The quest system is one aspect of the game, just because they put a system in where quests act like an in game turtorial in the beginning, they have a journal so you can keep track of your quests, with maps and objectives, this is in so people don't have to swap to community sites to get through quests. The system allows people to rush through, not paying much attention to quests, or allow you read and get caught up in the quests. They have systems that allow different types of players to enjoy the game, what is wrong with that? If you dont' want to use shortcuts like skipping cutscenes and teleports, you don't have to, they give you that choice. If you want to think it's a WoW clone, and don't want to give it a chance, that's fine, it's your choice, have fun grinding delve for months on end, waiting for devs to fill a promise that they will fix the broken content they put in, while the rest of us can actually go on and enjoy a game that let's us play the way we want to play.
FFXIV A Realm Reborn
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06-25-2013, 02:39 PMVizzer
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06-25-2013, 03:55 PMJaall
There is no chance XIV will appeal to everyone, but the majority seem to love it. There are very very little hate posts on the beta forums which I find amazing, because it's a forum! Also the number of "I LOVE THIS GAME!!" threads is insane, and this is only beta! It isn't even close to final release and there's little content compared to what there will be at release yet a lot of people could play just the beta for months and be happy.
They really have created a masterpiece with ARR, and no it wont be for everyone, but in terms of overall satisfaction I think it hits the mark completely and obviously so do a lot of other people. XIV will definitely be a success, and there is nothing any one person can do about it so if you're desperately hanging onto the hope that XIV will fail so XI gets more love, it isn't gonna happen anymore. It had a bad start but they really have redesigned the whole game and it doesn't even seem like the same game compared to how it started. -
06-25-2013, 03:59 PMBST
The questing system may be generic but it works and gets you going from the get go (FFXIV).
This game (FFXI) however, still uses pointless and unhelpful quest / mission descriptions in 2013. I've always hated how the quest and mission dialogue is so vague that one has to look at a 3rd-party website to check what to do next.
This is true, they don't even need to moderate it because the haters get hated on!:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaall
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06-25-2013, 04:51 PMsc4500
What is funny is when people say ff14 is to much like WoW now. They tried to reinvent the wheel and we seen the disaster that turn into for ff14 1.0. I would Rather have a strong playable game with a great storyline and a game that is fun. That ff14 is now offering. Down the road ff14 can easily make it harder and had more game play elements now. When the time comes.
I think there a strong group of players that would love for ff14 to fail, so that all there hard work over the years on ff11. Have not felt wasted, and change is a hard thing for those of us that been on ff11 for the last 10 + yrs or it just time to move on. Yet if they do ff11 right they can hold the niche hardcore market. Just there going to need people from ff14 from time to time play ff11. Scary part for some of the haters are there slowing seeing there friends and other people moving over to ff14 and all the help and worked that they helped those friends and people with.
Plus i feel that ff14 is going to bring in all there final fantasy fans to ff14 now. In doing so. You got to look at it with a open mind that many of them never touched a mmo before. With many of there fans over the age of 25+ and got jobs and kids and stuff they want to accomplish some stuff in the short hrs they got time to play. With many of those fans who tryed ff11 for short periods of time and they did not like ff11. -
06-25-2013, 04:53 PMDaemon
Well FF11 cannot hang on forever if its designed to stay on the limitations of PS2. Once PS4 is released PS2 will fade away as did the PS1. Then SE will either have to drop 11 or do an overhaul moving the game over to PS3/4 or drop the game off consoles entirely and leave it strictly on PC. To recode the entire game and every single expansion sounds like making a brand new game. Reason why FF7 was never remade. Most likely why FF14 was receiving so much attention because its designed to play on a higher console than PS2.
Technology is changing so fast. IBM is already working on hologram phones like you saw back in the day in movies such as Star Wars. They said it could be ready in about a decade.
Did you see the resurrection of 2Pac at Coachella?
10 years from now maybe Mario will be sitting next to you at the dinner table D: you may have to save those mash potatoes for King Koopa. -
06-25-2013, 06:04 PMBST
How could they possibly get rid of PS2 limitations though. And then, what about Xbox360.
Could they ever get rid of limitations? Would it be worth it. -
06-25-2013, 06:11 PMsc4500Yea , but all they need to do is just improve the xbox 360 version and PC version , and they could make it look great, but there still alot of japanese players that play on the ps2 version from what were told. Heard many japanese players do not got a PC and we know the xbox 360 failed bad there. We seen what ff14 does on the ps3 and xbox360 is pretty much the same system and 360 version was just a emulated version of ff11 .The ps2 game with hd added to it. Over time they were able to improve the xbox version from locking up and gave some of the stuff the pc got. Yet at this time and age I feel there like why put in the work to make it look amazing , They should have did it back in the Heyday of Aby. If there were going to improve the graphics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daemon
People still listen to LP records. Sometimes classic stuff is classic though. Even when techno blows right past it. Heck the other weekend I went to a party and we pulled out the SNES and played some Killer instincts and we all had a blast lol. Just because we were all mad at microsoft ways for the xbox 1 at the time. -
06-25-2013, 06:20 PMSqEnisfilledwithgeniusesIt makes me sad when the beta shuts down for the week on Sunday... Means I have to go back to FFXI until Friday. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaall
Anyways, the game is truly amazing. I've played multiple F2P and P2P MMOs over the years, and I have to say XIV is one of the most impressive ones I've played.
Also, I really don't quite get why people bash so hard on WoW. I've played that before as well. It's a fun game for what it is. I used to alternate between FFXI and WoW just so I could get my PvP fix, which oh yeah, XIV will have.
All in all....
Amazing game. Will buy. Will quit FFXI. Fun times ahead. -
06-25-2013, 08:23 PMsc4500What really crazy for ff14 is the benchmarks people been doing on there high end CPU's. There getting 60fps to 70fps on high settings and maxed settings been around 55-65 fps. The PS3 version insanse runs a solid 30 ish fps. I know a few friends with insane cpu able to get it to 83fps to 91 fps. Those pc guys are like it best looking game they ever seen on the pc graphic wise. Haters that got there set up on the pc there way unable to get it there, are like I spent my money into my pc my way and then are like if it not good enough for me , then it not good enough for anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by SqEnisfilledwithgeniuses
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06-26-2013, 12:21 AMVilFrom what Yoshida (XIV producer) said, and from what was also said on XV's announcement, SE is starting to build their games on DirectX 11, which in their words, makes it easier to port to different formats than say, building a game on the ps3 and porting over to Xbox.Quote:
Originally Posted by BST
This facilitates porting to multiple consoles and formats, and keep up with the current technology. This is how they'll be able to put out a PS4 version of XIV in just a year or so.
I really wish they could do the same for XI, but recoding 11 years worth of game content sounds like a massive behemoth. Ideally, it'd be nice, but most likely not feasible ><