of these posts are amazingly lacking in logic, and people say anything just because they refuse to back down from what they said earlier, even when the evidence is out there that proves their point is mute.

GOOD GOD QUINTUPLE POST

STOP. JUST STOP.

Square Enix should just make: "All the time melee/TP/DMG Armor set."

Quest: What the hell are you doing!? "Hey now that Quest name is all that I could think of, On short notice"

You gotta collect this:
Artifact: Fighter's Armor +1 Set
Relic: Warrior's Armor +2 Set
Empyrean: Ravager's Armor +2 Set

Just using the WAR Job as a metaphor. You just freed up 10 inventory spaces also you don't have to run back and fourth to the Porter-Moogle!!! Also I'm sure Lv.99 will bring more weapon skills, abilities etc... This is just an "Rough" idea of what one set could look like.

Edit: Just think how many macro's it would free up for those Abilities and useful things like items and not just gear swaps, If you put all that time into getting all those Sets and having those Stats, Whats really the point in gear swapping. The "Final set" would incorporate all those stats in to "one set!" Now that would be the best reward in the game I think!

I still say that AF should be an ingredient in the new relic.