Dragoon Manifesto thoughts

Amen to that. And you don't really require Windower for it, though I'm certain it's 100% more convenient. Just have to put several macros next to each other for swapping. At least there's not too many for Wyvern gear; I actually only count six--no wait, seven, I forgot Ostreger's, but that's only 10 HP for 2 more Stoneskin? Meh--pieces to macro in. Technically you could ditch the gloves and still be good with one macro in and out.

Wyvern Perch: 50
Chanoix's Gorget: 50
Lancer's Earring: 20
Wyvern Mail: 65
Ostreger Mitts: 10
Lancer's Pelerine: 30
Drachen Brais +1 : +15%
Homam Gambieras: 50

Clearly the perch is only useful if you are willing to sacrifice whatever tp you have. But even if you nix the perch and the mitts that's still 6 so you'd have to give up the earring to be able to put the ja line in the macro. Luckly with the adjustments you could put the needed wait in there to make sure your wyvern hp procs before the ja goes off as it can take a few seconds for it to update.

So unless I forgot something that's 275 hp plus and then 15% on top of that. 25% bonus if you can get exp which is overall a nice addition.

I think the 15% is based on the baseline HP; I took it as 15% from whatever the current base HP with experience is. So my number's a rough guesstimate; I'm not sure if it comes before or after other HP modifications.

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Originally Posted by Kensagaku

I think the 15% is based on the baseline HP; I took it as 15% from whatever the current base HP with experience is. So my number's a rough guesstimate; I'm not sure if it comes before or after other HP modifications.

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I'm relatively certain that the hp% includes other HP gear just like character hp.

I wouldn't be surprised; I haven't actually looked up information or tested it myself. Thanks for the clarification, I can actually bump those numbers up. :D

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Originally Posted by Ophannus

Spirit Surge is Lancet.

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No, the japanese name for spirit surge is lancet, it does not function as lancet does in any shape or form.

Sounds awesome.
Ive always wonder why DRG was able too use sword xD.

The first appearance of DRG had them using swords, and they also use them prominently in legend of dragoon.

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No, the japanese name for spirit surge is lancet, it does not function as lancet does in any shape or form.

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Neither does Temper.

Also why do you want a crappy 100 dmg HP/MP drain?

I'm glad you're from the future and know the exact numbers.

I think it was a refference to old lancets from previous titles which weren't that strong in general.

The point is there's certain trademark abilities each job should inevitably get, Blue Mages are finally getting White Wind, it's time for us to pick up Lancet which certainly would have value outside Abyssea, instant HP is always useful, and the MP would be sick for drg/caster.

Plus it's another instantaneous damaging ability for a job whose meant to do damage, not receive useless updates (derp wyvern emotes, your wyvern grew bigger!) while WAR gets 1.25x damage and forced crits.

Sure, it won't be enough to keep up with those changes and SAM's ridiculous permanent TP bonus and WS DMG/Acc, etc. etc.

But it's something. Just make sure to cancel the animation into another one so you don't lose out on too many swings.

What DRG really needs is an "Ignore target's defense" trait, or JA.

1) It's unique, not seen before in traits nor abilities.
2) What are spears used for in history? To keep a certain distance(DRG has control over enmity, which pretty much translates into keeping distance) and to pierce through weak points in armor!
3) Increases DRG's utility on highly defensive mobs. DRG is one of the only two-handed DDs that is excluded from the "Attack up" club. DRK has Last Resort and more Attack in gear/traits than anyone, WAR get's Berserk natively (nuff said), and SAM has the freedom to sub WAR (isn't restricted to /SAM like every other two handed DD to deal heavy DPS). DRG essentially has to sub SAM for offensive reasons (Hasso+STP outweighs the benefits of Berserk/DA or Last Resort/Souleater in DPS terms). Also, DRG is the only job that REQUIRES a subjob to access a part of it's main job's capabilities, as in it needs something similar to /RDM for their Wyvern to use Resistant ailment breaths. In fact it doesn't even have to stack with Angon; similarly it could even share the same cooldown.

It doesn't make too much sense to me for one of the reasons for DRG to use swords to be because of a Sony game.

SAM,WAR are super powerful melee because they both get the benefits of SAM and WAR abilities.

SAM/WAR gets meditate hasso seigan third eye sekkanoki berserk warcry aggressor last resort chainbound sengiroki overwhelm double attack zanshin

WAR/SAM gets berserk aggressor double attack warcharge blood rage hasso seigan third eye meditate sekkanoki retaliatior

DRG/SAM gets SAM abilities but loses /WAR abilities like berserk 10% DA which would greatly increase its DPS.

For DRG to compete with WAR and SAM, we'd need some kind of +attack boost JA or a JA haste ability that gives +10% JA HAste and lower like wyvern hp or something. 3min duration 5 min recast