Alex Supply and Salvage Cheating- Accounts Not Banned?

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Obtaining 30x more alex a run than intended affects the entire economy.

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In many of the cases, I'm certain, but there are people who just made their own mythics with it. Assuming they wouldn't have made a mythic otherwise (aka not buy from other people), then those players had no effect on the economy

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Originally Posted by Tomiko

Nowhere in my post did I say it was a net positive. I just stated that there were positive aspects to it.

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Positive aspect in your subjective POV.

Generating more alex a run than intended is basically playing the game different from the intended design direction, nothing more and nothing less. If the game is designed to give player 100~200 alex a run, then player should get 100~200. There's nothing "positive" about it other than playing the way different from dev's original intention.

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Originally Posted by Redbeam

In many of the cases, I'm certain, but there are people who just made their own mythics with it. Assuming they wouldn't have made a mythic otherwise (aka not buy from other people), then those players had no effect on the economy

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The fact is, alex(and marrow as well.....) priced dropped at least 1/3 recently thanks to all those exploits.

So yes, it does affect economy.....alot.

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Originally Posted by Afania

If more ppl start to cheat, those who doesn't cheat would end up quitting because....who'd be interested in playing a game full of cheaters.

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The game is already full of cheaters. Using any 3rd party program (hello Windower) is cheating per the SE ToS (Terms of Service). The extent to which you violate the ToS doesn't matter since it's a violation all the same and can result in whatever punishment SE sees fit.

Let's settle this in ballista

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Originally Posted by Afania

The fact is, alex(and marrow as well.....) priced dropped at least 1/3 recently thanks to all those exploits.

So yes, it does affect economy.....alot.

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Marrows tanked in price due to EVERYONE killing ADL now and the demand for Marrows dropping significantly. Aside from a select few Relics, there's no point in upgrading most relics when you can get comparable/better options easier/cheaper. For example: Amano is complete garbage compared to Tsuru. Tsuru is also easy to get if you aren't a terrible player.

I will agree that the Salvage exploit did lower the price of Alexandrite. The price was fine/steady at first, but the price drop was noticeable as more people started doing it.

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Originally Posted by Redbeam

Let's settle this in ballista

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Nothing more to see here, folks.

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Originally Posted by Tomiko

The game is already full of cheaters. Using any 3rd party program (hello Windower) is cheating per the SE ToS (Terms of Service). The extent to which you violate the ToS doesn't matter since it's a violation all the same and can result in whatever punishment SE sees fit.

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Using windower is cheating, I never say it's not. Except it doesn't really affect the economy by 1/3 in a MMO known for focusing on economy.

Since some mules got perma ban for gil trading, I suppose not all cheating worth the same punishment in SE's POV.

It's more about not understand the logic behind 3 days ban when other ToS violation got different punishment. IF every 3rd pt tool user get a 3 days ban, it wouldn't be an issue as well.

It has no standard, period.

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Originally Posted by Tomiko

Marrows tanked in price due to EVERYONE killing ADL now and the demand for Marrows dropping significantly. Aside from a select few Relics, there's no point in upgrading most relics when you can get comparable/better options easier/cheaper. For example: Amano is complete garbage compared to Tsuru. Tsuru is also easy to get if you aren't a terrible player.

I will agree that the Salvage exploit did lower the price of Alexandrite. The price was fine/steady at first, but the price drop was noticeable as more people started doing it.

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I thought marrows tanked in price cuz of dyna exploit.

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Originally Posted by Afania

Since some mules got perma ban for gil trading, I suppose not all cheating worth the same punishment in SE's POV.

It's more about not understand the logic behind 3 days ban when other ToS violation got different punishment. IF every 3rd pt tool user get a 3 days ban, it wouldn't be an issue as well.

It has no standard, period.

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That I can agree with.