The struggle of Supporter Jobs other then BRD

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Originally Posted by Brightshadow

I don't think this should be accomplished by gear because its a downfall of the job.

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This is what I'm most worried about. A few years ago SE would have given traits/job abilities to make up for a jobs shortcomings (look at the abilities they added to BRD for example to let them use AoE songs as single target, or to keep certain songs on themselves that can't be overwritten). Yet recently either through laziness or in an attempt to justify their change over to the ilvl system opposed to raising the level cap they seem to tack on fundamental mechanic changes onto gear. This reduces gear options because you HAVE to use that equipment to compete.

Another idea for corsair:
Unlucky dice: Makes next dice roll targeted on enemy and effect applied is negative.
Allows basically a debuff on the mob and some lesser used rolls might get some play (gallant roll, magus roll, wizard roll, ect)

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Originally Posted by Creelo

An increase in the damage reduction trait Luopans naturally possess will be wonderful; I just hope it's fairly potent.

I still get a little flustered at the thought of them adding more Luopan DT- gear. I just feel like it fosters this idea that Geo should just cast their Luopans and then immediately idle in Refresh/Luopan DT- gear until their Luopan gets destroyed and repeat the process over and over, with minimal Luopan JA use in between casts. Personally I find this problematic because Geo is capable of doing so much more than just that, and that kind of lackluster play style bores me to tears.

It would be neat if Luopan DT- gear could be used when you cast your Luopan but then later taken off, while your Luopan still receives the benefit of the DT- gear. So for example, casting your Luopan with the new bell, Dunna (which possesses Luopan Damage Taken -5%), would mean that the Luopan would continue to have that Damage Taken -5% in effect until the Luopan dies, is Full Circle'd, or its timer goes up even if the Geo takes off that Dunna bell.

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I think ideally, you want to idle in -dt and refresh anyways and only switch out when you're nuking. If SE can give Geo a trait where -dt is shared between luopan and Geo, it would help on inventory a lot.

That's the problem with ilevel SE is attempting to solve everything with equipment, instead of fixing a job flaws with traits, abilities, and spells. GEO needs core job adjustments not.just gear.

I am a solo player who plays DD and Support for the team I think Geomancer's should be allowed to wear Jerkin sets. I did some research in the auction house and all support jobs wear jerkin sets except.. you guest it, Geomancers. Now as a solo player like myself who loves to wield the mighty hammer to deal the physical damage as well as the magical damage. think about it devs Geomancers + Jerkins = Happyness

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Originally Posted by Ultimoore

I am a solo player who plays DD and Support for the team I think Geomancer's should be allowed to wear Jerkin sets. I did some research in the auction house and all support jobs wear jerkin sets except.. you guest it, Geomancers. Now as a solo player like myself who loves to wield the mighty hammer to deal the physical damage as well as the magical damage. think about it devs Geomancers + Jerkins = Happyness

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pure mages were never considered to equip jerkins, whm blm sch smn, geo counts as a pure mage (rdm falls into the category with brd cor blu etc). armor classes are not defined by the type/role the job fullfills, but are predefined.

Very Light armor (clothes) :
SCH WHM BLM GEO SMN (pure mages)

Light Armor (leather):
RDM BLU COR DNC RUN RNG THF BRD PUP (PUP was purely cloth pre lvl cap raise to lvl 99)

heavier light armor (due to eastern equipment and some chainmails):
MNK NIN

light heavy armor:
SAM DRG BST

heavy amor:
PLD WAR DRK

there are ecxeptions, where 1-2 pieces exist that usually dont follow this pattern, but those are really exeptions and usually very very niché armor (and not usefull anymore anyway, holy breastplate for whm for example, or whm haubergeon).

I'm not much for heavier armor on GEO either, simply because it breaks their general mold of mage-focus. Sure, in FF Tactics they ran around wielding swords, axes, and heavier armor, but in most games they wear lighter clothes. Fortunately, thanks to ilvl gear, it's not too hard to hit the haste cap and still maintain good defensive gear. Hagondes +1 has great ilvl stats on it, can be augmented with PDT and MDT, and has plenty of haste on it. Accuracy is where you're going to suffer though, and honestly, a GEO shouldn't be thwacking things with their clubs anyway; just as I feel about WHM or RDM melee, there is time and a place for everything. In the middle of an intense battle where you're just another source of TP feed that's squishy and an MP drain on the backline healers, you're undesired. Now if it's solo, or perhaps something low-man on a lower difficulty? Sure. Swing away. I just feel that it isn't really fitting for the job to melee, even if the capability exists.

Of course, you did mention solo, so let me point you towards things like a combination of the Hagondes+1 set (can be aug'd with PDT, MDT, and has higher stats and defense) and the Espial Set (lots of good haste+ options to cap you off quicker). This will give you good defenses and haste that you need, and you can make up things like multiattack and acc in other slots. Steelflash/Bladeborn Earring, Asperity Necklace, Rajas/Mars or Rajas/K'ayres. You'll have to do some research to find suitable pieces, but if you want to do GEO melee solo, by all means.

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Originally Posted by Damane

pure mages were never considered to equip jerkins, whm blm sch smn, geo counts as a pure mage (rdm falls into the category with brd cor blu etc). armor classes are not defined by the type/role the job fullfills, but are predefined.

Very Light armor (clothes) :
SCH WHM BLM GEO SMN (pure mages)

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Seekers of Adoulin Description of Geomancer:
These arcane spellcasters harness the power of geomancy to strengthen allies, enervate enemies, and provide much-needed support to their parties. They assume many of the same support specialist roles corsairs and bards do, and while they may not pack as much offensive firepower as black mages, they can employ elemental magic with ease. There is no set way to play this game anymore . So as a solo player like my self for continuity it would make more sense for a geomancer to use Jerkins. Thank you

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Originally Posted by Ultimoore

Seekers of Adoulin Description of Geomancer:
These arcane spellcasters harness the power of geomancy to strengthen allies, enervate enemies, and provide much-needed support to their parties. They assume many of the same support specialist roles corsairs and bards do, and while they may not pack as much offensive firepower as black mages, they can employ elemental magic with ease. There is no set way to play this game anymore . So as a solo player like my self for continuity it would make more sense for a geomancer to use Jerkins. Thank you

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they are a support class thats correct, that does NOT mean that they wear leather (light) armor. you could introduce a support class called "kinght defender" (pulled the name out of my ass) and have it classified as heavy armor wearer. The fact is Geos are classified as very light armor (clothes)

Two things; one, why the obsession with jerkins? If you mean light armor in general, that's one thing, but you sorta seem hung up on that one armor type.

Two, Geomancers are primarily a mage class. They focus on their magic through geomancy and elemental magic, with a touch of dark and enfeebling magic. As a mage class, they wear cloth-type armors which benefit their magic stats. Yes, there are some pieces that are beneficial for physical combat, but they are mostly few and far between. Light armor does not fit them compared to the two physical/magical hybrids, RDM and BLU. Granted, BLU got the better end of the light armor deal but lost out on some of the mage armor in return, while RDM is the other way around, but both have access to a reasonable amount of light armor because their job type allows them to do so.