The test server is more fun than the real game.

Released June 21st, was off a bit.

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Released June 21st, was off a bit.

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Knew it was sometime after i left :(

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Because you are supposed to get them right when it is introduced. Abyssea is hard. Also gimps always have excuses.

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Well, ok then, do you have:
Glanzfaust
Murgleis
Kenkonken

Since non-gimps should have had these since no later than 2009, yes? I don't want to hear any excuses of any kind, whether the "empyrean is better" is moot, given the whole logic you're supposed to complete shit when they're introduced.

Otherwise, I think I see why a lot of people dislike you, and it's definitely not because you're "better than everyone else".

Is there anything further to test regarding DEX and critical hit rate?

There was a really good point somewhere in this post where people complain about grinding for skills. SE's old system of level_up_rarely_and_spend_your_xp'ing_days_getting_your_skillups worked out. You cap your stuff just about every time you leveled.

Now that everyone just skyrockets to 90+ you have hundreds of skill levels to get to close that gap. Especially if you leech your way to 90. SE's method of GoV and items to help you gain skill levels faster was a great way to <Remedy> this.
For those of you who leech up to 90. Yes, many of them "don't know how to play their job." Some find enlightenment through the hours of grinding skill levels and learn the ins and outs. Others just give up and complain on the forums.

Stating the obvious: people will play their own way and in their own pace, no matter how badly it disagrees or holds people back.

Hey guys I heard Alla doesn't have trolls

Edit: I cleaved BLU to 90 a couple weeks ago, I'm missing 2-3 pieces of optimal gear and 15 or so lower level physical spells. I'm no Draylo, but I'd venture to say I can play the job pretty well. Is it the cleave or the player?

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Hey guys I heard Alla doesn't have trolls

Edit: I cleaved BLU to 90 a couple weeks ago, I'm missing 2-3 pieces of optimal gear and 15 or so lower level physical spells. I'm no Draylo, but I'd venture to say I can play the job pretty well. Is it the cleave or the player?

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Im in the same situation, i have 12 lvl90s, 7 of those burned thanks to abyssea..im so bad guys

Guys and gals, please remeber that not everyone's ability is equal even if given the same stuff to start out with. The orginal poster is person, please keep that in mind and keep the name calling down, reguardless if he has played long time and in your opinion he should be more advanced. Nobody likes to be bullied or picked on. Everyone has their own pace and skill.

However, some of what is said is true and perhaps you (orginal poster) can consider it. While its true ls does help alot, nowadays a small 3-5 man static or duo can get you pretty far. As for gil, it is hard to obtainif you dont work at it. Now I npc abyssea gear and augmented weapons from dom ops, as well as sell currency and I'm considering selling a few goading belts on my server the next time I do an empyrean static (obviously theres like 4 weapons in that zone so I'm looking at h2h since I really want relic gs over empyrean ga, this way i have a weapon for my dark and war) but obviously this poster doesnt have access to that. I also do xp pts or crour pts, perhaps you should spend time in pts getting crour to npc gear later. Theres plenty of gear thats decent and free in abyssea, you just need research it, then /shout or buddy up. Theres a few nm that drop seals and pops for other nm that sell for around 100k. Perhaps you can farm them and ask for the pops that drop off the nm in exchange for your help and no seals. The buffalo nm in uleguerand range (A) drops a hide that sells well, and its a fairly easy nm to kill, just has alot of hp or something. The hide it drops is needed for the nm tiger that drops much wanted body +1 that is constantly spammed. Do this for a few days and theres your nin scroll. This game takes time and devotion, but there are many ways to the same goal.

Perhaps you can do the bcnm that drops the utsusemi: ni scroll that you need. I'm sure you have beastman seals since you'd been on since 2004.

Pup and jobs like nin are expensive, maybe SE can address this. I know I said in the pup forum that I was against the idea of making some attachments easier to get because i felt the bcnm "captain" was easily trio'd, but some old content is extremly difficult to obtain without support. I take it back because I see your point and I'd like to see more pups.

That said, like was suggested earlier, get a few friends with common goals and interests or a social ls that might help you. If you can find a empyrean weapon ls, start an empyrean weapon or at least get the +2 that drops from the empyrean weapons mobs that your ls kills. At that point most have a boat load of +2 and you should find it easier to obtain those with that type of static or ls.

I admit, those who succeed in this game have to be dedicated or hungry. I've done tons of /shouts to get what I want or made friends and low manned stuff, because like you sometimes linkshells arent for me.

Finally, if all else fails, move to Bismarck and send Amaday a /tell. I'll get you into my ls or a ls that i know is good for you. This goes for ANYBODY who is not a mooch and just wants a good, fun, clean ls to socialize and enjoy the game. When 99 hits and new endgame emerges we will most likely be at the forefront of the server and host events then. Until then, we are a social ls that helps each other out. By "not a mooch", I meant please dont ask our memebrs to assist 24/7, as most of us like to get stuff done for ourselves and in our down time help other ls memebrs that contribute and are willing to help others. Most our users have 1 or more empyrean weapons, and we dont currently have set hours for events because most of us have done everything under the sun so we enjoy casual game play and working on more empyreans or relics or gear in our own time. By casual gameplay I mean we dont have set times for events, we just do what we want, when we want. Because most of us have personal statics or dual box the majority of what we want to accomplish, we dont do schedualed events.

I personally dual box my stuff or roll with 1-3 others, as do alot of our members, but we do get together and do stuff/help others. We are gear driven, but like I said we dont host events we just randomly get together and do stuff or do stuff on our own. Many ls memebrs would be willing to give you hand occasionally, provided that you at least attempt the things you need help with on your own if you can and you farm pops for what it is that you want to kill.

I enjoy helping those who appreciate my help, and lending a hand to new and returning players occassionally in my down time. If SE wants to pay me, I'd be glad to help out alot more and play this game as a full time job helping people and hosting parties 40+ hrs a week for new players, lol. As it stands i might spend 5hrs a week lending a hand and 30hrs doing my own thing. If offered a job by SE to play the game and make it user friendly for new comers, I'd play more and quit my job tomorrow, lol. I think everyone should occasionally take time out and lend a hand to our brothers and sisters in vanadiel.

I would suggest the empyrean/abyssea ls before my own though, if you need the gear asap since like I said we mostly solo or duo our stuff. While we do team-up, a static or event ls may be better for you because of the frequency they spam events. But if events are not your thing, then a social ls is best. Either way it sounds like you need more people you can count on that share mutual goals, you should start there first and meet people.

If you do come to Bismarck it would be my pleasure to lend a helping hand. Goodluck friend.

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Reason no one does voidwatch like they 'should' is because it's a horrible reward system. It has decent stuff, but quite honestly, compared to what Abyssea offered, it's no secret why VW is done by only a select few.

Thus why the 95 Emp trials will no doubt require 100-180 VW II items.

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you know what i love about this post ... the fact dat mining has already found the next empy path takes 1500 of an item no ones found yet.

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Actually, the Magian Moogles share that information on the test-server. ^^;

Though I can't know where other players get their information; it might be just as you suspect but yeah, more and less of this information is freely available for view on the test-server without any kind of 'reverse engineering' and the requirements may very well be changed before release still.


As for the test-server in general... I don't really find it more fun than the regular game-play but then again, I've been doing similar testing and otherwise helping on different games so it's not exactly all that exciting for me, meaning that the fun of it will die down, especially if that is the only thing it is for you.

It is, after all, not for a joy-ride but for testing and while I am sure they want people to have fun too, it is more than likely not why it is open for us.

I'm not exactly sure of the woes of the subject, as being able to get the items and job levels as well as skill levels up is particularly helpful for testing; it is not how they intend the game to be for you but rather to make it possible for more people to test more things instead of limiting to what they have attained on the regular servers.


The game itself is in kind of a transition period and only when the level limit of 99 will be here, will things settle down a bit though I'm not saying the game is going to be stopping there, of course, but it is a little bit awkward for the time being.


This might be the first thread where I post in without reading each and every post so I'm sorry if I'm repeating something that someone else already has said but seeing the amount of bickering and whatnot...

At least remember to have some fun while you're at it!
Kind Regards,

Abyssea is important, the game has changed and will continue to change. Getting people xp faster has its pro and con. More people that are new might want to stay, i cant see a population increase as bad. True this can lead to more bad players but we all start somewhere. Perhaps a thread for new players would help to direct them towards being better players faster.

I burned a few jobs, before abyssea I never would have considered leveling all jobs (which I am in the slow process of doing and gearing all jobs properly)bedsides my orginal four: whm, blm ,rdm, drk. Those four where it for me. Now my orginal four and blu are very well geared, and I have enough af1/2/3+1/2 for the other jobs I have at 90 (12) that I can bring those jobs to events and be fully functional and then some (i consider them functional if they have less than 3/5 +2 or no empyrean, but 3/5 +1 or more and similar gear and capped weapon/necassary skill. jobs at 90 but lacking in these area are undercontruction and I wont use in a event, farming, or anything until i've soloed it enough at 90 and received the proper gear). This gives me more oppurtunities to help myself and others, and expands my freedom and enjoyment of the game.

With all the updates, mail delivery changes and porter moogles, this game is turning into something great for a wider player base. Yes I enjoy a challenge and I hope the new endgame is nail biting hard, because I like to take risks to recieve my rewards and have people say "wow, nice gear" and feel that I accomplished something. Voidwatch isnt as easy as abyssea but its not too hard either with the right set up. Lets see whats in store to come and I hope for a new AV because thats the kinda mob ff series is know for. rate me down, idc.