So i leeched my job to 90 in abyssea

So anyone with half an ounce skill would have at least one full set of AF3+2 by now?

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

Best enfeebling legs or am I missing something? Granted you don't have to do much of that.

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So? that extra skill is useless esp on a level 75 base game, 377 or w/e i totled without them is plenty.
I can also say the +1>+2 is stupid. I think having 4 gear haste of +1>+2 is also dumb that the effect is added to magic haste, so byakko may be better in some sitatuion

Relic is macro useful more then 90% useless

and I want to know why some parts/jobs get full time emp +2 others are macro and others are useless, thats imbalance right there.

what happened to trying to compress gear to help inventory space?

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

I just love how no one has pointed out that he made a jab at Raen "Only having one sword", when anyone who's even SEEN an Empyrean DD on FFXIAH knows that all Empyrean Weapons show up as blank slots. He's main-handing an Almace, you Trog.

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Is "Trog" some word you like to call people that you are trying to get to catch on, or do other people actually use that word?
You are truly dense. I was making a point at his logical fallacy of attacking me by the gear I had on at the time FFXIAH scanned me. Obviously (to those of us who earned our jobs) you can't even equip a sub-weapon without a main one equipped. Didn't you know that?

No, I don't say "Oh let me get all my pimp gear out of storage and mule some other stuff to make room and go kill an easy NM by pet swapping (meaning I don't need heavy DD gear, not that you'd know) JUST IN CASE some noobs on a forum spot it and try to use my gear to dismiss my accusation that people who can't level their jobs to 90 shouldn't be 90".

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Originally Posted by Tenshibaby

Yet this made it to the top of your FFXIAH page (not that most of it wasn't available in your character info:
Maat: 03/06/07; 21:10PM. 1/2. ~ 75 Dark Knight - 27/07/07 ~ 75 Paladin - 13/01/08 ~ 75 Thief - 22/06/08 ~ 75 Red Mage - 28/02/09 ~ 75 Dragoon - 12/08/09 ~ Full Homam - 21/12/2008 ~ Mithra ass = pageviews!

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The amount of people that try to use that to troll me makes it worth leaving it up.

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You don't see me throwing around my having gear, but I can tell you this: if you summed up all my gear and what it takes to get that, and did the same for your gear, you'd exit quietly and suddenly from this thread.

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How about useful gear?

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As for gear swapping, it's really not a redeeming quality of the game. I do use it (on BST it is almost required, not that you'd know).

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Ya, I don't have a job levelled so I have no idea how to gear it obviously.

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Basically you guys have summed it up like all blowhards: gear = skill and following the trend = being the best job you can be. I don't use my gear to back up my skill, but I certainly could. Don't be fooled by what is there on FFXIAH. I'd put the skill of someone who had Salvage or Abjuration gear in 2009 against someone who has full AF3+2 today. The Abyssea NM system is a joke, and not indicative of skill IN THE SLIGHTEST.

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So, skilful player, where is your empyrean armour?

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You are truly dense. I was making a point at his logical fallacy of attacking me by the gear I had on at the time FFXIAH scanned me.

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Wearing random stuff to quickly run out to somewhere = fine, we've all done it.

There is just no reason to own some of the items you do, and that is if I had one job. Since you have so many, I wouldn't even CONSIDER it.

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Originally Posted by Tenshibaby

lol So 80 pieces of relic is no accomplishment, but 2 pieces of AF3+2 is. I love how desperate some of you are to prove your point, and how oblivious you are to how wrong you are.

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I would say 2 emp +2 ( this af3+3? can we use different words? thsi is confusing to me)

I would say 2 emp+2 is more "success" then 80 relic gear, it is more work then waiting for a drop.

unless you actually worked at all those dyna then yeah that is different accomplishment. I will not say one is better then other.

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Originally Posted by Ramsos

What are you talking about? RaenRyong was pointing out that Tenshibaby has no af3+2(emp+2 in your vocab) and only 2 pieces of af3+1(emp+1 in your vocab). Nothing was said about af3+2 being useless or not. He said that most af2(relic in your vocab probably) is useless and that having 80/100 af2 pieces is not an accomplishment(which it isnt, all it proves is you spend way too much time in dynamis).

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sorry i missed the e-peen fight.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

So anyone with half an ounce skill would have at least one full set of AF3+2 by now?

Agreed.

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So having full AF3+2 is indicative of skill, yet Maat's cap means you lack skill, and getting to 90 from below 65 in Abyssea gives the presumption of true prowess at your job?

Is this Wonderland, where up is down and left is right and Greatguardian lives up to his name?

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Originally Posted by Tenshibaby

Is "Trog" some word you like to call people that you are trying to get to catch on, or do other people actually use that word?

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You're the one who said he was only using one sword.~

No, this is a sad and sorry little land where you completely lack any sort of reading comprehension. It's kinda funny, I almost feel bad for you.

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

There is just no reason to own some of the items you do, and that is if I had one job. Since you have so many, I wouldn't even CONSIDER it.

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You can't see why I'd have a Jaeger ring on me? You know it is the best ACC for its level right? You know if I am soloing mid-level jobs, the next best ring is Ecphoria, and even that is only marginally better. Also I am skilling Throwing on my DNC, so I haven't bothered to change it. Sue me. When I get all my jobs out of Jaeger ring level, I'll toss it.

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Originally Posted by SNK

You're the one who said he was only using one sword.~

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Go back and re-read, and try to muster up all the brain cells you can.

Oh boy, a ring useful for 5 levels.

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Originally Posted by Tenshibaby

Go back and re-read, and try to muster up all the brain cells you can.

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By your logic I could mock you only having one weapon equipped.

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Maat's Cap says wut?

Except the only mid level job you have is 39 Cor according to FFXIAH... so why do you still have it.

Well 5 levels soloing and actually leveling my job rather than running around Abyssea in lvl 1 RSE it is actually a VERY good ring, not that you would know.

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Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz

Except the only mid level job you have is cor according to FFXIAH... so why do you still have it.

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Because he's been backed into a corner and knows that he's just either arguing just to troll people or he's really that dumb.

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Originally Posted by Tenshibaby

So having full AF3+2 is indicative of skill, yet Maat's cap means you lack skill, and getting to 90 from below 65 in Abyssea gives the presumption of true prowess at your job?

Is this Wonderland, where up is down and left is right and Greatguardian lives up to his name?

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Maats cap doesnt mean you do or dont have skill, all it means is that you spend a ridiculous amount of time leveling jobs. With af3+2, you at least have to fight monster types harder than collibri. Nothing in abyssea is truly "hard", but 5/5 af3+2 is a bigger accomplishment than useless maats cap and any amount of useless af2 gear.

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Originally Posted by SNK

Maat's Cap says wut?

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The "by your logic" is a very, very important component of the sentence. Guess you couldn't muster up enough cells.

Who is running around in level 1 RSE? No one who doesn't suck, just in your imagination.

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Originally Posted by Tenshibaby

The "by your logic" is a very, very important component of the sentence. Guess you couldn't muster up enough cells.

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I'm just pretty much following your own selective logic which pretty much amounts to nothing. Maat's Cap isn't a sign of skill, it's a sign of you spent a ton of time leveling a lot of jobs. But hey you can't be wrong even tho everyone here has told you otherwise.

Right?

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Originally Posted by Ramsos

Maats cap doesnt mean you do or dont have skill, all it means is that you spend a ridiculous amount of time leveling jobs. With af3+2, you at least have to fight monster types harder than collibri. Nothing in abyssea is truly "hard", but 5/5 af3+2 is a bigger accomplishment than useless maats cap and any amount of useless af2 gear.

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I could have 5 sets of full A3+2 in less time than you could get Maat's cap. I could have the other 15 full sets in less time than you could get 80 pieces of relic gear. Also, I never said that Maat's proves skill, but all you guys have done is to use it to somehow call my skill into question, which is just STUPID. "Oh he has Maat's cap... he must not be good at any job. But we have AF3+2, which means killing a mob harder than a colibri! We must be good!"

I don't really care for Abyssea, not just the lack of skill required to advance in it, but the whole "easy mode" aspect that has rendered non-Abyssa activities all but pointless. Is it any question I wouldn't be obsessed with AF3+2?

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Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz

Who is running around in level 1 RSE? No one who doesn't suck, just in your imagination.

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Lots of leeches. Therefore, you agree with me that leeches suck. And SNK likes to pretend nobody has agreed with me!

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Originally Posted by Tenshibaby

I don't really care for Abyssea, not just the lack of skill required to advance in it, but the whole "easy mode" aspect that has rendered non-Abyssa activities all but pointless. Is it any question I wouldn't be obsessed with AF3+2?

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Even with decent Atmas some shit in Abyessa can still kick your ass if you get stupid. Case in point watching an 18 man ally wipe to Sedna which my own static took down with 5.

And there's no pretending at all. The last several pages is you make baseless claims with nothing to back them up along with you trying to say how awesome your RDM several pages earlier along with before that you saying anyone who leeched a job to 90 in abyessa has no skill whatsoever which is dumb in itself.

It comes down the the player behind the character and the sooner you realize that, the sooner you can get off the highhorse you're sitting on.

Silly people I swear...

I agree that anyone who can't figure out this game prior to leeching sucks, I don't agree with you because you somehow believe the game doesn't work by mathematical formulas that have been tried and tested years ago and that somehow leeching means someone can't look up how to play a job. Most DD/Mage jobs are not so completely foreign someone who has played one can't figure out/ask questions about another and do well at it.

Hell some are so easy you can figure out how to DD from meleeing on a mage job...

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Originally Posted by Tenshibaby

I could have 5 sets of full A3+2 in less time than you could get Maat's cap. I could have the other 15 full sets in less time than you could get 80 pieces of relic gear. Also, I never said that Maat's proves skill, but all you guys have done is to use it to somehow call my skill into question, which is just STUPID. "Oh he has Maat's cap... he must not be good at any job. But we have AF3+2, which means killing a mob harder than a colibri! We must be good!"

I don't really care for Abyssea, not just the lack of skill required to advance in it, but the whole "easy mode" aspect that has rendered non-Abyssa activities all but pointless. Is it any question I wouldn't be obsessed with AF3+2?

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You said earlier that the only job you gearswap on is bst, that calls your lack of skill into question far more than any lack of af3+2 gear.

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Originally Posted by Ramsos

You said earlier that the only job you gearswap on is bst, that calls your lack of skill into question far more than any lack of af3+2 gear.

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Careful now dude. If you keep this up you're going to back him into a corner he can't charm himself out of.

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Originally Posted by SNK

you make baseless claims with nothing to back them up along with you trying to say how awesome your RDM several pages earlier along with before that you saying anyone who leeched a job to 90 in abyessa has no skill whatsoever which is dumb in itself.

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Another reading comprehension fail. Can I subscribe to your posts?

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Originally Posted by Tenshibaby

Another reading comprehension fail. Can I subscribe to your posts?

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If it helps you suck less by means. ^-^

Tenshibaby, you quite possibly have the worst reading comprehension skills I have yet encountered on this board.

Haste is good. Gear swapping is good.

You can work yourself to being a good player from those two points.

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Originally Posted by Ramsos

You said earlier that the only job you gearswap on is bst,

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I did? Wow... Your lack of reading comprehension is pretty sorry too. Aren't you one of the ones who tries to argue about researching, etc? How can you research with such poor reading comprehension? I said I use swapping macros, and that it is almost required on BST. I DID NOT say I only use it on BST. No wonder you need things spoon-fed to you.

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Originally Posted by HFX7686

Tenshibaby, you quite possibly have the worst reading comprehension skills I have yet encountered on this board.

Haste is good. Gear swapping is good.

You can work yourself to being a good player from those two points.

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See? Set the bar really low and you can sail over it. This is your motto, apparently, and you have YET to show an example of where my reading comprehension failed. Perhaps it is your own that has failed and led you to this erroneous conclusion?

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Originally Posted by Tenshibaby

As for gear swapping, it's really not a redeeming quality of the game. I do use it (on BST it is almost required, not that you'd know).

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If I read this wrong, then fine I am wrong. But after seeing your ffxiah account where you are actually wearing maats cap(among other questionable gear choices), I stand by my judgement that you do not gearswap.

it's okay guys, no matter how much I suck I HAVE RELIC GEAR

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Originally Posted by Ramsos

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You re-read that and still come to the conclusion that I am saying I only use it on BST?
Epic fail.

Guys we can stop now. I think I finally understand it.

Its clear that if you don't kill Crabs, Pugils, Crawlers, or Colibri for 90 levels, You will always suck at your job no matter what. Either you get 5kexp/hr, Or you're a terrible player. Anything higher than 5k is Witchcraft the lowers your I.Q

"Yeah I use this so people don't troll me: Maat: 03/06/07; 21:10PM. 1/2. ~ 75 Dark Knight - 27/07/07 ~ 75 Paladin - 13/01/08 ~ 75 Thief - 22/06/08 ~ 75 Red Mage - 28/02/09 ~ 75 Dragoon - 12/08/09 ~ Full Homam - 21/12/2008 ~ "

"Yeah, that's right. When people say I suck, I just smile and send them a link to my FFXIAH page. When they see the precise times and dates I beat Maat and hit 75, they're all like 'Whoah! I guess he doesn't suck, despite how he plays!' Then I accuse other people of being stuck in the past..."

Face it: you guys are dreaming if you think your skills hold up after leeching in Abyssea. By your logic, I see you wouldn't know skill if it slapped you upside the head. Now go ahead and blah blah blah about how you can't understand posts yet are awesome at jobs because you read a few forum posts on it. I'm done wasting my time on you, and it is depressing seeing more evidence of the deterioration of the game, and seeing it cheered on by more people who think they deserve their levels AND DON'T.

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

Guys we can stop now. I think I finally understand it.

Its clear that if you don't kill Crabs, Pugils, Crawlers, or Colibri for 90 levels, You will always suck at your job no matter what. Either you get 5kexp/hr, Or you're a terrible player. Anything higher than 5k is Witchcraft the lowers your I.Q

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Finally you understand.

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Originally Posted by Tenshibaby

You re-read that and still come to the conclusion that I am saying I only use it on BST?
Epic fail.

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Look at the gear you are wearing on your ffxiah profile page. If you can tell me with a straight face that there is nothing wrong with the majority of what you are wearing, you are a terrible player and probably fulltime that garbage.

Your ability to get gear in this game is a test of patience more than anything. Some things require help and you thank the people for it.

I am not sure how to actually gauge skill then actually playing with the person or see them in action

I also don't understand how someone knew this other guy only got 2 emp gear +2

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Originally Posted by Tenshibaby

"Yeah I use this so people don't troll me: Maat: 03/06/07; 21:10PM. 1/2. ~ 75 Dark Knight - 27/07/07 ~ 75 Paladin - 13/01/08 ~ 75 Thief - 22/06/08 ~ 75 Red Mage - 28/02/09 ~ 75 Dragoon - 12/08/09 ~ Full Homam - 21/12/2008 ~ "

"Yeah, that's right. When people say I suck, I just smile and send them a link to my FFXIAH page. When they see the precise times and dates I beat Maat and hit 75, they're all like 'Whoah! I guess he doesn't suck, despite how he plays!' Then I accuse other people of being stuck in the past..."

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And this is why I keep that somewhat nooby thingy in my ffxiah thing. It's amusing watching retarded people try to troll me with it.

And you are stupidly retarded. One of the worst players I have ever known. You disgrace to a Maat's Cap.