Character name can't be hidden.

Anyone know how the JPs are taking this?

The forums should show your address, real name, and email along with it. [Removed by Moderator according to the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines.]

I have no problem with it. Someone has a problem with what I say on the forums, they can come on the game and talk smack to me.

Seriously, bring it. I'll shoot you down every time. >:3

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Honestly I've heard this silly argument before many times and it comes from people whos opinions aren't worth valuing anyway, anything you post is judged by the content of the post and nothing else (if you frequent a general discussion chat forum, does what anyone posts have no value unless you have pictures and all their irl info?). I've posted for years on many forums and the fact I didn't paste my ingame char name had ZERO influence on what I got out of posting or what others got out of reading it (good or bad). That will continue to be the case.

So you are more than welcome to your opinion just as I am to not care what you think and know full well that not linking my main account to the post will have zero difference to anyone with half a brain, ultimately though I post here because the devs keep an eye on it not for what anyone else thinks.

And they probably won't listen to a word you say because they'll look at your "MNK lv. 4" and think, "gee, this person doesn't really know what they're talking about."
/sarcasm

A post is a post and yes it's judged by the content of the post, not who posts it. But when someone goes through lengths to hide something as harmless as their made-up character name, it makes one question that person's intents, honestly.

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And they probably won't listen to a word you say because they'll look at your "MNK lv. 4" and think, "gee, this person doesn't really know what they're talking about."
/sarcasm

A post is a post and yes it's judged by the content of the post, not who posts it. But when someone goes through lengths to hide something as harmless as their made-up character name, it makes one question that person's intents, honestly.

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As I say the posts are judged by the content of them, it's easy to see if someone knows what they are talking about or not and the value of the post is the post itself. The forum persona you build up from your post history > your piddling name and char level (which in the abyssea age means next to nothing anyway).

You are wrong and the fact that I know you are wrong and have long history of being in this position and it being show to have zero negative impact on anything I post proves this to me.

Let's just agree that I don't care wtf you think and you can gladly do the same, infact feel free to put me and anyone else who does not have a valid fully leveled account on their side bar on ignore, if you truely believe what you post. I'll take a guess you won't which invalidates your whole argument.

Just /ignoring everyone that is level 5 or under. Anyone going to that length to stay anonymous probably doesn't have much intent of having anything decent to say.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

Honestly I've heard this silly argument before many times and it comes from people whos opinions aren't worth valuing anyway, anything you post is judged by the content of the post and nothing else (if you frequent a general discussion chat forum, does what anyone posts have no value unless you have pictures and all their irl info?). I've posted for years on many forums and the fact I didn't paste my ingame char name had ZERO influence on what I got out of posting or what others got out of reading it (good or bad). That will continue to be the case.

So you are more than welcome to your opinion just as I am to not care what you think and know full well that not linking my main account to the post will have zero difference to anyone with half a brain, ultimately though I post here because the devs keep an eye on it not for what anyone else thinks.

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name jinz cerebus but i wont hide behind a mule lol

too hard to resist since u posted a video of urself and then post a mule accnt

yes content should obviously be easily able to determine whether the personknows what they are talking about or not

I think my mule's name is funny. My forum name is my game name, so I actually give more information this way. D:

if i wasnt so cheap i would pay a buck to make a mule called troll even though ..


se gets enough money from me mind u 14 is still free lulz

I don't know what to say about this, not really happy about the change so I put a mule on there.

Remember when people said characters being linked would stop trolling and retarded behaviour on the forum? yeah...the most annoying posters right now have their acc linked properly right there.

Needs more level 1 gnome warlocks imo

SE making character info/server shown is fantastic. Only thing missing was making it be the highest level character on the account. Here's to hoping they rectify that. If people want to join in discussions, add their input, and criticism, etc at least have the sack to show your main character.

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SE making character info/server shown is fantastic. Only thing missing was making it be the highest level character on the account. Here's to hoping they rectify that. If people want to join in discussions, add their input, and criticism, etc at least have the sack to show your main character.

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I actually agree with you now, since the forced character thing these forums have lost a lot of their appeal. Mainly the attitude of many of the posters which have made this place seem a lot dumber and a lot less friendly a place to be a part of (maybe it was always that way, but it shines out a lot more with recent changes to the forum). If they had forced it to be main chars those of us that had a problem with it would of simply quit and been done with them, as it was they ruined the appeal to many but still left an avenue that let us carry on posting.

I intend to use them as little as possible now personally, there are far better forums with far better communities around than this place. The only thing this place has going for it is the eye of the devs and in reality they only listen to the JP forum anyway, regardless how they try to make it appear.

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Originally Posted by Zaknafein

SE making character info/server shown is fantastic. Only thing missing was making it be the highest level character on the account. Here's to hoping they rectify that. If people want to join in discussions, add their input, and criticism, etc at least have the sack to show your main character.

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Thanks to Abyssea you can level a mule to 90 in a day or two so that won't work either.

Of course I would just use one of my gardening accounts which consists of nothing but lvl 1 mules.

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That's exactly what i'm doing and yes why should anything I say on a forum have an impact in my gaming time?

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If you think what you're saying would have a negative impact on your gaming time, then you should probably reconsider saying it, instead of trying to hide who you are. And if you're NOT like this in game, why can't you be like you are in game here? Then it would have a positive impact upon you.

Nice people, or at least people trying to be nice, have nothing to hide.

Why do I have no control over what job it displays in my avatar? If you're going to make use use something at least make it something that works. One fail thing after another this month gd SE get with it.

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

Thanks to Abyssea you can level a mule to 90 in a day or two so that won't work either.

Of course I would just use one of my gardening accounts which consists of nothing but lvl 1 mules.

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Well the fact stands that people who choose to list a mule will not be taken as seriously or respected to a certain degree. 8/10 players listing a mule are doing it because they have talked a big game yet their actual info doesn't nearly stack up to their anonymous forum persona. While I understand that a small percentage of mule lister's are against it strictly for the privacy issue (and if you've been hacked b4 I don't fault you for being overly cautious). However I don't agree with the mule thing being an option. I think if you want to participate on the "official forums" then you should do so as your "official main character."

This would make people think twice about being idiotic anonymous trolls. Or in other cases thinking b4 talking like they know everything there is to know about the subject being discussed. If they still proceeded to do those things anyhow at least players on their server would have that knowledge, and could avoid those people.

Also just to clarify I'm not attacking or talking down to you cause your the original poster. Everything I've seen you contribute to the forum has been intelligent, and non-trollish. However, I do ardently believe you're in the minority of mule users.

I don't understand people's moaning or saying "Everybody is going to pick their mules!"..... No, I'm sorry last I checked I'm damn proud of my lvl 90 BLU called Scuro on Odin. I frankly don't give a damn lol. My only regret with this is that it asks for your 3 primary jobs and yet it only displays 1. I would ask that they display all 3. Why should displaying your in game name, server, and job hinder anyone from posting? If anything I would find it more encouraging so that if your asking for help on something, people can find you and offer such help.

And if the trolls come after you in game.... Well thats what black lists are for. What this does for me personally is it allows me to see what level the person is, and based on that take them seriously or not... If they are lvl 1-30 I can tell you right now my level of seriousness and respect for a post will be drastically lowered for a garbage idea, then it would on a garbage idea coming out of a 90 (which would probably even have less respect then the 1-30). This just gives me a better understanding of a person's perspective =).

P.S
You should come to the realization that if you say something stupid or you are a jerk in general, it will effect you in the long run (In RL you don't go walking around town spitting on people that talk to you, it tends to get your ass beat down.). People will recognize you and you will gain a reputation for being an ass hat. If you would be smart, and try not to bash as much, you might actually get somewhere, to say that you can come onto a forum and smack talk and then hide behind anonimity is cowardly.

And if your really that flustered about posting with your name attached to it, trust me, SE did a good thing by having jerk posters stop posting and leave the forums simply because they don't have the gaul to put their name and reputation to their posts. Honestly if SE can get those of you that are actually drastically worried about your anonymity to leave, we might actually accomplish something around here then having people asking for a pankration update. When I'm an ass on these forums or in game, i want people to know that Scuro, from Odin, 90 BLU is calling them out. And if anyone comes after me in game, I do have black list to fall back on ;-)

Anonymity is a good thing not a bad thing. People are more likely to speak their minds. The internet is the one place you're free to speak the truth without fear of retribution for not paying lip service to bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

Anonymity is a good thing not a bad thing. People are more likely to speak their minds. The internet is the one place you're free to speak the truth without fear of retribution for not paying lip service to bullshit.

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I completely agree. I certainly feel free to speak my mind even with main character information shown. At the end of the day my virtual reality FF character is still pretty anonymous :)

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

There are very few positives and negatives for this move. I too do not understand why they are doing it.

Only that I think after it happens we'll eventually get over it :(

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It's my guess they may be testing to see about linking in game achievements to forum profile; maybe changing how medallions are tallied again. I don't know, and I don't mind.

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Originally Posted by Shyla

Why do I have no control over what job it displays in my avatar? If you're going to make use use something at least make it something that works. One fail thing after another this month gd SE get with it.

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Set every box to the job you want to display, it will then go to one box with that job.

I don't really care either way whether or not my character/server is shown; nor do I particularly understand why job level is shown.

It matters not whether I post from my main or mule; I don't feel like my opinion would vary on the grounds of being harassed (in the loosest sense possible) in-game.

I am, arguably, one of the most scathing, opinionated, generally either loved-or-loathed posters on these forums.

I have never, ever been called out in game for anything I've said on here, or BG, or anywhere. Never. Not once. In fact, the only time someone outside of my linkshell has ever spoken to me about something I said on the forums, the person thanked me for what I had said. I haven't even received any negative FFXIAH comments either (and no, I don't delete any of those), and those can be posted from any server.

So, unless you think you can get more people to hate you more than they hate me, I'm pretty sure harassment will not be an issue for you.

inb4 someone posts negative ffxiah comments now to prove me wrong =P.

My main is gimp cause I came back from 2009 so I use a mule til I get it geared.

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Originally Posted by Bumbeen

My main is gimp cause I came back from 2009 so I use a mule til I get it geared.

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Sort of a lay away plan.

They should really adjust it so only characters lvl 30 or higher can post in the forums would eliminate alot of the ignorant posters and trolls and make the forums alot nicer. I doubt someone will go to the extent of leveling a mule from 1-30 for the ability to post on these forums. Only reason people pick mules is because you can get banned in game for posting inappropriatly on the forums. So i see no reason to not restrict it to lvl 30 characters or higher, make them work for the right to post. Instead of letting them run rampant belittling others for their opinions and generally being rude, they wouldn't act like that in game I don't see why they should be allowed to here.

I imagine the moderators will eventually crack down on the type of misconduct on the forums by the players, and hopefully some people lose their lvl 1 crafting mules with 100 craft skills or nice gear they have on their mules they used as their handle for the official forums when their character gets banned in game, it will teach them a lesson in proper etiquette.

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Originally Posted by Zaknafein

Sort of a lay away plan.

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Haha exactly!

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They should really adjust it so only characters lvl 30 or higher can post in the forums would eliminate alot of the ignorant posters and trolls and make the forums alot nicer. I doubt someone will go to the extent of leveling a mule from 1-30 for the ability to post on these forums. Only reason people pick mules is because you can get banned in game for posting inappropriatly on the forums. So i see no reason to not restrict it to lvl 30 characters or higher, make them work for the right to post. Instead of letting them run rampant belittling others for their opinions and generally being rude, they wouldn't act like that in game I don't see why they should be allowed to here.

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You don't visit here much do you? Almost all the worst posters here show their proper character details, check and see.

As for the level 30 thing, you can get to 30 easily in a day with fov on a mule, or a couple of hours if you have the means. What they should do is force you to show all your characters on an account, that way you can't use a mule!

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Originally Posted by Habiki

They should really adjust it so only characters lvl 30 or higher can post in the forums would eliminate alot of the ignorant posters and trolls and make the forums alot nicer. I doubt someone will go to the extent of leveling a mule from 1-30 for the ability to post on these forums. Only reason people pick mules is because you can get banned in game for posting inappropriatly on the forums. So i see no reason to not restrict it to lvl 30 characters or higher, make them work for the right to post. Instead of letting them run rampant belittling others for their opinions and generally being rude, they wouldn't act like that in game I don't see why they should be allowed to here.

I imagine the moderators will eventually crack down on the type of misconduct on the forums by the players, and hopefully some people lose their lvl 1 crafting mules with 100 craft skills or nice gear they have on their mules they used as their handle for the official forums when their character gets banned in game, it will teach them a lesson in proper etiquette.

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If someone is getting banned ingame for actions on the forum, it will probably be all POL accounts tied to the SE account, not the character linked to the forum profile. Remember, SE was able to ban characters before linking the characters to the forum profile was mandatory.

I'm still bewildered as to why they show job/character levels.... they don't really make any opinion more/less valid because you've a LVL90AWE/SMN.

Guess it's for those who don't link their FFXIAH/Linkshell Community page and want to verify that they do infact have a LVL90AWE/SMN...

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Originally Posted by Runespider

You don't visit here much do you? Almost all the worst posters here show their proper character details, check and see.

As for the level 30 thing, you can get to 30 easily in a day with fov on a mule, or a couple of hours if you have the means. What they should do is force you to show all your characters on an account, that way you can't use a mule!

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Define worst, and point out a few specific examples. As far as I'm concerned, almost all of the absolute worst posters on these boards post anonymously.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Define worst, and point out a few specific examples. As far as I'm concerned, almost all of the absolute worst posters on these boards post anonymously.

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+1

PS: Quotes need to count as ten characters

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Define worst, and point out a few specific examples. As far as I'm concerned, almost all of the absolute worst posters on these boards post anonymously.

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I must say i agree to this. For obvious reason.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Define worst, and point out a few specific examples. As far as I'm concerned, almost all of the absolute worst posters on these boards post anonymously.

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This.

yadayadayada

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Originally Posted by Habiki

They should really adjust it so only characters lvl 30 or higher can post in the forums would eliminate alot of the ignorant posters and trolls and make the forums alot nicer. I doubt someone will go to the extent of leveling a mule from 1-30 for the ability to post on these forums. Only reason people pick mules is because you can get banned in game for posting inappropriatly on the forums. So i see no reason to not restrict it to lvl 30 characters or higher, make them work for the right to post. Instead of letting them run rampant belittling others for their opinions and generally being rude, they wouldn't act like that in game I don't see why they should be allowed to here.

I imagine the moderators will eventually crack down on the type of misconduct on the forums by the players, and hopefully some people lose their lvl 1 crafting mules with 100 craft skills or nice gear they have on their mules they used as their handle for the official forums when their character gets banned in game, it will teach them a lesson in proper etiquette.

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I only disagree with this sentiment because it would prevent new players and old players returning on brand new characters from posting for perfectly valid reasons. Won't somebody please think of the New Players Forum!

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As far as I'm concerned, almost all of the absolute worst posters on these boards post anonymously.

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I don't check the forums as much as I used to but who do you consider the worst posters that are posting anon?