Meh, there's nothing wrong with the 100% PDT build. It's actually quite a lot of work to get to that point, and it's quite situational. Regardless, soloing Hedjedjet is a pretty fruitless exercise when it can drop no upgrade items at all, and I do have to question the wisdom of the individual that was doing it.
As people have said too, BST needed some concessions. Our Empy WS really sucks (even more so now that the crit. cap has gone up), we get pretty shafted when it comes to triggers in Abyss and yeah... It's nice to have some decent toys to play with, even if they do slow our damage right down.
Also, about the time pertinent comment that gets tossed out. It's pretty moot at this stage. If people don't have plenty of stones, they're doing something wrong. People get upset because their plans have to change on the fly when someone else has a mob, so rather than finding something else to do, a lot of people will stand around like slack jawed yokels while they watch you fight. If people do this with BST, chances are they wouldn't hesitate to gank the mob if it went yellow for a second. Because you've somehow offended people to the point they need to act like jerks if you're fighting "their" mob.
100% PDT for PET is plain BS.
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05-12-2011, 05:25 AMblowfin
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05-12-2011, 05:38 AMTsukino_KajiSo you'd rather they die horribly and never be able to get anything accomplished, because their pets are virtualy uncurable? It's not an exploit either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilax
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05-12-2011, 06:33 AMSecondplanet
as smn i love the fact that my avatar can stay alive for more then 5 hits, the fact that they can tank is even better. For a job were all you fruits are in one basket (your avatar) why shouldn't summoner have a way to tank a mob without needed to run and re-summon and repeat over and over. I was solo'ing one of the chariot NM's in altepa and when it was almost dead i had a player stand by me to try to steal it cause it's name goes white after certain conditions are met when the avatar was killed. But the fact i can solo something like that is awesome, so many melee jobs can solo now with atma's and crour buffs so why can't summoners get the same loving?
Also, if you can't stand waiting for them to finish the fight, team up with them and speed it up and let them have the drops, you get the mob killed faster and they get what they wanted (maybe) So if your complaining about how its not fair to take forever or that they go against what abyssea is for then relook at yourself, cause your going against what every Final Fantasy has ever stood for, helping each other out and fighting together for the greater good. -
05-12-2011, 06:38 AMKorpgAlso major mistake for letting DDs have more than 10% crit rate, more than 10% added HP, and give mages more than +5 Refresh, while you are at it.Quote:
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If you want to gimp one set of jobs, gimp them all, gimp them all the way back to 75 levels! -
05-12-2011, 06:46 AMAkujimaDo it.Quote:
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Where PLD was actually a Tank, there was more to do than just Abyssea all day and Vana'diel wasn't the exact replica of Superman's home planet. -
05-12-2011, 06:57 AMCyrandaHow dare they want to have fun playing a job they like instead of doing things they dislike in a video game. What a HORRIBlE attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greatguardian
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05-12-2011, 07:02 AMGreatguardianWhen you're in a group setting, your responsibility lies with the benefit of the group. It's not like one person is sitting around having fun while everyone else slaves away. Everyone pitches in when it's necessary. If playing any job but XXX is plain not fun, then Endgame is not fun and that person should just not do Endgame.Quote:
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Going "Me Me Me" with no regard to what the group needs is a horrible attitude, and I don't have any tolerance for it. -
05-12-2011, 07:07 AMCyrandaExcept for the person who leveled a BST so he or she could actually use it at events, right? What you're describing is not "for the benefit of the team" or "shared sacrifice," but, "I benefit from the BST sacrificing all/most of their fun." That's just stupidly poor leadership. It's just you going "me me me" in the other direction and pretending it's for the team.Quote:
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That you have no tolerance for people wanting to have fun says quite a bit, given that you can probably still have fun if the person comes on BST, while the person who leveled BST and never or rarely gets to use it at events rarely does. -
05-12-2011, 07:15 AMKorpgIf you don't like having a BST in your group, kick that BST.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greatguardian
Then whine when that BST takes the mob you are trying to fight and solo's it himself, and keeps all the spoils for himself. -
05-12-2011, 07:18 AMGreatguardianYou're kidding, right? You read my earlier posts in their entirety, right? There is a difference between "Okay, we need you on WAR to fill out our Reds" and "Pfft Bst sucks u suck get on war lol noob".Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyranda
Refusing to play an important role as part of a coherent group just because you want to do things your own way is an absolute crap attitude. Period.
If you care more about yourself than the group, that's fine. Don't be part of my group. I'm not taking your money and selling your house when I break your pearl. I am removing you from the group that you obviously can't work with. For the record, I let shellmates come on Blu, Pup, Smn, and whatever other crap all the time because, as I mentioned like 3 posts ago, whenever the basics are set I'll straight up tell someone I don't give a crap what they come on.
Pet jobs need to get over their victim complex. It's annoying, and to the rest of the game is a far bigger reason to avoid you than the job itself could ever be.
Edit: @Korpg, That's exactly what I said <_<. Someone whines and bitches about coming Bst when we need XXX, I kick them. I don't whine when people take an hour to kill shit, I just do other things. But I won't say it isn't annoying as all hell. It's nothing short of incompetent to fight something for that long.